Billo_Really
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Which is something you don't have!Only if you've got the balls and the muscle to do it.
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Which is something you don't have!Only if you've got the balls and the muscle to do it.
It has everything to do with religion.In a strategic sense, Israel had no choice but to strike,That's both naïve and stupid in view of the circumstances.They had a choice. Obey the law.
take the initiative and throw Egypt off balance. Honestly, Loinboy, your jew hatinÂ’ attitudes are why your comments are so laughably inept.Oh my. Aren't you the internet tough guy.Why would I hate jews?
Can you answer that question, you disgusting piece of shit?
That's still not illegal.
It has nothing to do with religion.This was just the reality of the political landscape in connection with hostile arab Crusaders hated (and still hate) Israel which was (and still is) viewed as an affront to islam.
You live under a rock, right?That's just the bullshit excuse you push to hide the fact that all the hostility has to do with Israeli aggression and illegal acts of colonialism. They hate Israeli bombs, not Judaism.
In the diseased moslem psyche, only blood will serve; only dead Israelis will sufficiently unite the moslem world to not only vilify Israel but also further incite hatred and violence, even war, against her. And the prepared scripts from morons such as you continue as planned because it serves your agenda of Joooooo hatreds.
Why do you hate Jews?All ask you again, why would I hate jews?
I find the majority of your comments stupendpusly stupid.I find it pretty retarded you making a claim like that, but not being able to say why?
Really. The entirety of the hatreds that drive islamist terrorism are my fault?What will end this conflict, is to get rid of the hatred in pieces of shit like you. Your hatred is no different than the nazsi hatred of the jews. It's the same hate. And both of you can go fuck yourselves!
Why don't you dazzle all of us with your presentation and analysis of such matters, instead?"...What pissed Nassar off? He didn't wake up one day and say to himself, "I hate Israel!" . Find what got him angry and you will find Israeli war planes had something to with it."
That's OK... the Arabs cut yours off quite some time ago... they like their 'special' boys docile.Which is something you don't have!Only if you've got the balls and the muscle to do it.
What pissed Nassar off?On May 22, less than two weeks beforehand, Egyptian President Nassar had publicly declared that his near-term goal was the destruction of Israel."...Egypt could line up their entire army along the border and as long as they stay on their side of the line, it's none of Israel's god-damn business what goes on within the territorial borders of a sovereign nation..."
You are essentially saying here that it is OK to (1) declare that you will be going to war with your adversary soon to wipe them out, (2) declare a general military mobilization of your country, (3) deploy two-thirds [2/3] of your Army and Air Force snug-up against your adversary's borders, (4) begin coordinating war-plans with your allies (Syria, Iraq, Jordan) on your adversary's other borders and (5) have the delusional expectation of protection of international law until you had actually launched your attack.
You are absolutely correct, legally speaking.
You may also be an idiot, in terms of the practicalities attending to the affairs of nations and men and armies and warfare, and you would never be a good candidate for promotion to the general staff nor strategy board of any nation's armed forces, nor could you be trusted in any position designed to protect your nation on the strategic or macro level.
Which is a damned shame, because I perceive you to be an intelligent person.
If my choices are...
1. obey international law to the extreme letter, while ignoring public declarations by the enemy and general mobilzations and deployments that are going to overwhelm my people unless some intervention is successfully executed, or...
2. preemptively striking at these massed and forward-deployed ground positions and air forces, to whittle down the enemy and attain air superiority, before they strike in the next couple of days...
...or, put another way, if my choices are...
1. obey international law to the extreme letter...
...or...
2. ensure the survival of my people...
Then I choose the survival of my people every time, and sadly find myself obliged to say to the world at-large: "Fuck International Law, in this instance. Sue me, assholes."
At least my people will still be alive and intact at the end of the sequence.
It was down to just such a visceral choice in the final run-up to the 1967 Six Day War.
The Israelis made the correct choice.
And, as luck or The Fates or God Almighty or Chance or whatever would have it, that also set the stage for the Israelis to kick some major-league Arab ass, and bitch-slap the lot of 'em.
If, as a leader of a government - any government, in any part of the world - if as a leader, you ever chose (1) - your own people would slit your throat, before they surrendered to or died at the hands of the enemy that was swamping them under.
And rightfully so, because you would have been a traitor to your people, for no better reason than because you wanted to obey International Law to the letter, at the expense of their survival; reasonably confident that your actions would produce such a tragic outcome.
In actuality, I think you're intelligent enough and have enough common sense that you would have come-around to the necessity of (1) yourself... it's just that you're obliged to hold otherwise here in these public postings, in pursuit of your pro-Palestinian / pro-Arab propaganda agenda.
On the other hand, if, in the real world, you really and truly would choose (1), then, unfortunately, you may very well be an idiot after all, in terms of functioning with the Real World, in a strategic or tactical military sense, and may be confidently ignored in that context.
It is my hope - for your sake - that, in the Real World, you are not actually crippled thus.
He didn't wake up one day and say to himself, "I hate Israel!"
Find what got him angry and you will find Israeli war planes had something to with it.
Indeed.You really are an idiot. What “pissed off Nassar” was the possibility of losing islamo street cred. He didn’t dare appear weak in terms of his Islamic inspired virulent hatred of Jooooos because that would have allowed the rats to start gnawing at his feet. He had to save face to keep the hellhole of Arabism under control.
What pissed Nassar off?On May 22, less than two weeks beforehand, Egyptian President Nassar had publicly declared that his near-term goal was the destruction of Israel.
You are essentially saying here that it is OK to (1) declare that you will be going to war with your adversary soon to wipe them out, (2) declare a general military mobilization of your country, (3) deploy two-thirds [2/3] of your Army and Air Force snug-up against your adversary's borders, (4) begin coordinating war-plans with your allies (Syria, Iraq, Jordan) on your adversary's other borders and (5) have the delusional expectation of protection of international law until you had actually launched your attack.
You are absolutely correct, legally speaking.
You may also be an idiot, in terms of the practicalities attending to the affairs of nations and men and armies and warfare, and you would never be a good candidate for promotion to the general staff nor strategy board of any nation's armed forces, nor could you be trusted in any position designed to protect your nation on the strategic or macro level.
Which is a damned shame, because I perceive you to be an intelligent person.
If my choices are...
1. obey international law to the extreme letter, while ignoring public declarations by the enemy and general mobilzations and deployments that are going to overwhelm my people unless some intervention is successfully executed, or...
2. preemptively striking at these massed and forward-deployed ground positions and air forces, to whittle down the enemy and attain air superiority, before they strike in the next couple of days...
...or, put another way, if my choices are...
1. obey international law to the extreme letter...
...or...
2. ensure the survival of my people...
Then I choose the survival of my people every time, and sadly find myself obliged to say to the world at-large: "Fuck International Law, in this instance. Sue me, assholes."
At least my people will still be alive and intact at the end of the sequence.
It was down to just such a visceral choice in the final run-up to the 1967 Six Day War.
The Israelis made the correct choice.
And, as luck or The Fates or God Almighty or Chance or whatever would have it, that also set the stage for the Israelis to kick some major-league Arab ass, and bitch-slap the lot of 'em.
If, as a leader of a government - any government, in any part of the world - if as a leader, you ever chose (1) - your own people would slit your throat, before they surrendered to or died at the hands of the enemy that was swamping them under.
And rightfully so, because you would have been a traitor to your people, for no better reason than because you wanted to obey International Law to the letter, at the expense of their survival; reasonably confident that your actions would produce such a tragic outcome.
In actuality, I think you're intelligent enough and have enough common sense that you would have come-around to the necessity of (1) yourself... it's just that you're obliged to hold otherwise here in these public postings, in pursuit of your pro-Palestinian / pro-Arab propaganda agenda.
On the other hand, if, in the real world, you really and truly would choose (1), then, unfortunately, you may very well be an idiot after all, in terms of functioning with the Real World, in a strategic or tactical military sense, and may be confidently ignored in that context.
It is my hope - for your sake - that, in the Real World, you are not actually crippled thus.
He didn't wake up one day and say to himself, "I hate Israel!"
Find what got him angry and you will find Israeli war planes had something to with it.
You really are an idiot. What “pissed off Nassar” was the possibility of losing islamo street cred. He didn’t dare appear weak in terms of his Islamic inspired virulent hatred of Jooooos because that would have allowed the rats to start gnawing at his feet. He had to save face to keep the hellhole of Arabism under control.
I will agree with you on Nassar. He was a stupid general with a big ego. He made a lot of mistakes and didn't want his people to know about it.You really are an idiot. What “pissed off Nassar” was the possibility of losing islamo street cred. He didn’t dare appear weak in terms of his Islamic inspired virulent hatred of Jooooos because that would have allowed the rats to start gnawing at his feet. He had to save face to keep the hellhole of Arabism under control.
Let's just say both sides were provoking each other.During 1965-7, Israel's armed forces staged numerous provocations along the Israeli-Syrian border area. The pattern was of action and reaction. Israeli armoured tractors, often guarded by police, would start to plow in a disputed area of the DMZ. From its high ground positions, Syria would fire at those advancing, and, adopting a new policy, retaliated for Israeli fire at Syrian military positions by firing on civilian settlements in the Hula Valley. Israel would retaliate with raids on Syrian positions, including the use of air power. U.N. officials blamed both Israel and Syria for destabilizing the borders.
I will agree with you on Nassar. He was a stupid general with a big ego. He made a lot of mistakes and didn't want his people to know about it.You really are an idiot. What “pissed off Nassar” was the possibility of losing islamo street cred. He didn’t dare appear weak in terms of his Islamic inspired virulent hatred of Jooooos because that would have allowed the rats to start gnawing at his feet. He had to save face to keep the hellhole of Arabism under control.
But that's not the whole story. He did have reason to be pissed off at Israel.
Let's just say both sides were provoking each other.During 1965-7, Israel's armed forces staged numerous provocations along the Israeli-Syrian border area. The pattern was of action and reaction. Israeli armoured tractors, often guarded by police, would start to plow in a disputed area of the DMZ. From its high ground positions, Syria would fire at those advancing, and, adopting a new policy, retaliated for Israeli fire at Syrian military positions by firing on civilian settlements in the Hula Valley. Israel would retaliate with raids on Syrian positions, including the use of air power. U.N. officials blamed both Israel and Syria for destabilizing the borders.
But on the subject of hating Israel, when reading your posts, I ask myself, "How can anyone not hate Israel?" I have come to the conclusion, after seeing you spew hate 24/7, that you are someone who is truly worth hating.
Israels act of aggression against Egypt was a war crime.
Egypts' s alleged acts of provocation were not.
As always, we see Zionists in Palestine choosing the war criminal path to take, just like the Nazis they emulate.
Yeah, I will give Brillo-Boy credit for an occasional flash-burst of honesty.I will agree with you on Nassar. He was a stupid general with a big ego. He made a lot of mistakes and didn't want his people to know about it.You really are an idiot. What “pissed off Nassar” was the possibility of losing islamo street cred. He didn’t dare appear weak in terms of his Islamic inspired virulent hatred of Jooooos because that would have allowed the rats to start gnawing at his feet. He had to save face to keep the hellhole of Arabism under control.
But that's not the whole story. He did have reason to be pissed off at Israel.
Let's just say both sides were provoking each other.During 1965-7, Israel's armed forces staged numerous provocations along the Israeli-Syrian border area. The pattern was of action and reaction. Israeli armoured tractors, often guarded by police, would start to plow in a disputed area of the DMZ. From its high ground positions, Syria would fire at those advancing, and, adopting a new policy, retaliated for Israeli fire at Syrian military positions by firing on civilian settlements in the Hula Valley. Israel would retaliate with raids on Syrian positions, including the use of air power. U.N. officials blamed both Israel and Syria for destabilizing the borders.
But on the subject of hating Israel, when reading your posts, I ask myself, "How can anyone not hate Israel?" I have come to the conclusion, after seeing you spew hate 24/7, that you are someone who is truly worth hating.
I see that you have modified and corrected your one-sided position of entitlement maintaining the Arabs/moslems as non aggressors when of course, they were.
You just hate being corrected.
No it's not. That's what the law is for. It's set up to settle disputes peacefully. Because no one wants a repeat of WWII. Except you guys.That's both naïve and stupid in view of the circumstances.
Oh, shut-up!Oh my. Aren't you the internet tough guy.
It has nothing to do with religion.It has everything to do with religion.
No, they do, after you bombed their building into rubble.You live under a rock, right?
Why do you say things for no reason?Why do you hate Jews?
Because that's the level of understanding your grey matter will take you.I find the majority of your comments stupendpusly stupid.
See what I mean? I never said entirety. Your hatred, drives their hatred. The difference being, your hatred is a matter of choice. Their hatred is a matter of survival.Really. The entirety of the hatreds that drive islamist terrorism are my fault?
It seems there isn't a single post of mine you intend to comment on, without tweaking what I said in order to fit your response. Like slipping in that "entirety" comment, when I never said such a thing.That makes no sense. But coming from you, expected.
There you go again, trying to tweak what I said. I never said the arabs were "non-aggressors". But I do understand why you felt the need to slip it in there, so your response would have a little more punch to it.I see that you have modified and corrected your one-sided position of entitlement maintaining the Arabs/moslems as non aggressors when of course, they were.
I don't hate being corrected. And I wouldn't be patting yourself on the back just yet, because you didn't correct me. I didn't disagree with your comments on Nassar, I stated there was more to it than that. Afterwards, I did a little more research to find out for myself and found your comments on him to be accurate.You just hate being corrected.
People who participated in such a preemptive attack, militarily or politically or as informed close-in observers, or political opponents of the party directing the war, sometimes rethink their positions, years after the event, with the luxury of time and distance and in the midst of the very safety which they or their political adversaries helped to create.More uncomfortable facts for Zionists to confront.
And name calling and personal insults change none of these facts, either.
The 1967 war was started by Israel and was not defensive.
The Origin of the Palestine-Israel Conflict
By*Jews for Justice in the Middle East
Published in Berkeley, CA, 2001
"Jews for Justice has made this excellent resource available to people around the world..."
The Origin of the Palestine-Israel Conflict
"The former Commander of the Air Force, General Ezer Weitzman, regarded as a hawk, stated that there was ‘no threat of destruction’ but that the attack on Egypt, Jordan and Syria was nevertheless justified so that Israel could ‘exist according the scale, spirit, and quality she now embodies.’...Menahem Begin had the following remarks to make: ‘In June 1967, we again had a choice. The Egyptian Army concentrations in the Sinai approaches do not prove that Nasser was really about to attack us. We must be honest with ourselves. We decided to attack him.’“*Noam Chomsky, “The Fateful Triangle.”"
Probability is extremely high that had the Israelis not preemptively attacked and neutralized or pruned-back Arab air-assets on June 5, 1967, Israel would have fallen in June 1967, and not exist today.Nothing changes the fact that preemptive strikes/attacks are not lawful under international law. It does not matter how badly warmongers keep striving to explain or justify the unlawful attacks, the attacks by Israel on Egypt in 1967 that started the 6 day war remain unlawful attack under international law. Warmongers will be warmongers!