Let's talk about how much Buddhists support the gay lifestyle, I wouldn't mind talking about that.
Or how effective you are as a counselor of ptsd patients with your own obvious issues. Do you bait them, too? Do you encourage people to attack them?
I'll bet you do.
Dear Allie: Actually, I DID want to hear from Sky why you are one of her favorite posters.
And about two points you make above
A. about PTSD counselors
you don't have to be perfect to be a good counselor
some people shy away from perfect role models because they feel judged and intimidated
some people only learn from people when they think they are the teacher in the relationship
I've seen it all
I'm sure the people who respond to Sky work with her
and those who don't would stay away like you would!
I have one friend who is a gay atheist but he teaches the abundance of free grace, encourages people to forgive and not waste time or energy keeping inventory on people,
and is extremely effective BECAUSE he admits he has flaws and has to forgive constantly
In many ways he succeeds where Christians who seem better role models fail to reach their audience
So to each his own!
I trust Sky works on her issues simultaneously while helping others to heal
Changes happen in tandem, we learn and grow together
So what
I wish you had the same faith in Sky that you have in your approaches working
for the people you are able to help effectively. I know I've said this before, that you can cover more ground that way: you addressing people who need THAT approach, and Sky addressing her peers, and me mine, etc.
I see this diversity as good, as being to help more people
B. as for the gay issue
1. I had posted an article where the Dalai Lama mentions it is generally acknowledged that homosexuality is "not natural"
2. however, the path in Buddhism is focusing on people taking responsibility for their own development and awareness in life, so each person has to come to their own terms and reasoning
you may well be right, Allie, that Sky's homosexual nature may be unnatural and not her true nature, could be.
But the point of her path is for her to work that out, and for you and me to work out our path, etc.
so it is not neglecting or condoning it, it is just keeping it THAT person's responsibility
to deal with as part of their karma or dharma to sort out in life
3. I could go into more detail on the DIFFERENCES between
a. cases of unnatural sexual behavior even addictions caused by abuse
that are healed and changed, where these are NOT natural to the person
b. cases of sexual behavior that is "made by God" or manifestations of
past spiritual patterns, some of which may be healed/changed and some may not be
I believe science and spiritual study will lead to research that can reconcile these
points, but until then, people have different paths for studying the causes and effects.
Again, it is not to neglect or to deny something unnatural is involved here,
but it is recognizing that people's paths are different
I understand you believe in using direct confrontation to stop the denial.
I tend to be somewhere in between you and Sky, where I confront also,
but try to focus from within people's system and comfort zones, and avoid
conflicts or attacks from outside as adversaries which I find shuts down the relations.
I believe as you point out that conflicts should be addressed not denied or skirted over.
I believe as with Buddhist tolerance not to indoctrinate or impose, but allow things to
open up naturally to receive truth but not force it, to work on ourselves first and foremost.
Whatever it takes, I trust our paths are crossing for a reason!
Maybe it will take a combination of our different approaches!
Thanks Allie
Your ways of confrontation are different
but I can see how this would work effectively
for those who need that!
With Sky she seems not to respond well to the bitchslap method,
but seems to work more from the inside out, coming from within herself.
So I would work within that paradigm in order to connect the points with
where she is coming from and where she is going.
Most people I know work from the inside out.
But for the ones who have a tough hide or protective shell, maybe I will
refer them to you to slap around a little and get them to open up more!
I tend to use humor for that, but whatever works, hey!