Most Voters Think America’s Divisions Cannot Be Overcome, Poll Says.

[martybegan]

They’re not that different. Deficit spending is stimulatory. Whether that comes from increasing government programs or lower government taxes.

We didn’t need to stimulate the economy in 2003 or 2017. We were already going fine.

Trump and MAGA claim the economy from 2017 to 2019 was the most amazing economy we’ve ever had. Yet we still couldn’t even come close to balancing the budget, deficits only worsened.

Not when it's spent on increasing the size of the government. It works when it's done on actual public projects to spur the private economy.

That's a lack of will from the federal establishment, and one thing at a time. Trump is cutting that down to size first.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

A new Times/Siena survey shows a significant shift among voters, as their concerns about the health of the political system overtake other issues.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/10/02/us/politics/times-siena-poll-political-polarization.html

mericans have markedly less faith in the ability of the country’s political system to solve problems than they had five years ago, with a large majority now believing that the country is incapable of overcoming its deep divisions, according to a poll by The New York Times and Siena University.

Even in the middle of the coronavirus pandemic, when the country was fighting over mask mandates and forced to reckon with questions about racial inequality, a majority of voters still agreed that the country was capable of solving its political problems.

Today, just 33 percent of voters feel the same.

The steep rise in pessimism reflects a striking shift in the public’s perceptions about what ails the country. After the economy, the poll found that Americans were most likely to point to problems in the political culture as the most urgent. They named polarization and the state of democracy more often than immigration, inflation or crime.

Attacks on our Constitution continue. The illegal deportation of Men and Women who engage in Pro-Palestinian protests have been blocked. Free Speech under attack. Trump wants to put U.S. Troops on the ground of U.S. Cities. This is what Authoritarianism looks like.

We're a house divided.

We have a government that works to enrich itself. In China, they execute public servants for doing the same

 

[Marener]

Not when it's spent on increasing the size of the government. It works when it's done on actual public projects to spur the private economy.

That's a lack of will from the federal establishment, and one thing at a time. Trump is cutting that down to size first.

Spending during downturns usually takes the form of stimulus checks, enhanced unemployment benefits. That stimulates consumer spending and economic activity. We don’t do public works projects like the old days.

Trump isn’t cutting anything down to size. He expanded deficits in his first term and he’s expanding deficits in his second term.

You already admitted that the huge debt is intentional. The only way you could achieve your austerity goals is by creating a fiscal crisis.

 

[martybegan]

Spending during downturns usually takes the form of stimulus checks, enhanced unemployment benefits. That stimulates consumer spending and economic activity. We don’t do public works projects like the old days.

Trump isn’t cutting anything down to size. He expanded deficits in his first term and he’s expanding deficits in his second term.

You already admitted that the huge debt is intentional. The only way you could achieve your austerity goals is by creating a fiscal crisis.

That was the original intent of Keysean spending, stimulate work, not create handouts.

The goal being to get something solid from the excess spending. The original intent has been ignored by current leadership.

He's cutting the government itself down to size, which is step one.

You want to keep taxing people into oblivion, keep expanding government, keep the status quo.

 

[leftwinger]

Spending during downturns usually takes the form of stimulus checks, enhanced unemployment benefits. That stimulates consumer spending and economic activity. We don’t do public works projects like the old days.

Trump isn’t cutting anything down to size. He expanded deficits in his first term and he’s expanding deficits in his second term.

You already admitted that the huge debt is intentional. The only way you could achieve your austerity goals is by creating a fiscal crisis.

You ignorant OX. They started DOGE who found $200B wasted or stolen right away, low hanging fruit. The Trump regime is the only one of my lifetime to ever try to cut the size of GOVT, reduce Waste and corruption.

Yet you babble on like a dumb DEM parrot, you sicken the country. All your type and the anarchist crazy LW loons.

 

[Frankenstein]

Why should we do either?

As it is, most of us put off retiring until we are 67.

You want us to put it off further? That's crazy.

Lower the age, so after 40 years of hard work we can enjoy retirement. Selfish bastards

 

[Frankenstein]

Longevity plateaued 20 years ago. You needed to pay more to cover that, but you didn’t because your generation didn’t give a shit about fiscal responsibility.

Your generation was all about taking whatever it can from whoever it could, including future generations.

Screw that, we want back what we paid, would be nice since it's been going to fund the government, that we would get about 10% INTEREST ON TOP OF IT AND PAID IN FULL RIGHT AT THE GET GO NOT SPARINGLY PAID BACK.

 

[leftwinger]

Hi tech, hi-pay over 50 years will easily pay in $500K with employer match 6% (12% total). At age 70 they get maybe $40K per year? On AVG Live to age 80? Do the math big mouthed Joe blow.

 

[sartre play]

Sure immigration is a mess.... How is what's happening now fixing it?

 

[leftwinger]

Sure immigration is a mess.... How is what's happening now fixing it?

$1M visa or whatever. Bring in those with money. Trump regime is thinking smart, outside the lowIQ Dem DC hack. Singapore doesn't take in 1000 vagrants or criminals per day to feed and house. They charge $5million. Time to reverse some of the DC insanity.

 

[Mac-7]

Sure immigration is a mess.... How is what's happening now fixing it?

The obama-biden junta packed America with a minimum of 15-20 million illegal aliens

That cannot be easily overcome

The democrats in congress and the deep blue cities and states are fighting deportation with every dirty trick the can muster

And that includes violence

Against that Trump and his team are pushing forward

I suppose the voters will decide in upcoming elections what America’s future

Either greatness or 3rd world poverty and failure

 

[martybegan]

$1M visa or whatever. Bring in those with money. Trump regime is thinking smart, outside the lowIQ Dem DC hack. Singapore doesn't take in 1000 vagrants or criminals per day to feed and house. They charge $5million. Time to reverse some of the DC insanity.

That and returning H1-B's to their original intent, high earning, hard to find technical specialists, not low earners to replace mid level engineers and technical people.

 

[dblack]

Most Americans believe Ds and Rs are the only choice.

 

[leftwinger]

Most Americans believe Ds and Rs are the only choice.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

Longevity plateaued 20 years ago. You needed to pay more to cover that, but you didn’t because your generation didn’t give a shit about fiscal responsibility.

Your generation was all about taking whatever it can from whoever it could, including future generations.

Health has stagnated because Americans have choices and make poor health choices. Do better

 

[SweetTea]

So why are you guys obsessed with cutting taxes when we are already in a fiscal chasm?

I thought tariffs were the equivalent of taxes. If so, we aren't as obsessed with cutting taxes as you make it seem. Let me guess, here is where you tell me that tariffs are a tax but they are regressive. It is those that make more that should share even MORE of the tax burden than they already do.

 

[Marener]

I thought tariffs were the equivalent of taxes. If so, we aren't as obsessed with cutting taxes as you make it seem. Let me guess, here is where you tell me that tariffs are a tax but they are regressive. It is those that make more that should share even MORE of the tax burden than they already do.

I thought Americans don’t pay for tariffs, all the other countries do?

Yes, tariffs are regressive. Did republicans run on cutting taxes for the rich and raising them for the poor? I don’t remember that part of the campaign.

 

[SweetTea]

I thought Americans don’t pay for tariffs, all the other countries do?

Yes, tariffs are regressive. Did republicans run on cutting taxes for the rich and raising them for the poor? I don’t remember that part of the campaign.

So tariffs are taxes, but they are different because they are regressive. Of course, you leave out the part that both the poor and the rich would pay for any increases in prices as a result of higher tariffs. Percentage of income has nothing to do with it. If that was the case, we would have to raise Musk and Gate's tax rates to well over 99% to account for income discrepancies in order for a new tax not to be considered "regressive".

 

[Marener]

So tariffs are taxes, but they are different because they are regressive. Of course, you leave out the part that both the poor and the rich would pay for any increases in prices as a result of higher tariffs. Percentage of income has nothing to do with it. If that was the case, we would have to raise Musk and Gate's tax rates to well over 99% to account for income discrepancies in order for a new tax not to be considered "regressive".

I don’t think you understand what regressive means.

If your platform is that poor people have it too easy and need to pay more taxes, then just be honest about it.

 

[Care4all]

Time for your prosac, fruitcake.

What do you disagree with, and why?