MSNBC’s Katy Tur: Am I Out Of Touch For Not Cheering A $1,000 Bonus?

[NYcarbineer]

so raise min wage and help those poor people who arent OR stfu about 600 measley bucks

Raising minimum wage puts people out of a job. That is being shown over and over. How about we stop rewarding people for failure. If you want to make more than minimum wage, learn a skill that pays you more. Sitting around swilling beer, whining about your shit job because you were too lazy to get a skill only marks you out as a moron. Morons don't get ahead.

Not true.

Then back your statement up with these things called facts. You can say "not true" all you want. But the facts seem to be on my side, and not yours...



UW study finds Seattle’s minimum wage is costing jobs

The city’s escalating minimum wage has meant a slight increase in pay among workers earning up to $19 per hour, but the hours worked in such jobs have shrunk, a study commissioned by the city found. It estimates there would be 5,000 more such jobs without the Seattle law.
UW study finds Seattle’s minimum wage is costing jobs

A 5 dollar an hour job does not have the same value as a 15 dollar an hour job.

Clinton increased the minimum wage in around 1995. How did that affect jobs?





Wow. No shit. All minimum wage laws do is add to inflation silly boy. Try doing some research and actually look at what has happened as the minimum wage has increased.

 

[NYcarbineer]

$1000 after taxes = $600 - ONE TIME, and every American didnt get them

businesses and companies (even those offshore) that got the tax cut -100's of MILLION$$$$$ -- every year until they expire in a decade.

dumb shit RW's are still pissing their tax cut britches off.

yeah good for the people that got the spare change corporations found under their couch cushion, go to Mickey D's and live it up.

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Can I say, hypocrite?

Obama got lower deficits every year after 2010. Trump is headed in the opposite direction. That's the difference.

 

[jknowgood]

You shouldn't be cheering it if you care about deficits and debt, because the government borrowed that money to give to those corporations.

Where are your facts about that?
Now here are the FACTS about tax revenue.......
The number of Americans filing for unemployment benefits unexpectedly fell last week, dropping to its lowest level in nearly 45 years as the labor market tightened further, bolstering expectations of faster wage growth this year.
U.S. jobless claims drop to near 45-year low
So if fewer people are filing claims.... that means... less money going out in benefits
Total monthly unemployment benefits paid in the United States, 2016-2017 | Statistic

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1) means less money going out.

2) More money coming in. See I think you don't know anything about Federal tax revenue sources do you?
Look at this chart...
What is the 2nd largest source? Payroll taxes.
More people working means MORE employers paying more Payroll taxes as well as more employees paying more payroll taxes.
Are you aware that for every dollar earned by an employee a total of 13% alone goes to the Federal government as payroll taxes?
Policy Basics: Where Do Federal Tax Revenues Come From?

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He is quoting liberal talking points.

 

[jknowgood]

$1000 after taxes = $600 - ONE TIME, and every American didnt get them

businesses and companies (even those offshore) that got the tax cut -100's of MILLION$$$$$ -- every year until they expire in a decade.

dumb shit RW's are still pissing their tax cut britches off.

yeah good for the people that got the spare change corporations found under their couch cushion, go to Mickey D's and live it up.

View attachment 175606
Can I say, hypocrite?

Obama got lower deficits every year after 2010. Trump is headed in the opposite direction. That's the difference.

Lol, you don't have a clue, do you?

 

[NYcarbineer]

$1000 after taxes = $600 - ONE TIME, and every American didnt get them

businesses and companies (even those offshore) that got the tax cut -100's of MILLION$$$$$ -- every year until they expire in a decade.

dumb shit RW's are still pissing their tax cut britches off.

yeah good for the people that got the spare change corporations found under their couch cushion, go to Mickey D's and live it up.

View attachment 175606
Can I say, hypocrite?

Obama got lower deficits every year after 2010. Trump is headed in the opposite direction. That's the difference.

Lol, you don't have a clue, do you?

Do you dispute what I said, or are you just trolling like a child as usual?

 

[healthmyths]

You shouldn't be cheering it if you care about deficits and debt, because the government borrowed that money to give to those corporations.

Where are your facts about that?
Now here are the FACTS about tax revenue.......
The number of Americans filing for unemployment benefits unexpectedly fell last week, dropping to its lowest level in nearly 45 years as the labor market tightened further, bolstering expectations of faster wage growth this year.
U.S. jobless claims drop to near 45-year low
So if fewer people are filing claims.... that means... less money going out in benefits
Total monthly unemployment benefits paid in the United States, 2016-2017 | Statistic

View attachment 175601
1) means less money going out.

2) More money coming in. See I think you don't know anything about Federal tax revenue sources do you?
Look at this chart...
What is the 2nd largest source? Payroll taxes.
More people working means MORE employers paying more Payroll taxes as well as more employees paying more payroll taxes.
Are you aware that for every dollar earned by an employee a total of 13% alone goes to the Federal government as payroll taxes?
Policy Basics: Where Do Federal Tax Revenues Come From?

View attachment 175599

He is quoting liberal talking points.

Sorry about not following the links!

 

[NYcarbineer]

You shouldn't be cheering it if you care about deficits and debt, because the government borrowed that money to give to those corporations.

Where are your facts about that?
Now here are the FACTS about tax revenue.......
The number of Americans filing for unemployment benefits unexpectedly fell last week, dropping to its lowest level in nearly 45 years as the labor market tightened further, bolstering expectations of faster wage growth this year.
U.S. jobless claims drop to near 45-year low
So if fewer people are filing claims.... that means... less money going out in benefits
Total monthly unemployment benefits paid in the United States, 2016-2017 | Statistic

View attachment 175601
1) means less money going out.

2) More money coming in. See I think you don't know anything about Federal tax revenue sources do you?
Look at this chart...
What is the 2nd largest source? Payroll taxes.
More people working means MORE employers paying more Payroll taxes as well as more employees paying more payroll taxes.
Are you aware that for every dollar earned by an employee a total of 13% alone goes to the Federal government as payroll taxes?
Policy Basics: Where Do Federal Tax Revenues Come From?

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He is quoting liberal talking points.

I'm quoting the facts.

You might want to just read the first post in this:

Treasury Secretary Mnuchin frantically calls for debt ceiling increase

Take note of what is highlighted in blue.

 

[Care4all]

$1000 after taxes = $600 - ONE TIME, and every American didnt get them

businesses and companies (even those offshore) that got the tax cut -100's of MILLION$$$$$ -- every year until they expire in a decade.

dumb shit RW's are still pissing their tax cut britches off.

yeah good for the people that got the spare change corporations found under their couch cushion, go to Mickey D's and live it up.

View attachment 175606
Can I say, hypocrite?

Obama got lower deficits every year after 2010. Trump is headed in the opposite direction. That's the difference.

Also, the government is SUPPOSE to put money in to the market place during hard times to stimulate, and tighten up with little budget deficits during the good times....

We have low unemployment, the stock market is booming even with the recent fall, the economy is growing at 3%, all without the tax cuts for the corporations in place....

and our deficit is a Trillion dollars during these GOOD TIMES...

makes no sense and is irresponsible in these very good times in the economy....

You save having big deficits for the bad and slow economy times....that's how it works....

 

[healthmyths]

$1000 after taxes = $600 - ONE TIME, and every American didnt get them

businesses and companies (even those offshore) that got the tax cut -100's of MILLION$$$$$ -- every year until they expire in a decade.

dumb shit RW's are still pissing their tax cut britches off.

yeah good for the people that got the spare change corporations found under their couch cushion, go to Mickey D's and live it up.

View attachment 175606
Can I say, hypocrite?

Obama got lower deficits every year after 2010. Trump is headed in the opposite direction. That's the difference.

Where are your facts???
Obama had TARP repaid with a profit and he still rang up the worst deficits in history!
4 years deficits over $1 trillion!

 

[Siete]

Raising minimum wage puts people out of a job. That is being shown over and over. How about we stop rewarding people for failure. If you want to make more than minimum wage, learn a skill that pays you more. Sitting around swilling beer, whining about your shit job because you were too lazy to get a skill only marks you out as a moron. Morons don't get ahead.

Not true.

Then back your statement up with these things called facts. You can say "not true" all you want. But the facts seem to be on my side, and not yours...



UW study finds Seattle’s minimum wage is costing jobs

The city’s escalating minimum wage has meant a slight increase in pay among workers earning up to $19 per hour, but the hours worked in such jobs have shrunk, a study commissioned by the city found. It estimates there would be 5,000 more such jobs without the Seattle law.
UW study finds Seattle’s minimum wage is costing jobs

A 5 dollar an hour job does not have the same value as a 15 dollar an hour job.

Clinton increased the minimum wage in around 1995. How did that affect jobs?





Wow. No shit. All minimum wage laws do is add to inflation silly boy. Try doing some research and actually look at what has happened as the minimum wage has increased.

The results were clear: these basic economic indicators show no correlation between federal minimum-wage increases and lower employment levels, even in the industries that are most impacted by higher minimum wages. To the contrary, in the substantial majority of instances (68 percent) overall employment increased after a federal minimum-wage increase. In the most substantially affected industries, the rates were even higher: in the leisure and hospitality sector employment rose 82 percent of the time following a federal wage increase, and in the retail sector it was 73 percent of the time. Moreover, the small minority of instances in which employment—either overall or in the indicator sectors—declined following a federal minimum-wage increase all occurred during periods of recession or near recession. That pattern strongly suggests that the few instances of such declines in employment are better explained by the overall national business cycle than by the minimum wage.

These employment trends after federal minimum-wage increases are not surprising, as they are in line with the findings of the substantial majority of modern minimum-wage research. As Goldman Sachs analysts recently noted, citing a state-of-the-art 2010 study by University of California economists that examined job-growth patterns across every border in the U.S. where one county had a higher wage than a neighboring county, “the economic literature has typically found no effect on employment” from recent U.S. minimum-wage increases.[1] This report’s findings mirror decades of more sophisticated academic research, providing simple confirmation that opponents’ perennial predictions of job losses when minimum-wage increases are proposed are rooted in ideology, not evidence.


http://www.nelp.org/content/uploads/NELP-Data-Brief-Raise-Wages-Kill-Jobs-No-Correlation.pdf

 

[martybegan]

A $1000 bonus is a one time deal. The budget busting corporate tax cuts are permanent.

So if democrats get back control of the government they can never ever ever raise the corporate tax rate?

Who knew?

Only if the Repubs are put far in to the minority, will the Dems be able to do that...because all the republicans took a PLEDGE never to raise taxes with Grover Norquist...

Nah, there would always be a few Republican-lites around to go in with the Dems when they want to raise taxes.

 

[NYcarbineer]

$1000 after taxes = $600 - ONE TIME, and every American didnt get them

businesses and companies (even those offshore) that got the tax cut -100's of MILLION$$$$$ -- every year until they expire in a decade.

dumb shit RW's are still pissing their tax cut britches off.

yeah good for the people that got the spare change corporations found under their couch cushion, go to Mickey D's and live it up.

View attachment 175606
Can I say, hypocrite?

Obama got lower deficits every year after 2010. Trump is headed in the opposite direction. That's the difference.

Where are your facts???
Obama had TARP repaid with a profit and he still rang up the worst deficits in history!
4 years deficits over $1 trillion!

View attachment 175609

Bush's last deficit was not 459 billion. That's a fiscal year number that doesn't count the last 4 months of his presidency.
Bush's last deficit was closer to a trillion.

 

[Care4all]

$1000 after taxes = $600 - ONE TIME, and every American didnt get them

businesses and companies (even those offshore) that got the tax cut -100's of MILLION$$$$$ -- every year until they expire in a decade.

dumb shit RW's are still pissing their tax cut britches off.

yeah good for the people that got the spare change corporations found under their couch cushion, go to Mickey D's and live it up.

View attachment 175606
Can I say, hypocrite?

Obama got lower deficits every year after 2010. Trump is headed in the opposite direction. That's the difference.

Where are your facts???
Obama had TARP repaid with a profit and he still rang up the worst deficits in history!
4 years deficits over $1 trillion!

View attachment 175609

3 years not 4, 2009 budget deficit was pres bush's running budget deficit of $1.4 trillion. Obama brougt that deficit down for the next three years that he was over a trillion....

Trump has near doubled Obama's running deficit in his first fiscal budget....and doing this during GOOD economic TIMES....

 

[NYcarbineer]

$1000 after taxes = $600 - ONE TIME, and every American didnt get them

businesses and companies (even those offshore) that got the tax cut -100's of MILLION$$$$$ -- every year until they expire in a decade.

dumb shit RW's are still pissing their tax cut britches off.

yeah good for the people that got the spare change corporations found under their couch cushion, go to Mickey D's and live it up.

View attachment 175606
Can I say, hypocrite?

Obama got lower deficits every year after 2010. Trump is headed in the opposite direction. That's the difference.

Where are your facts???
Obama had TARP repaid with a profit and he still rang up the worst deficits in history!
4 years deficits over $1 trillion!

View attachment 175609

Here's the real Bush final deficit, from Jan. 20, 2008 to Jan. 20 2009.

See if you can do the math.

Debt to the Penny (Daily History Search Application)

 

[Siete]

shove the min wage myth back up their ass and a deficit magically appears -

its magic I tell you - PURE MAGIC !!

 

[NYcarbineer]

I'm guessing that any of the people who got a thousand dollar bonus, who also own stocks,

got that bonus wiped out in the last two weeks, and maybe then some.

 

[healthmyths]

$1000 after taxes = $600 - ONE TIME, and every American didnt get them

businesses and companies (even those offshore) that got the tax cut -100's of MILLION$$$$$ -- every year until they expire in a decade.

dumb shit RW's are still pissing their tax cut britches off.

yeah good for the people that got the spare change corporations found under their couch cushion, go to Mickey D's and live it up.

View attachment 175606
Can I say, hypocrite?

Obama got lower deficits every year after 2010. Trump is headed in the opposite direction. That's the difference.

Where are your facts???
Obama had TARP repaid with a profit and he still rang up the worst deficits in history!
4 years deficits over $1 trillion!

View attachment 175609

Here's the real Bush final deficit, from Jan. 20, 2008 to Jan. 20 2009.

See if you can do the math.

Debt to the Penny (Daily History Search Application)

The math is simple...
1/18/2008 $ 9,188,640,287,930.39
1/20/2009 10,626,877,048,913.00
=====================================
The difference: $1,438,236,760,982.61

Don't disagree. Among that debt $687 billion in TARP which was paid back plus a profit under Obama and Obama still rang up largest deficits in history!
From your same link!
1/20/2009 $10,626,877,048,913.0 debt increase $1,438,236,760,982.61
1/20/2010 12,327,380,804,696.82 debt increase $1,700,503,755,783.80 (remember TARP is now being paid back...!)
1/20/2011 14,056,313,474,932.58 debt increase $1,728,932,670,235.70
1/20/2012 15,236,271,879,792.78 debt increase $1,179,958,404,860.20
1/20/2013 16,432,495,841,444.68 debt increase $1,196,223,961,651.90
1/21/2014 17,276,126,988,070.62 debt increase $ 843,631,146,626.00
1/20/2015 18,086,048,044,499.39 debt increase $ 809,921,056,428.70
1/20/2016 18,941,406,899,252.15 debt increase $ 855,358,854,752.80

So from 2009 to 2016 Obama increased the national debt ACCORDING to YOUR LINK by : $9,752,766,611,321.71
And remember TARP was paid BACK!!! The $623 billion that went against GWB debt was paid back including $84 Billion in interest and still Obama increased national DEBT
the most than the last 5 presidents!

 

[hadit]

You shouldn't be cheering it if you care about deficits and debt, because the government borrowed that money to give to those corporations.

It's a good thing that didn't happen, because it would be bad. Letting someone keep more of what they already earned isn't giving them anything, it's not taking as much as you used to.

 

[hadit]

I'm guessing that any of the people who got a thousand dollar bonus, who also own stocks,

got that bonus wiped out in the last two weeks, and maybe then some.

So they're still better off getting the bonus.

 

[blastoff]

How surprising Ms Tur(d) is clueless a vast vast majority of people in the country would find a $1000 bonus a much welcomed windfall. Perhaps if she'd lower her nose a bit she might get a better view of what's going on in the real world around her.