Nazi Roots of the Arab Palestinian Movement

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[ame="http://www.amazon.com/The-Nazi-Connection-Islamic-Terrorism/dp/1935071033/ref=pd_sim_b_3?ie=UTF8&refRID=1E53FPZCGC171VJ3W5KH"]The Nazi Connection to Islamic Terrorism: Adolf Hitler and Haj Amin Al-Husseini [Paperback][/ame]

Release date: August 10, 2010
This is the remarkable story of Haj Amin al-Husseini who was, in many ways, as big a Nazi villain as Hitler himself. To understand his influence on the Middle East is to understand the ongoing genocidal program against the Jews of Israel. Al-Husseini was a bridge figure in terms of transporting the Nazi genocide in Europe into the post-war Middle East. As the leader of Arab Palestine during the British Mandate period, al-Husseini introduced violence against moderate Arabs as well as against Jews. Al-Husseini met with Adolf Eichmann in Palestine in 1937 and subsequently went on the Nazi payroll as a Nazi agent. Al-Husseini played a pivotal behind-the-scenes role in instigating a pro-Nazi coup in Iraq in 1941 as he urged Nazis and pro-Nazi governments in Europe to transport Jews to death camps, trained pro-Nazi Bosnian brigades, and funneled Nazi loot into pro-war Arab countries.
 
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Dr. Mallmann is the Director of the Research Center, University of Ludwigsburg and Professor of History at the University of Stuttgart. He is the author of several important studies on the Holocaust. Dr. Martin Cüppers is Scientific Assistant at the Research Center in Ludwigsburg and author of Wegbereiter der Shoa--The Precursor of the Holocaust (2005).

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What is the value of a history book? Its worth is contained within its ability to clarify the differing perspectives of the parties involved in its pages. It should not only state real facts but also thoughtfully analyze and synthesize them to present a good overall picture of what happened, why it happened and, how it affects us today.

Klaus Michael Mallmann's and Martin Cupper's NAZI PALESTINE: THE PLANS FOR THE EXTERMINATION OF THE JEWS IN PALESTINE attempts to bring into focus and clarify the genuine facts about the Jewish-Arab (and Moslem) dispute and its roots within all of the Middle-Eastern and some European countries, not just Israel/Palestine. Using previously available and recently uncovered documents from German, Israeli, British, American and Arab sources the writers put together a picture of what has happened in the region known as the Middle East, why it has happened, and how and why it affects us today in the formation of a mostly illiberal, anti-democratic and irrational Middle East. There is indeed a strange nexus between the interests of "National Socialism" aka Nazism and, Arab Nationalism as well as Islamic extremism in anti-Western and anti-Jewish (anti-Semitic) activities.

How the seemingly incompatible interests of the Nazis and the dominant forces of Arab nationalism and Islamic radicalism of the 1930's and 40's came together in a dangerous alliance and mixture against the Allies and the Jews is written of in this book. Such an alignment nearly turned that region of the world over to the Nazis and could have lead to the defeat of Great Britain and her allies, as well as the murder of the Jewish communities within Israel, and all of the nearby lands. Read more ›
 
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Unfortunate, but true. He seemingly acted according to the old principle "the enemy of my enemies is my friend." Of course he wasn't terribly sophisticated and should probably be overlooked because very few people knew what was actually going on in Germany at that time, and he most certainly didn't. Even the U.S., who knew more, did little to help the victims of the Holocaust.

But the Grand Mufti is not at all representative of, or the "roots" of, Palestinian nationalism.
 
Unfortunate, but true. He seemingly acted according to the old principle "the enemy of my enemies is my friend." Of course he wasn't terribly sophisticated and should probably be overlooked because very few people knew what was actually going on in Germany at that time, and he most certainly didn't. Even the U.S., who knew more, did little to help the victims of the Holocaust.

But the Grand Mufti is not at all representative of, or the "roots" of, Palestinian nationalism.
The Mufti was indirectly responsible for the deaths of at least 400,000 Jews, by insisting that the Jews be sent to the gas chambers instead of permitting them to escape. He was both the political and spiritual leader of the Arabs, and the uncle and metro to Yasser Arafat, the actual founder of the Palestinian movement, who managed to merge Nazism with Arab nationalism and the Islamic belief system and export it to the entire Arab / Muslim world.

So yes, although the Nazis were defeated in Germany and Europe, the Palestinian national movement is the bastard child of Nazi ideology that was reborn and lives on in the the Muslim world.
 
The Mufti was indirectly responsible for the deaths of at least 400,000 Jews, by insisting that the Jews be sent to the gas chambers instead of permitting them to escape.
He was no more responsible than your great, great grandmother, Roudy, no one knew.
He was both the political and spiritual leader of the Arabs, and the uncle and metro to Yasser Arafat, the actual founder of the Palestinian movement, who managed to merge Nazism with Arab nationalism and the Islamic belief system and export it to the entire Arab / Muslim world.
I don't think so. He was looking for help with the problems in Palestine. I think it is worthwhile to note that it DOES make a difference from where the help comes! Goods ends do not justify evil means.
He didn't have any advisors to research and explain the news. He was very unsophisticated politically, and in fact I have never heard a single Arab mention him, to show how little influence he had or has in the Middle East. He represented one small segment in the 1930s, and certainly no one today.
So yes, although the Nazis were defeated in Germany and Europe, the Palestinian national movement is the bastard child of Nazi ideology that was reborn and lives on in the the Muslim world.
No, in general Palestinian sentiment is fairly leftist, even the religious segments, and like I said, the Palestinians of today are not familiar with the Grand Mufti of decades past.
I can definitely find even Jews of the era who identified more strongly with Hitler than the Grand Mufti. The point is, the public just didn't know.
 
The Mufti was indirectly responsible for the deaths of at least 400,000 Jews, by insisting that the Jews be sent to the gas chambers instead of permitting them to escape.
He was no more responsible than your great, great grandmother, Roudy, no one knew.
He was both the political and spiritual leader of the Arabs, and the uncle and metro to Yasser Arafat, the actual founder of the Palestinian movement, who managed to merge Nazism with Arab nationalism and the Islamic belief system and export it to the entire Arab / Muslim world.
I don't think so. He was looking for help with the problems in Palestine. I think it is worthwhile to note that it DOES make a difference from where the help comes! Goods ends do not justify evil means.
He didn't have any advisors to research and explain the news. He was very unsophisticated politically, and in fact I have never heard a single Arab mention him, to show how little influence he had or has in the Middle East. He represented one small segment in the 1930s, and certainly no one today.
So yes, although the Nazis were defeated in Germany and Europe, the Palestinian national movement is the bastard child of Nazi ideology that was reborn and lives on in the the Muslim world.
No, in general Palestinian sentiment is fairly leftist, even the religious segments, and like I said, the Palestinians of today are not familiar with the Grand Mufti of decades past.
I can definitely find even Jews of the era who identified more strongly with Hitler than the Grand Mufti. The point is, the public just didn't know.
Really now? This islamic cleric / Arab Leader who was unsophisticated politically, met with Hitler and Himmler, toured the concentration camps, and wrote letters to them begging them to send the Jews to their deaths, mobilized a Muslim army who fought for the Nazis, calling them "Islam's Finest", incited Arabs to murder and terrorize Jews, and then passed on everything he knew to his nephew and prodigy Yasser Arafat, and managed to somehow bring nazi ideology into every Arab and Muslim country?

Nah, you're just a terrorist apologist, false propagandist sock.

Amin Al Husseini: Nazi Father of Jihad, Al Qaeda, Arafat, Saddam Hussein and the Muslim Brotherhood - Tell The Children The Truth - Homepage
 
The Mufti was indirectly responsible for the deaths of at least 400,000 Jews, by insisting that the Jews be sent to the gas chambers instead of permitting them to escape.
He was no more responsible than your great, great grandmother, Roudy, no one knew.
He was both the political and spiritual leader of the Arabs, and the uncle and metro to Yasser Arafat, the actual founder of the Palestinian movement, who managed to merge Nazism with Arab nationalism and the Islamic belief system and export it to the entire Arab / Muslim world.
I don't think so. He was looking for help with the problems in Palestine. I think it is worthwhile to note that it DOES make a difference from where the help comes! Goods ends do not justify evil means.
He didn't have any advisors to research and explain the news. He was very unsophisticated politically, and in fact I have never heard a single Arab mention him, to show how little influence he had or has in the Middle East. He represented one small segment in the 1930s, and certainly no one today.
So yes, although the Nazis were defeated in Germany and Europe, the Palestinian national movement is the bastard child of Nazi ideology that was reborn and lives on in the the Muslim world.
No, in general Palestinian sentiment is fairly leftist, even the religious segments, and like I said, the Palestinians of today are not familiar with the Grand Mufti of decades past.
I can definitely find even Jews of the era who identified more strongly with Hitler than the Grand Mufti. The point is, the public just didn't know.

All I can say is wow. :badgrin:

Are you here to entertain us?
 
I'm going to try. And if you are sincere I can at least give you a great deal to think about. If you're the type of person who is simply venting free floating hatred on the Palestinians you'll remain on your current path, if not maybe in the quiet of your own mind you will realize the truth and then peace will become possible.
 
I'm going to try. And if you are sincere I can at least give you a great deal to think about. If you're the type of person who is simply venting free floating hatred on the Palestinians you'll remain on your current path, if not maybe in the quiet of your own mind you will realize the truth and then peace will become possible.

Oh, yes, with your views on the Mufti you certainly have given us something to think about. :lol:
 
I'm going to try. And if you are sincere I can at least give you a great deal to think about. If you're the type of person who is simply venting free floating hatred on the Palestinians you'll remain on your current path, if not maybe in the quiet of your own mind you will realize the truth and then peace will become possible.

Oh, yes, with your views on the Mufti you certainly have given us something to think about. :lol:

It's sad that the people on your side are so afraid that you will never give an inch.

This is why I started the thread about what have the Zionists done. Your inability to see both sides and unwillingness to be introspective bespeaks of a true weakness. It's why the name calling comes out right away.
 
I'm going to try. And if you are sincere I can at least give you a great deal to think about. If you're the type of person who is simply venting free floating hatred on the Palestinians you'll remain on your current path, if not maybe in the quiet of your own mind you will realize the truth and then peace will become possible.

Oh, yes, with your views on the Mufti you certainly have given us something to think about. :lol:

It's sad that the people on your side are so afraid that you will never give an inch.

This is why I started the thread about what have the Zionists done. Your inability to see both sides and unwillingness to be introspective bespeaks of a true weakness. It's why the name calling comes out right away.

So you agree with amity's views on the Mufti too then.

A word of advice. If you aren't too clued up on the Mufti, probably best not to comment until you have read the book or seen the videos above. Because making comments like amity has done you will then see why they are laughable. It is one thing to disagree on a topic but quite another to be so out of touch with reality when it is staring you in the face.
 
Look, admittedly he was an idiot. I never heard he toured extermination camps and I seriously doubt that. I have never heard he was related to Arafat and I am not sure that is relevant. All sorts of people are related Arafat and yet don't necessarily share his views. I have never heard a single Palestinian mention the mufti and maybe I should ask and get back to you!! OK? Gimme coupla days.
 
I'm going to try. And if you are sincere I can at least give you a great deal to think about. If you're the type of person who is simply venting free floating hatred on the Palestinians you'll remain on your current path, if not maybe in the quiet of your own mind you will realize the truth and then peace will become possible.
Why don't you first educate yourself with the actual facts, before spouting off your propaganda? The Grandfather of the Arab Nationalist / Palestinian movement, Yasser Arafat's uncle, was a radical Islamist cleric, and certified as a Nazi by the US dept. Of State and the Allied countries. Here are the historical facts from the website I posted.

-Amin Al-Husseini is appointed Head of Supreme Muslim Council (1922-1937) [vi] . He is hugely disappointed by the end of the Ottoman Empire under Ataturk. Husseini becomes fanaticized by the idea that he must restore the lost Islamic Empire. He vows to fight all Muslim seculars.

-1929 Hebron Massacre. Amin Al-Husseini organizes more riots in Palestine. He spreads false rumors to further turn the local Muslims against the Jews. Random murdering of Hebron Jews begins. Hebron Jewish community was over 2,000 years old.

-1936 Palestine riots. Amin Al-Husseini is main organizer of riots. [xvii] He organizes suicide squads against the local authorities. Applies Nazi methodology of “systematic extermination” of any Arab suspected of less than total loyalty to Pan-Islamic vision of Muslim Brotherhood. Any “non-Islamic” element is a threat to his Pan-Islamic vision.

Many Muslim and Christian Palestinian intellectual leaders and clerics assassinated for protesting Husseini’s Islamic terror.

1936-1938. Murdered by Husseini’s men: Sheikh Daoud Ansari ( Imam of Al Aqsa Mosque), Sheikh Ali Nur el Khattib (Al Aqsa Mosque), Sheikh Nusbi Abdal Rahim (Council of Muslim Religious Court), Sheikh Abdul el Badoui (Acre, Palestine), Sheikh El Namouri (Hebron), Nasr El Din Nassr (Mayor of Hebron). Between Feb. 1937 and Nov 1938, Eleven (11) Mukhtars (community leaders) and their entire families slain by Amin al Husseini’s men.

-1941 Amin Al-Husseini instigates a pro-nazi coup in Baghdad, Iraq. Kharaillah Tulfah is his right-hand man. Tulfah is Saddam Hussein’s mentor and uncle. Germany sends weapons and aircrafts to Husseini. Coup fails.Amin Al Husseini in Bagdad with Rashid Al-Qailani, Leader of Pro-Nazi Iraqi Coup.

-1941 Amin Al-Husseini in Berlin meets [xxiii] with Adolf Hitler [xxiv] and is active in the decision to exterminate all Jews through the infamous Final Solution [xxv] . Hitler was reportedly content with deporting the Jews out of Europe to Palestine. Husseini perceived this as a threat to his stronghold in Palestine and pushed successfully for the extermination of the European Jews.

-1943 Amin Al Husseini creates the Hanzar Division of Nazi Muslim Soldiers in Bosnia, which he calls ‘the cream of Islam’. It becomes the largest division of the Third Reich Army (26,000 men) and participates actively in the genocide of Serbian and Jewish populations. ‘Hanzar’ was the name given to the dagger worn by officers under the Turkish Ottoman Empire. [xxx] Muslim soldiers pledge allegiance to Nazi regime in official statement prepared by Heinrich Himmler, head of SS Nazi troops.

- 1943 Amin Al-Husseini is made Prime Minister of Pan-Arab Government by Nazi regime. His headquarters are in Berlin. He plans construction of concentration camp [xxxii] in Nablus (Palestine) to implement the “final solution” in Palestine to exterminate the Jews there, as an extension of Hitler’s plan. Mufti becomes close friend of Heinrich Himmler, Head of SS (Nazi Officers). Amin Al-Husseini is given a private tour of Aushwitz death camp by Himmler[xxxiii], where he insists on seeing first-hand the murder of Europe’s Jews.

-1944 March 1, 1944. Amin Al-Husseini makes speech from Berlin addressing Muslim SS Nazi troops: “Kill the Jews wherever you find them. This pleases God, History and Religion. This saves your honor. God is with you.” [xxxvi]


-1946 Amin Al-Husseini is appointed leader of Muslim Brotherhood in Jerusalem [xxxviii] . Wahhabi Islam becomes the perfect vector for Husseini’s policy of ethnic cleansing. He uses recently acquired Nazi methodology to implement his vision of an Arab World free of Jews (Juden-Rei in German). [xxxix]

-1946 Wanted for Crimes Against Humanity. Yugoslavia requests extradition from Egypt of Amin Al-Husseini for War Crimes [xl] , and Crimes against Humanity. Egyptian government refuses to release him [xli] .

-1946 Yasser Arafat’s Teacher and Uncle: Amin Al-Husseini. Egyptian-born Yasser Arafat [xlii] meets Amin Al-Husseini at age 17 and starts to work for him. Amin Al-Husseini, uncle of Arafat, whose real name is Mohammed Abder Rauf Arafat Al-Kudwa Al-Husseini. Arafat reportedly changed his name intentionally to disguise his connection to Amin al-Husseini.

-1946 Arafat Holy Struggler. Amin Al-Husseini places Yasser Arafat in charge of arms procurement and shipment for the Mufti’s Irregular Forces: “The Holy Strugglers”.

-1962 Amin Al-Husseini becomes president of World Islamic Congress, which he founded [xlviii] . The Islamic Fundamentalists implement plan of making Arab lands Judenrei (free of Jews), as Hitler did in Europe. All Jewish communities of North Africa and Middle East are persecuted.

Hundreds of thousands of Arab Jews, whose presence in Arab countries predates Islam by a thousand years, are killed or forced to leave their homelands.

www.tellthechildrenthetruth.com
 
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Look, admittedly he was an idiot. I never heard he toured extermination camps and I seriously doubt that. I have never heard he was related to Arafat and I am not sure that is relevant. All sorts of people are related Arafat and yet don't necessarily share his views. I have never heard a single Palestinian mention the mufti and maybe I should ask and get back to you!! OK? Gimme coupla days.

Simple solution. View the program above, which is in three parts. It will educate you. It is unwise to make statements on something so serious that you haven't any knowledge of. View the videos above, or read the book Roudy recommended, then come back to us with your comments.
 
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I'm going to try. And if you are sincere I can at least give you a great deal to think about. If you're the type of person who is simply venting free floating hatred on the Palestinians you'll remain on your current path, if not maybe in the quiet of your own mind you will realize the truth and then peace will become possible.

Oh, yes, with your views on the Mufti you certainly have given us something to think about. :lol:

It's sad that the people on your side are so afraid that you will never give an inch.

This is why I started the thread about what have the Zionists done. Your inability to see both sides and unwillingness to be introspective bespeaks of a true weakness. It's why the name calling comes out right away.
What name calling is that? This thread is about the Nazi roots of the Palestinian movement, who's founder and grandfather was a certified Nazi and Hitler's right hand man in the Middle East.

Sounds like someone is upset at the truth being told.
 
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Look, admittedly he was an idiot. I never heard he toured extermination camps and I seriously doubt that. I have never heard he was related to Arafat and I am not sure that is relevant. All sorts of people are related Arafat and yet don't necessarily share his views. I have never heard a single Palestinian mention the mufti and maybe I should ask and get back to you!! OK? Gimme coupla days.

For someone who claims to know oh-so-much, you appear to be extremely ill-informed.

Interview with Wolfgang G. Schwanitz, re Nazis, Islamists and the Making of the Modern Middle East
 
Look, admittedly he was an idiot. I never heard he toured extermination camps and I seriously doubt that. I have never heard he was related to Arafat and I am not sure that is relevant. All sorts of people are related Arafat and yet don't necessarily share his views. I have never heard a single Palestinian mention the mufti and maybe I should ask and get back to you!! OK? Gimme coupla days.

For someone who claims to know oh-so-much, you appear to be extremely ill-informed.

Interview with Wolfgang G. Schwanitz, re Nazis, Islamists and the Making of the Modern Middle East
The problem is they always come out with their usual bullshit, and then when the truth and facts are introduced, they slither away.
 
C'mon, grand mufti is a pretty peripheral persona, almost totally ineffectual during his life and irrelevant now. I did know a bit about him, but had totally forgotten he ever existed.

But I am willing to concede partial credit to the original poster's point. What a jerk that Grand Mufti guy was! I asked around, did some research. I think the most detailed and well-researched online article is on Wikipedia:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohammad_Amin_al-Husayni

Please note this article has been hammered out by a combined panel of Zionist and Palestinian scholars and other perspectives. And the likes of us should leave it alone until we know more. Wikipedia is not a venue for the time and energy wasting vitriol and gratuitous bashing that sometimes seems to hold sway on this forum. I love the crowd sourcing concept of Wikipedia, wonderful way to arrive at "the truth" such as human intellect can know it. The nature of the process levels the playing field wonderfully.

But I digress. The Grand Mufti was worse than a fool, he was a Nazi. Hannah Arendt did not believe he was aware of the final solution. I can't deny it; I now do believe he was fully aware by war's end. He also met considerable opposition from within the Palestinian community, which he rebuffed with threats of violence. He was enthralled by Hitler's ability to move a mob ... er, crowd, and that is what he was trying to emulate, with some limited success. Again it comes down to a lack of sophistication.

That said, please also note that he has been marginalized and discredited by Palestinians ever since, saving Israel the trouble of having to do it. The PLO's rising credibility ensured that he was never able to influence anyone again. I was amazed to realize that on my first couple of trips to Beirut, I might have passed the good ol' GM in the streets! Yikes! He was still alive until 1974.
"According to Zvi Elpeleg, almost all trace of his memory thereafter vanished from Palestinian awareness, and Palestinians have raised no monument to his memory, or written books commemorating his deeds."
And that was why I stood where I stood when this subject was first raised. Since there were also Jewish Nazis (yes!) can we leave these dead fools to rest now and move on? They're slimy and not terribly interesting.
 
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