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JUDE 1
3. Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints.
4. For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.
5. I will therefore put you in remembrance, though ye once knew this, how that the Lord, having saved the people out of the land of Egypt, afterward destroyed them that believed not...
..7. Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire...
...14. And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints,
15. To execute judgment upon all, and to convince all that are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly committed, and of all their hard speeches which ungodly sinners have spoken against him.
16. These are murmurers, complainers, walking after their own lusts; and their mouth speaketh great swelling words, having men's persons in admiration because of advantage.
17. But, beloved, remember ye the words which were spoken before of the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ;
18. How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts.
19. These be they who separate themselves, sensual, having not the Spirit.
20. But ye, beloved, building up yourselves on your most holy faith, praying in the Holy Ghost,
21. Keep yourselves in the love of God, looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life.
22. And of some have compassion, making a difference:
23. And others save with fear, pulling them out of the fire; hating even the garment spotted by the flesh.
24. Now unto him that is able to keep you from falling, and to present you faultless before the presence of his glory with exceeding joy..
ROMANS 1
22. Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
23. And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.
24. Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:
25. Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
26. For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
27. And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
28. And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
29. Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,
30. Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,
31. Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:
32. Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.
So getting more specific about the crime of homosexuality and how much it pisses God off... Jude 1 says that God will condemn those who enable homosexuality to the same pit of fire if they do not "earnestly contend" for the "common salvation".
Romans 1 says at the very end there that not only will the gays go down to the pit, but also those who "have pleasure in them that do". ie: if you smile upon this new LGBT fad and support it with your vote, your on-board assistance, your arguments, your judicial decision and smooth speech, you're going to the Pit with those already damned.
That's not an ambiguous decree to christians. Nor is it a diet sin, a venial matter. It's the hard core stuff that is one and the same as completely abandoning your faith. That's where it takes a giant leap into 1st Amendment territory..
I'm opening with Jude 1 and Romans 1 because it paints an interesting and very pivotal crisis for at least one Supreme Court Justice. Sotomayor's position is metaphorical. And this is what this thread is about: the metaphorical meeting of two worlds: Secular and spiritual...and what that meeting could potentially do to not just Sotomayor, but by extension, any person caught between such a rock and a hard place.
The Rock:
The rock is that Sotomayor, presumably, as many are, is a practicing christian. Most likely a catholic. But it doesn't matter because the Bible is all that is relevent here. But she is also a Supreme Court Justice, a judge, a person who is supposed to shelve personal biases and blindly dispense justice as logical argument dictates she should.
Problem is, Sotomayer hasn't most recently displayed a lack of bias. Kicking it up can-can style at New Year's Eve this year at Times Square with Miley Cyrus as her opening act was a supreme court justice stepping out of character and job description to conspicuously advertise her "fun loving side" at a street bacchanal displayed worldwide to hundreds of millions of viewers...during a year when questions of base human behaviors vs virtuous ones, such as the question of gay marriage in Utah, are slated to be heard by her.
So we have a Justice who is almost certainly biased against Utah's moral objections to being forced to assimiliate a homosexual culture into the bedrock [marriage/the nuclear family] of its statehood, of any statehood really. Nevermind that her forcing Utah to assimilate a homsexual culture into the deepest layers of its social fabric is the same as condemning millions of christians or mormon-christians to an eternity in the pit of fire.
no pressure...
The Hard Place:
The hard place for Sotomayor, and others like her in extreme positions of power to affect the outcome of events in the lives of 100s of millions of the faithful is this: Their assistance in hog-tying free speech and protest to the homosexual cult known as LGBT is probably one of the worst sins since the dawn of time that any human could commit. It would be better for Sotomayor et al's souls to go on a murder spree than it would to force homosexuality on christians and force christians to abide by, enable and abet the spread of this cult. Because say if Sotomayor were to kill a couple dozen people before she was caught, shed' have those couple dozen murders to do penance for. But this is much, much worse. When she votes to deny Utah the right to turn away those worshippers of Harvey Milk and she opens up Utah's orphans to these people seeking to adopt them with a legal shoehorn of marriage then in place firmly and irrevokably, what type of life is she opening up thousands of children to over time?
A better question would be what type of matrix is she going to usher in for future generations to be stamped by? The answer to that rhetorical question is: one that is in abject defiance to the design of God, her faith, in the most significant way a christian could be a heretic. In other words her actions will be equivalent to God playing God with God's design. She will be destroying God's design by not just fostering compassion for LGBTers [for that is what she will undoubtedly justify her actions to herself as in the wee hours of the night], but instead by ushering in conditions of legal manipulation wherein a new religion will replace the old one. The new religion of course is "anything goes sexually"...followed at a distant point, perhaps 3 or 4 generations by "anything goes at all" or a more familiar rendition of that last one "do as thou whilst shall be the whole of the law"...or "might makes right" ...or "the end of democracy and all that the US stood for"... Deep inside herself, as in all of you reading this, you know this is the case.
Bear in mind that this isn't a question of "compassion for a class of people". This is a question of if behaviors are equivalent to race or gender.
There is another residual outfall of this that will be felt in the short term when Sotomayor casts the pivotal vote [for any vote in SCOTUS is pivotal should it add weight to the majority]. It is the setting of the first precedent in US History where behaviors were elevated to a class status outside of federally-recognized religion. Gays were not "born that way". Gays are made the way they are. But Sotomayor will likely ignore all science that shows how many gays were molested as kids, how molestation is cyclical as found by the Mayo Clinic. How victims of molestation often grow up to be hypersexual compulsives who molest kids themselves. How the number of homosexual molestors is hugely disproportionate per capita vs their hetero counterparts...
Sotomayor will ignore all this and likely render an emotional decision devoid of facts. I mean, just look at the picture here in this post. It kind of says it all, doesn't it? This is a Justice, like many of us, who is walking through life not taking her work seriously. She is not fully appreciating the gravity of her assignment here, her job, her task. And so often the worst sins are committed under the very best intentions, or under a lighthearted frivolity or disregard. Nonchalance or dismissal in our decisions that seem so well-intentioned, so innocent, can snowball out of control when we fail to recognize the mechanics of someone or something that is clamoring for our participation in facilitating what upon closer examination is nothing but a wolf in sheep's clothing.
The passages in Jude 1 and Romans 1 are going to create a schism in Sonya Sotomayor. Or at least they should. She will wake up one day this year, put on her robe and walk into that Courtroom with the weight of humanity itself on her shoulders. Will she find for a secular fad at the expense of the final death of christianity in the Western world? Or will she allow the people of each state to search their own consciences and determine that instead for themselves?
Behavior vs race. That will be the quesiton at the very least that Ms. Sotomayor must consider. That and unravelling the entire man/woman plan of God with one bang of her gavel.
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