National Healthcare in Britain: They just canceled 50,000 surgeries...

at this rate their health program will rate right there with cuba

another socialist utopia the leftards love so much

We didn't make the top 16.

The 16 countries with the world's best healthcare systems

Yes....they make up the categories and they favor socialist countries...then they fail to add in the cost of maintaining an effective millitary, which we pay for so they can afford their social welfare states...

And......all of those countries, their socialized medical systems are running out of money...
Socialism is when YOUR vote concerns the money in MY wallet. Capitalism is when MY vote concerns the money in MY wallet.

So it's OK to not pay your own way?
 
at this rate their health program will rate right there with cuba

another socialist utopia the leftards love so much

We didn't make the top 16.

The 16 countries with the world's best healthcare systems

Yes....they make up the categories and they favor socialist countries...then they fail to add in the cost of maintaining an effective millitary, which we pay for so they can afford their social welfare states...

And......all of those countries, their socialized medical systems are running out of money...

How is life expectancy a 'made up' category?


There is the truth, for one...

The Nordic Democratic-Socialist Myth

In 1960, well before large welfare states had been created in Nordic countries, Swedes lived 3.2 years longer than Americans, while Norwegians lived 3.8 years longer and Danes 2.4 years longer. Today, after the Nordic countries have introduced universal health care, the difference has shrunk to 2.9 years in Sweden, 2.6 years in Norway, and 1.5 years in Denmark. The differences in life span have actually shrunk as Nordic countries moved from a small public sector to a democratic-socialist model with universal health coverage. Moreover, the longest average life spans among Nordic peoples are found in Iceland — the small Nordic cousin that has the most distinctly Nordic culture, but also the most limited welfare system.

Read more at: The Nordic Democratic-Socialist Myth
 
at this rate their health program will rate right there with cuba

another socialist utopia the leftards love so much

We didn't make the top 16.

The 16 countries with the world's best healthcare systems

Yes....they make up the categories and they favor socialist countries...then they fail to add in the cost of maintaining an effective millitary, which we pay for so they can afford their social welfare states...

And......all of those countries, their socialized medical systems are running out of money...

How is life expectancy a 'made up' category?
Last time I checked the worldwide death rate for the human race was holding steady at 100%
 
Yep.....the problem with socialized medicine...you run out of money......and then you have to stop giving even crap care to your people...and the really funny part....you have taxed those people at about 60% on their incomes to pay for healthcare you will no longer give them.....

Socialized medicine...when you want to pay for healthcare, but don't want actual medical treatment....

Great moments in single payer: Britain cancels 50,000 surgeries - Hot Air

The UK’s vaunted single-payer system has collapsed into “third world” conditions, thanks to a lack of resources that has ambulances unable to pick up patients, who would find difficulty in getting an empty bed at a hospital. The order came down this week from on high to cancel as many as 50,000 scheduled surgeries over the next several weeks until the National Health Service can figure out how to climb out of the hole (via Guy Benson):

SEE ALSO: Iran protests dying down?

Every hospital in the country has been ordered to cancel all non-urgent surgery until at least February in an unprecedented step by NHS officials.

The instructions on Tuesday night – which will see result in around 50,000 operations being axed – followed claims by senior doctors that patients were being treated in “third world” conditions, as hospital chief executives warned of the worst winter crisis for three decades.

Hospitals are reporting growing chaos, with a spike in winter flu leaving frail patients facing 12-hour waits, and some units running out of corridor space.

It’s not just the hospitals, either. The NHS will close down outpatient clinics as well, leaving Britons with very few options for healthcare at the beginning of 2018:
This is all because the Tories, the second worst party in the modern world, keep cutting the funding. The UK spends about 8% of GDP on Healthcare while we're over 17% and most countries spend 10 to 12%. And all of them have better outcomes than we do.






No, dumbass, it's because it is unaffordable. That is the reality of state run health care. Because of the inequities built into the system, and the inherent inefficient nature of government, it can never work while man is man.
 
at this rate their health program will rate right there with cuba

another socialist utopia the leftards love so much

We didn't make the top 16.

The 16 countries with the world's best healthcare systems

Yes....they make up the categories and they favor socialist countries...then they fail to add in the cost of maintaining an effective millitary, which we pay for so they can afford their social welfare states...

And......all of those countries, their socialized medical systems are running out of money...

How is life expectancy a 'made up' category?


There is the truth, for one...

The Nordic Democratic-Socialist Myth

In 1960, well before large welfare states had been created in Nordic countries, Swedes lived 3.2 years longer than Americans, while Norwegians lived 3.8 years longer and Danes 2.4 years longer. Today, after the Nordic countries have introduced universal health care, the difference has shrunk to 2.9 years in Sweden, 2.6 years in Norway, and 1.5 years in Denmark. The differences in life span have actually shrunk as Nordic countries moved from a small public sector to a democratic-socialist model with universal health coverage. Moreover, the longest average life spans among Nordic peoples are found in Iceland — the small Nordic cousin that has the most distinctly Nordic culture, but also the most limited welfare system.

Read more at: The Nordic Democratic-Socialist Myth

The National Review is against anything that doesn't promote profit in a capitalist market.

The article also fails to conclude as to the reason there is a five to nine month reason in average life expectancy.
 
You can bet your ass that the Royal Family (and rock stars) would have a surgeon at their side in a heart beat. The point is that the British elite get all the health care they need while the rabble scrambles and suffers. Not much different from King George two hundred years ago..

The wealthy no matter what country receive better healthcare.





And here in the USA we can have access to the best care too. Confine us to a NHS style of healthcare and we will no longer have access to that care. There will be a concierge doctor corps for the wealthy, and then there will be the rest of humanity waiting months and months for critical surgeries and the death rate will skyrocket. The system is already failing in Canada, so bad that those who can afford it come here to the USA for their treatment. And they have one tenth the population that we do.

You clowns remind me of the German high command at the beginning of the war in the east when they looked at a map and said to themselves, "yeah, Astrakhan ain't too far!"..
 
at this rate their health program will rate right there with cuba

another socialist utopia the leftards love so much

We didn't make the top 16.

The 16 countries with the world's best healthcare systems

Yes....they make up the categories and they favor socialist countries...then they fail to add in the cost of maintaining an effective millitary, which we pay for so they can afford their social welfare states...

And......all of those countries, their socialized medical systems are running out of money...

How is life expectancy a 'made up' category?


There is the truth, for one...

The Nordic Democratic-Socialist Myth

In 1960, well before large welfare states had been created in Nordic countries, Swedes lived 3.2 years longer than Americans, while Norwegians lived 3.8 years longer and Danes 2.4 years longer. Today, after the Nordic countries have introduced universal health care, the difference has shrunk to 2.9 years in Sweden, 2.6 years in Norway, and 1.5 years in Denmark. The differences in life span have actually shrunk as Nordic countries moved from a small public sector to a democratic-socialist model with universal health coverage. Moreover, the longest average life spans among Nordic peoples are found in Iceland — the small Nordic cousin that has the most distinctly Nordic culture, but also the most limited welfare system.

Read more at: The Nordic Democratic-Socialist Myth

The National Review is against anything that doesn't promote profit in a capitalist market.

The article also fails to conclude as to the reason there is a five to nine month reason in average life expectancy.


When I find the info I am looking for I will post it.....the morons over seas don't compute child death the way we do.....and we drive more cars than they do which lowers our life expectancy...a lot.....When I find it you will see it...doofus...
 
at this rate their health program will rate right there with cuba

another socialist utopia the leftards love so much

We didn't make the top 16.

The 16 countries with the world's best healthcare systems

Yes....they make up the categories and they favor socialist countries...then they fail to add in the cost of maintaining an effective millitary, which we pay for so they can afford their social welfare states...

And......all of those countries, their socialized medical systems are running out of money...

How is life expectancy a 'made up' category?


There is the truth, for one...

The Nordic Democratic-Socialist Myth

In 1960, well before large welfare states had been created in Nordic countries, Swedes lived 3.2 years longer than Americans, while Norwegians lived 3.8 years longer and Danes 2.4 years longer. Today, after the Nordic countries have introduced universal health care, the difference has shrunk to 2.9 years in Sweden, 2.6 years in Norway, and 1.5 years in Denmark. The differences in life span have actually shrunk as Nordic countries moved from a small public sector to a democratic-socialist model with universal health coverage. Moreover, the longest average life spans among Nordic peoples are found in Iceland — the small Nordic cousin that has the most distinctly Nordic culture, but also the most limited welfare system.

Read more at: The Nordic Democratic-Socialist Myth

The National Review is against anything that doesn't promote profit in a capitalist market.

The article also fails to conclude as to the reason there is a five to nine month reason in average life expectancy.


Infant mortality rate lies from the socialists...moron...

Infant Mortality: A Deceptive Statistic

Yet it’s not that simple. Infant and neonatal mortality rates are complex, multifactorial end-points that oversimplify heterogeneous inputs, many of which have no relation to health care at all.

Moreover, these statistics gleaned from the widely varied countries of the world are plagued by inconsistencies, problematic definitions, and gross inaccuracies, all of which disadvantage the ranking of the U.S., where accuracy is paramount.

Even though Oestergaard’s WHO report lists several “challenges and limitations” in comparing neonatal mortality rates, sensationalized headlines continue to rage about the supposedly poor showing of the United States.

The following are a few of the difficulties:

---Underreporting and unreliability of infant-mortality data from other countries undermine any comparisons with the United States. In a 2008 study, Joy Lawn estimated that a full three-fourths of the world’s neonatal deaths are counted only through highly unreliable five-yearly retrospective household surveys, instead of being reported at the time by hospitals and health-care professionals, as in the United States.


--Moreover, the most premature babies — those with the highest likelihood of dying — are the least likely to be recorded in infant and neonatal mortality statistics in other countries.

--Compounding that difficulty, in other countries the underreporting is greatest for deaths that occur very soon after birth. Since the earliest deaths make up 75 percent of all neonatal deaths, underreporting by other countries — often misclassifying what were really live births as fetal demise (stillbirths) — would falsely exclude most neonatal deaths.

Any assumption that the practice of underreporting is confined to less-developed nations is incorrect.

In fact, a number of published peer-reviewed studies show that underreporting of early neonatal deaths has varied between 10 percent and 30 percent in highly developed Western European and Asian countries.

Read more at: Infant Mortality: A Deceptive Statistic
 
at this rate their health program will rate right there with cuba

another socialist utopia the leftards love so much

We didn't make the top 16.

The 16 countries with the world's best healthcare systems

Yes....they make up the categories and they favor socialist countries...then they fail to add in the cost of maintaining an effective millitary, which we pay for so they can afford their social welfare states...

And......all of those countries, their socialized medical systems are running out of money...

How is life expectancy a 'made up' category?


There is the truth, for one...

The Nordic Democratic-Socialist Myth

In 1960, well before large welfare states had been created in Nordic countries, Swedes lived 3.2 years longer than Americans, while Norwegians lived 3.8 years longer and Danes 2.4 years longer. Today, after the Nordic countries have introduced universal health care, the difference has shrunk to 2.9 years in Sweden, 2.6 years in Norway, and 1.5 years in Denmark. The differences in life span have actually shrunk as Nordic countries moved from a small public sector to a democratic-socialist model with universal health coverage. Moreover, the longest average life spans among Nordic peoples are found in Iceland — the small Nordic cousin that has the most distinctly Nordic culture, but also the most limited welfare system.

Read more at: The Nordic Democratic-Socialist Myth

The National Review is against anything that doesn't promote profit in a capitalist market.

The article also fails to conclude as to the reason there is a five to nine month reason in average life expectancy.


Here you go, dipshit....

The Myth of Americans' Poor Life Expectancy

Car accidents and homicides don’t tell us much about health care quality

Another point worth making is that people die for other reasons than health. For example, people die because of car accidents and violent crime.


A few years back, Robert Ohsfeldt of Texas A&M and John Schneider of the University of Iowa asked the obvious question: what happens if you remove deaths from fatal injuries from the life expectancy tables?

Among the 29 members of the OECD, the U.S. vaults from 19th place to…you guessed it…first. Japan, on the same adjustment, drops from first to ninth.

-----

America doesn’t have one health care system, but three

Finally, U.S. life-expectancy statistics are skewed by the fact that the U.S. doesn’t have one health-care system, but three: Medicaid, Medicare, and private insurance. (A fourth, the Obamacare exchanges, is supposed to go into effect in 2014.) As I have noted in the past, health outcomes for those on government-sponsored insurance are worse than for those on private insurance.

To my knowledge, no one has attempted to segregate U.S. life-expectancy figures by insurance status. But based on the data we have, it’s highly likely that those on private insurance have the best life expectancy, with Medicare patients in the middle, and the uninsured and Medicaid at the bottom.

And for you.....

Greg Mankiwdiscusses some of the confounding factors with life expectancy statistics, citing this NBER study by June and Dave O'Neill comparing the U.S. and Canada. (Mankiw calls the misuse of U.S. life expectancy stats "schlocky.") Chicago economist Gary Becker makes note of the CONCORD study in this blog post. In 2009, Sam Preston and Jessica Ho of the University of Pennsylvania published a lengthy analysis of life expectancy statistics, concluding that "the low longevity ranking of the United States is not likely to be a result of a poorly functioning health care system."

 
Yep.....the problem with socialized medicine...you run out of money......and then you have to stop giving even crap care to your people...and the really funny part....you have taxed those people at about 60% on their incomes to pay for healthcare you will no longer give them.....

Socialized medicine...when you want to pay for healthcare, but don't want actual medical treatment....

Great moments in single payer: Britain cancels 50,000 surgeries - Hot Air

The UK’s vaunted single-payer system has collapsed into “third world” conditions, thanks to a lack of resources that has ambulances unable to pick up patients, who would find difficulty in getting an empty bed at a hospital. The order came down this week from on high to cancel as many as 50,000 scheduled surgeries over the next several weeks until the National Health Service can figure out how to climb out of the hole (via Guy Benson):

SEE ALSO: Iran protests dying down?

Every hospital in the country has been ordered to cancel all non-urgent surgery until at least February in an unprecedented step by NHS officials.

The instructions on Tuesday night – which will see result in around 50,000 operations being axed – followed claims by senior doctors that patients were being treated in “third world” conditions, as hospital chief executives warned of the worst winter crisis for three decades.

Hospitals are reporting growing chaos, with a spike in winter flu leaving frail patients facing 12-hour waits, and some units running out of corridor space.

It’s not just the hospitals, either. The NHS will close down outpatient clinics as well, leaving Britons with very few options for healthcare at the beginning of 2018:
This is all because the Tories, the second worst party in the modern world, keep cutting the funding. The UK spends about 8% of GDP on Healthcare while we're over 17% and most countries spend 10 to 12%. And all of them have better outcomes than we do.


No, dumbass, it's because it is unaffordable. That is the reality of state run health care. Because of the inequities built into the system, and the inherent inefficient nature of government, it can never work while man is man.

So robbing Peter (you) to pay Paul (them) to pay Paul (them) is a better answer?
 

Yes....they make up the categories and they favor socialist countries...then they fail to add in the cost of maintaining an effective millitary, which we pay for so they can afford their social welfare states...

And......all of those countries, their socialized medical systems are running out of money...

How is life expectancy a 'made up' category?


There is the truth, for one...

The Nordic Democratic-Socialist Myth

In 1960, well before large welfare states had been created in Nordic countries, Swedes lived 3.2 years longer than Americans, while Norwegians lived 3.8 years longer and Danes 2.4 years longer. Today, after the Nordic countries have introduced universal health care, the difference has shrunk to 2.9 years in Sweden, 2.6 years in Norway, and 1.5 years in Denmark. The differences in life span have actually shrunk as Nordic countries moved from a small public sector to a democratic-socialist model with universal health coverage. Moreover, the longest average life spans among Nordic peoples are found in Iceland — the small Nordic cousin that has the most distinctly Nordic culture, but also the most limited welfare system.

Read more at: The Nordic Democratic-Socialist Myth

The National Review is against anything that doesn't promote profit in a capitalist market.

The article also fails to conclude as to the reason there is a five to nine month reason in average life expectancy.


Here you go, dipshit....

The Myth of Americans' Poor Life Expectancy





Thanks for finding this, the socialists rely on stupid people like our dear one percenter to carry their water. Idiots like him are so devoid of common sense and intellectual honesty that they are the perfect tools for the masters of socialism. Fortunately there are enough people, with smarts, that we are countering thee morons with real facts and figures that they can't hide from. As more and more of us do this their power will vanish.
 
Yep.....the problem with socialized medicine...you run out of money......and then you have to stop giving even crap care to your people...and the really funny part....you have taxed those people at about 60% on their incomes to pay for healthcare you will no longer give them.....

Socialized medicine...when you want to pay for healthcare, but don't want actual medical treatment....

Great moments in single payer: Britain cancels 50,000 surgeries - Hot Air

The UK’s vaunted single-payer system has collapsed into “third world” conditions, thanks to a lack of resources that has ambulances unable to pick up patients, who would find difficulty in getting an empty bed at a hospital. The order came down this week from on high to cancel as many as 50,000 scheduled surgeries over the next several weeks until the National Health Service can figure out how to climb out of the hole (via Guy Benson):

SEE ALSO: Iran protests dying down?

Every hospital in the country has been ordered to cancel all non-urgent surgery until at least February in an unprecedented step by NHS officials.

The instructions on Tuesday night – which will see result in around 50,000 operations being axed – followed claims by senior doctors that patients were being treated in “third world” conditions, as hospital chief executives warned of the worst winter crisis for three decades.

Hospitals are reporting growing chaos, with a spike in winter flu leaving frail patients facing 12-hour waits, and some units running out of corridor space.

It’s not just the hospitals, either. The NHS will close down outpatient clinics as well, leaving Britons with very few options for healthcare at the beginning of 2018:
This is all because the Tories, the second worst party in the modern world, keep cutting the funding. The UK spends about 8% of GDP on Healthcare while we're over 17% and most countries spend 10 to 12%. And all of them have better outcomes than we do.


No, dumbass, it's because it is unaffordable. That is the reality of state run health care. Because of the inequities built into the system, and the inherent inefficient nature of government, it can never work while man is man.

So robbing Peter (you) to pay Paul (them) to pay Paul (them) is a better answer?






Yeah, it is. Peter gets robbed by Paul no matter which system you are living under silly boy. The difference is in a capitalist system the poor and the middle class CAN have access to good health care. Cuba, which your pal roger loves so much, has two hospitals....one for the elite (that was the one they showed him), and then they have the regular hospitals....those aren't nearly so nice. But, because they are for the peons, who cares...
 
Yes....they make up the categories and they favor socialist countries...then they fail to add in the cost of maintaining an effective millitary, which we pay for so they can afford their social welfare states...

And......all of those countries, their socialized medical systems are running out of money...

How is life expectancy a 'made up' category?


There is the truth, for one...

The Nordic Democratic-Socialist Myth

In 1960, well before large welfare states had been created in Nordic countries, Swedes lived 3.2 years longer than Americans, while Norwegians lived 3.8 years longer and Danes 2.4 years longer. Today, after the Nordic countries have introduced universal health care, the difference has shrunk to 2.9 years in Sweden, 2.6 years in Norway, and 1.5 years in Denmark. The differences in life span have actually shrunk as Nordic countries moved from a small public sector to a democratic-socialist model with universal health coverage. Moreover, the longest average life spans among Nordic peoples are found in Iceland — the small Nordic cousin that has the most distinctly Nordic culture, but also the most limited welfare system.

Read more at: The Nordic Democratic-Socialist Myth

The National Review is against anything that doesn't promote profit in a capitalist market.

The article also fails to conclude as to the reason there is a five to nine month reason in average life expectancy.


Here you go, dipshit....

The Myth of Americans' Poor Life Expectancy





Thanks for finding this, the socialists rely on stupid people like our dear one percenter to carry their water. Idiots like him are so devoid of common sense and intellectual honesty that they are the perfect tools for the masters of socialism. Fortunately there are enough people, with smarts, that we are countering thee morons with real facts and figures that they can't hide from. As more and more of us do this their power will vanish.


Thanks,


You are right......the internet really ruins their day. Back before the internet, they could just state crap like this and walk away, since the 3 democrat news readers on ABC, NBC and CBS and the government controlled democrats on NPR and PBS, would simply parrot it back...now, we have instantaneous fact checking and we don't have to go to the library and look through the Micrefiche to find the articles we need......
 

Yes....they make up the categories and they favor socialist countries...then they fail to add in the cost of maintaining an effective millitary, which we pay for so they can afford their social welfare states...

And......all of those countries, their socialized medical systems are running out of money...

How is life expectancy a 'made up' category?


There is the truth, for one...

The Nordic Democratic-Socialist Myth

In 1960, well before large welfare states had been created in Nordic countries, Swedes lived 3.2 years longer than Americans, while Norwegians lived 3.8 years longer and Danes 2.4 years longer. Today, after the Nordic countries have introduced universal health care, the difference has shrunk to 2.9 years in Sweden, 2.6 years in Norway, and 1.5 years in Denmark. The differences in life span have actually shrunk as Nordic countries moved from a small public sector to a democratic-socialist model with universal health coverage. Moreover, the longest average life spans among Nordic peoples are found in Iceland — the small Nordic cousin that has the most distinctly Nordic culture, but also the most limited welfare system.

Read more at: The Nordic Democratic-Socialist Myth

The National Review is against anything that doesn't promote profit in a capitalist market.

The article also fails to conclude as to the reason there is a five to nine month reason in average life expectancy.


Here you go, dipshit....

The Myth of Americans' Poor Life Expectancy

I never wrote that Americans have a poor life expectancy, I wrote that since our healthcare is the most expensive in the world, we aren't getting our monies worth predominantly do to investor returns.
 
Yep.....the problem with socialized medicine...you run out of money......and then you have to stop giving even crap care to your people...and the really funny part....you have taxed those people at about 60% on their incomes to pay for healthcare you will no longer give them.....

Socialized medicine...when you want to pay for healthcare, but don't want actual medical treatment....

Great moments in single payer: Britain cancels 50,000 surgeries - Hot Air

The UK’s vaunted single-payer system has collapsed into “third world” conditions, thanks to a lack of resources that has ambulances unable to pick up patients, who would find difficulty in getting an empty bed at a hospital. The order came down this week from on high to cancel as many as 50,000 scheduled surgeries over the next several weeks until the National Health Service can figure out how to climb out of the hole (via Guy Benson):

SEE ALSO: Iran protests dying down?

Every hospital in the country has been ordered to cancel all non-urgent surgery until at least February in an unprecedented step by NHS officials.

The instructions on Tuesday night – which will see result in around 50,000 operations being axed – followed claims by senior doctors that patients were being treated in “third world” conditions, as hospital chief executives warned of the worst winter crisis for three decades.

Hospitals are reporting growing chaos, with a spike in winter flu leaving frail patients facing 12-hour waits, and some units running out of corridor space.

It’s not just the hospitals, either. The NHS will close down outpatient clinics as well, leaving Britons with very few options for healthcare at the beginning of 2018:
This is all because the Tories, the second worst party in the modern world, keep cutting the funding. The UK spends about 8% of GDP on Healthcare while we're over 17% and most countries spend 10 to 12%. And all of them have better outcomes than we do.


No, dumbass, it's because it is unaffordable. That is the reality of state run health care. Because of the inequities built into the system, and the inherent inefficient nature of government, it can never work while man is man.

So robbing Peter (you) to pay Paul (them) to pay Paul (them) is a better answer?

Yeah, it is. Peter gets robbed by Paul no matter which system you are living under silly boy. The difference is in a capitalist system the poor and the middle class CAN have access to good health care. Cuba, which your pal roger loves so much, has two hospitals....one for the elite (that was the one they showed him), and then they have the regular hospitals....those aren't nearly so nice. But, because they are for the peons, who cares...

That's not what I wrote. Try again.
 
How is life expectancy a 'made up' category?


There is the truth, for one...

The Nordic Democratic-Socialist Myth

In 1960, well before large welfare states had been created in Nordic countries, Swedes lived 3.2 years longer than Americans, while Norwegians lived 3.8 years longer and Danes 2.4 years longer. Today, after the Nordic countries have introduced universal health care, the difference has shrunk to 2.9 years in Sweden, 2.6 years in Norway, and 1.5 years in Denmark. The differences in life span have actually shrunk as Nordic countries moved from a small public sector to a democratic-socialist model with universal health coverage. Moreover, the longest average life spans among Nordic peoples are found in Iceland — the small Nordic cousin that has the most distinctly Nordic culture, but also the most limited welfare system.

Read more at: The Nordic Democratic-Socialist Myth

The National Review is against anything that doesn't promote profit in a capitalist market.

The article also fails to conclude as to the reason there is a five to nine month reason in average life expectancy.


Here you go, dipshit....

The Myth of Americans' Poor Life Expectancy





Thanks for finding this, the socialists rely on stupid people like our dear one percenter to carry their water. Idiots like him are so devoid of common sense and intellectual honesty that they are the perfect tools for the masters of socialism. Fortunately there are enough people, with smarts, that we are countering thee morons with real facts and figures that they can't hide from. As more and more of us do this their power will vanish.


Thanks,


You are right......the internet really ruins their day. Back before the internet, they could just state crap like this and walk away, since the 3 democrat news readers on ABC, NBC and CBS and the government controlled democrats on NPR and PBS, would simply parrot it back...now, we have instantaneous fact checking and we don't have to go to the library and look through the Micrefiche to find the articles we need......

All of our days were ruined when Reagan deregulated the HMO act.
 
Yep.....the problem with socialized medicine...you run out of money......and then you have to stop giving even crap care to your people...and the really funny part....you have taxed those people at about 60% on their incomes to pay for healthcare you will no longer give them.....

Socialized medicine...when you want to pay for healthcare, but don't want actual medical treatment....

Great moments in single payer: Britain cancels 50,000 surgeries - Hot Air

The UK’s vaunted single-payer system has collapsed into “third world” conditions, thanks to a lack of resources that has ambulances unable to pick up patients, who would find difficulty in getting an empty bed at a hospital. The order came down this week from on high to cancel as many as 50,000 scheduled surgeries over the next several weeks until the National Health Service can figure out how to climb out of the hole (via Guy Benson):

SEE ALSO: Iran protests dying down?

Every hospital in the country has been ordered to cancel all non-urgent surgery until at least February in an unprecedented step by NHS officials.

The instructions on Tuesday night – which will see result in around 50,000 operations being axed – followed claims by senior doctors that patients were being treated in “third world” conditions, as hospital chief executives warned of the worst winter crisis for three decades.

Hospitals are reporting growing chaos, with a spike in winter flu leaving frail patients facing 12-hour waits, and some units running out of corridor space.

It’s not just the hospitals, either. The NHS will close down outpatient clinics as well, leaving Britons with very few options for healthcare at the beginning of 2018:
This is all because the Tories, the second worst party in the modern world, keep cutting the funding. The UK spends about 8% of GDP on Healthcare while we're over 17% and most countries spend 10 to 12%. And all of them have better outcomes than we do.


No, dumbass, it's because it is unaffordable. That is the reality of state run health care. Because of the inequities built into the system, and the inherent inefficient nature of government, it can never work while man is man.

So robbing Peter (you) to pay Paul (them) to pay Paul (them) is a better answer?

Yeah, it is. Peter gets robbed by Paul no matter which system you are living under silly boy. The difference is in a capitalist system the poor and the middle class CAN have access to good health care. Cuba, which your pal roger loves so much, has two hospitals....one for the elite (that was the one they showed him), and then they have the regular hospitals....those aren't nearly so nice. But, because they are for the peons, who cares...

That's not what I wrote. Try again.







Correct, you wrote a lie. I wrote the truth.
 

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