Most Voters Think America’s Divisions Cannot Be Overcome, Poll Says.

[struth]

Trump’s administration proved it. When the prosecutor said there was no case against Comey and James, he was fired. The people ordered to investigate Kelly are well aware their careers can be ended because they don’t tell Trump what he wants to hear.

well yeah, because there was, as a grand jury showed when they indicted them.

Duh

maybe in your fascist utopia unelected officials can decide who to charge or who not to, but in a free society, like the one we have here, it's up to a grand jury of the people to make that determination

That's the check on your fascsim in a free world

 

[Marener]

well yeah, because there was, as a grand jury showed when they indicted them.

Duh

Only when a corrupt and illegal appointed prosecutor violated DoJ policies and lied to the grand jury.

Because that’s what fascists do.

 

[struth]

Only when a corrupt and illegal appointed prosecutor violated DoJ policies and lied to the grand jury.

Because that’s what fascists do.

Link to this....got the transcript? where's the lie?

 

[Marener]

Link to this....got the transcript? where's the lie?

When a legitimate prosecutor went to the grand jury, they saw no crime.

Grand jury rejects DOJ's attempt to revive fraud case against New York AG Letitia James: Sources

A grand jury has refused to indict New York AG Letitia James on charges of mortgage fraud, ten days after a judge dismissed a nearly identical case.

abcnews.go.com

 

[struth]

When a legitimate prosecutor went to the grand jury, they saw no crime.

Grand jury rejects DOJ's attempt to revive fraud case against New York AG Letitia James: Sources

A grand jury has refused to indict New York AG Letitia James on charges of mortgage fraud, ten days after a judge dismissed a nearly identical case.

abcnews.go.com

but what about Comey?

 

[Marener]

but what about Comey?

For one, they presented evidence that was illegally obtained.

Federal judge sets back Justice Department's effort to seek new indictment against Comey

A federal judge has dealt a setback to Justice Department efforts to seek a new indictment against former FBI Director James Comey, temporarily barring prosecutors from using evidence they had relied on when they initially secured criminal charges.

www.pbs.org

And tainted the jury with false statements about the law.

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www.findlaw.com

 

[struth]

For one, they presented evidence that was illegally obtained.

Federal judge sets back Justice Department's effort to seek new indictment against Comey

A federal judge has dealt a setback to Justice Department efforts to seek a new indictment against former FBI Director James Comey, temporarily barring prosecutors from using evidence they had relied on when they initially secured criminal charges.

www.pbs.org

And tainted the jury with false statements about the law.

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www.findlaw.com

Your link says they had a warrant when they got it....the question is can they still use it, the judge hasn't ruled it was ilegally searched the second time.

So, once again you lied. That's a tactic of a good fascsit...lying.

 

[Marener]

Your link says they had a warrant when they got it....the question is can they still use it, the judge hasn't ruled it was ilegally searched the second time.

So, once again you lied. That's a tactic of a good fascsit...lying.

The warrant was for something else entirely.

If you want to use the information in a different investigation, you have to get a new warrant. They didn’t, which means it was illegally used in violation of his 4th amendment rights. Furthermore, they never analyzed it for protected communications.

In summary, your corrupt Trump crony should have never been in front of a grand jury and violated the constitution in a number of ways when she did so.

That’s what happens in fascist countries. When Comey said something Trump didn’t like, Trump violated his rights to punish him.

 

[Papageorgio]

Launching investigations against innocent people is fascist.

He’s punishing them for saying things he didn’t like.

And that’s what Trump did.

Every law enforcement agency has done this since the inception of our country. There is a presumption of innocence.

Making military personnel take a shot even though it violates their conscience is fascist.

Forcing people to call people a certain gender is fascist.

Taking away religious freedoms is fascist.

And I don’t believe in using your political power in lawfare however this isn’t the first and it won’t be the last, the fact you only see Trump doing this shows how politically blind you are.

 

[Redfish]

I disagree
Everybody’s working for the weekend

You work hard all week to have a lousy two days to call your own. You need to do things for yourself, your relationship and your family.

You need to do things, take vacations, do things with your family. You want your kids to remember the fun things they did, not that dad worked all the time and just hoarded his money.

By all means, put money aside for your retirement but not at the cost of having a life.

you are both right, it's about finding the balance between the two.

 

[Marener]

Every law enforcement agency has done this since the inception of our country. There is a presumption of innocence.

Making military personnel take a shot even though it violates their conscience is fascist.

Forcing people to call people a certain gender is fascist.

Taking away religious freedoms is fascist.

And I don’t believe in using your political power in lawfare however this isn’t the first and it won’t be the last, the fact you only see Trump doing this shows how politically blind you are.

The military has been forcing service members to be vaccinated for a very long time. They are required to follow orders. That’s normal.

Who is forcing people to call someone by a preferred gender?

Trump is doing it openly. It’s unquestioned. You believe others have done so without real evidence. I don’t share your beliefs.

 

[struth]

The warrant was for something else entirely.

If you want to use the information in a different investigation, you have to get a new warrant. They didn’t, which means it was illegally used in violation of his 4th amendment rights. Furthermore, they never analyzed it for protected communications.

In summary, your corrupt Trump crony should have never been in front of a grand jury and violated the constitution in a number of ways when she did so.

That’s what happens in fascist countries. When Comey said something Trump didn’t like, Trump violated his rights to punish him.

You clearly didn’t read your link

The evidence was legally obtained, when it was obtained

The question is that months later, can the govt still review that evidence, that was at first legally obtained

It’s actually a interesting question of law, that the SCOTUS might have to decide

 

[Papageorgio]

The military has been forcing service members to be vaccinated for a very long time. They are required to follow orders. That’s normal.

Who is forcing people to call someone by a preferred gender?

Trump is doing it openly. It’s unquestioned. You believe others have done so without real evidence. I don’t share your beliefs.

Military personnel sued and won, the Covid vaccine was unconstitutional.

You are making up more and more, you confuse free speech with fascism. Several Trump supporters were jailed and tried during the lawfare of the Biden administration. Obama had the IRS hold up applications for right wing organizations. These are fact but you don’t want to believe the truth.

 

[Freedomisneverfree]

It can never be anything but RABID hateful Democrats that would do anything to win an election.

 

[Papageorgio]

It can never be anything but RABID hateful Democrats that would do anything to win an election.

Depends on who you ask. I have heard both sides claim this.

The two parties are more alike than different.

 

[Marener]

You clearly didn’t read your link

The evidence was legally obtained, when it was obtained

The question is that months later, can the govt still review that evidence, that was at first legally obtained

It’s actually a interesting question of law, that the SCOTUS might have to decide

It’s already been decided and it’s clearly unconstitutional.

You can’t have general warrants. They have to be specific.

 

[Marener]

Military personnel sued and won, the Covid vaccine was unconstitutional.

You are making up more and more, you confuse free speech with fascism. Several Trump supporters were jailed and tried during the lawfare of the Biden administration. Obama had the IRS hold up applications for right wing organizations. These are fact but you don’t want to believe the truth.

The cases that were won in the military were on a very narrow basis, specifically that only one vaccine had full FDA approval and they were being required to take other similar versions that were only under EUA. It was a brief problem until other vaccines received full approval. It really didn’t limit the ability for the president to require military members to be vaccinated. Service members get a ton of vaccines.

No, you don’t have facts. Sure, some Trump supporters were jailed. But did you stop to consider that they might have actually committed crimes?

 

[ThisIsMe]

The claim is true.

No, its not.

And here is one example of the bigotry. Women transition into men. You guys don't seem to get that. You guys ignore the women who transition into men and go into men's locker rooms and bathrooms

You really dont hear much about women transitioning into men and entering men's locker rooms, or playing in men's sports, you almost always hear about men transitioning into women, and going into women's locker rooms and playing in women's sports.

. You need to stop listening to the whining of bitches like Riley Gaines, who lost to 5 or 6 other women besides Lia Thomas at a swim meet.

Did lia Thompson, a biological male, beat 5 or 6 other biological women? The fact that Riley Gaines brought it into the spotlight is irrelevant.

There are biological women playing skill positions on football teams with men.

Its not common. You dont hear about these things in the news.

There are girls who have won state high school wrestling championships against boys.

Yes, again, its not common and you'll see this.

You right wingers don't seem to understand that what you believe is not the only belief.

And what YOU believe is not the only belief.

You guys want everyone to tolerate everything you believe, you want to force your beliefs on everyone else, and you use the courts to try getting it done

No, it's the trans movement thats trying to force everyone into their way of thinking.

Most right wingers just want them to stay out of girls bathrooms, and out of girls sports, and not to force pronouns onto people. Don't demand that others believe in something they dont actually believe.

,, yet you say that you don't want beliefs to be forced on you

They dont.

. The right is nothing more than a white power movement based on grievances whites imagine because they are being forced by law to allow equal opportunity.

What does this topic have to do with "white power"? Your DiAngelo-ism is showing.

Im all for equal opportunity but grown men in girls bathrooms, or in women's sports is not an equal opportunity issue, its an ethics issue.

That is the bigotry and it is about much more than the rightwing obsession with part of the trans population.

Do you really believe that men can become women? Like REALLY become women?

 

[Papageorgio]

The cases that were won in the military were on a very narrow basis, specifically that only one vaccine had full FDA approval and they were being required to take other similar versions that were only under EUA. It was a brief problem until other vaccines received full approval. It really didn’t limit the ability for the president to require military members to be vaccinated. Service members get a ton of vaccines.

No, you don’t have facts. Sure, some Trump supporters were jailed. But did you stop to consider that they might have actually committed crimes?

Maybe those Trump has gone after might have actually committed crimes. It cuts both ways, not just one. I told you our government, with each presidency push the limits of our rights, you only choose to see one side not both and you ignore facts.

 

[Marener]

Maybe those Trump has gone after might have actually committed crimes. It cuts both ways, not just one. I told you our government, with each presidency push the limits of our rights, you only choose to see one side not both and you ignore facts.

We’ve seen the cases against Letitia James and Jim Comey and they’re clearly only being prosecuted because Trump is pushing to punish his enemies.

The corruption coming out of the DoJ has no comparison in modern history.

You keep pretending Trump is acting like other presidents which is just totally delusional.