MLB is rigging games, unlike Pete Rose

[Votto]

As we all know, MLB banned Pete Rose from the game of baseball for betting on his own team to win, something he was supposed to do anyway. They even include Pete in the same breath as the Black Sox that actually rigged a game to lose as those players were also reinstated despite losing on purpose to benefit financially from mobsters.. Ironically enough, the Black Sox in 1919 threw the World Series to the Cincinnati Reds which ended up being their first World Series win. How is Pete even comparable to the Black Sox? Pete was not rigging any games. He just wanted to profit a bit from trying to win.

But MLB is rigging games themselves by allowing Big market teams like the Yankees to spend more on their bull pen than most teams spend on their entire team and thus dominating all of baseball indefinitely. Conversely, the NFL has price caps to prevent this, thus allowing for more parity.

Essentially, every year comes down to how the top 5 spending teams in MLB will win yet another World Series. Currently, the Mets look like the odds of favorite spending more money than God has on their team.

But MLB does not care, because they and the media make the most money off the big market teams with the most money and people buying their merchandise and tuning in to watch. The only people left in the cold are fans of small market teams.

At a bare minimum, MLB should restructure the divisions to at least acknowledge this discrepancy, but putting the small market teams in the same division with each other and the big market teams in their own division. Then in a short series during the playoffs, anything can happen even though one team should win on paper.

 

[martybegan]

As we all know, MLB banned Pete Rose from the game of baseball for betting on his own team to win, something he was supposed to do anyway. They even include Pete in the same breath as the Black Sox that actually rigged a game to lose as those players were also reinstated despite losing on purpose to benefit financially from mobsters.. Ironically enough, the Black Sox in 1919 threw the World Series to the Cincinnati Reds which ended up being their first World Series win. How is Pete even comparable to the Black Sox? Pete was not rigging any games. He just wanted to profit a bit from trying to win.

But MLB is rigging games themselves by allowing Big market teams like the Yankees to spend more on their bull pen than most teams spend on their entire team and thus dominating all of baseball indefinitely. Conversely, the NFL has price caps to prevent this, thus allowing for more parity.

Essentially, every year comes down to how the top 5 spending teams in MLB will win yet another World Series. Currently, the Mets look like the odds of favorite spending more money than God has on their team.

But MLB does not care, because they and the media make the most money off the big market teams with the most money and people buying their merchandise and tuning in to watch. The only people left in the cold are fans of small market teams.

At a bare minimum, MLB should restructure the divisions to at least acknowledge this discrepancy, but putting the small market teams in the same division with each other and the big market teams in their own division. Then in a short series during the playoffs, anything can happen even though one team should win on paper.

The MLB itself has wanted a salary cap for decades, it's the players that don't want a salary cap.

 

[Manonthestreet]

yanks aren't doing terrific

 

[Meathead]

The MLB itself has wanted a salary cap for decades, it's the players that don't want a salary cap.

MLB has a progressive penalty for teams that pass a payroll threshold. But yeah, the disparity leads some team from bigger markets to build better teams.

 

[Mack The Finger]

Pete Rose broke my heart and all you cheese eaters don't even care.

 

[Harry Dresden]

yanks aren't doing terrific

they are in first place.....

 

[Harry Dresden]

Pete Rose broke my heart and all you cheese eaters don't even care.

did he break it off with you?....

 

[Votto]

The MLB itself has wanted a salary cap for decades, it's the players that don't want a salary cap.

So, the baseball union is rigging all the games?

Understood.

I still say that the owners could care less. What do they care? They agreed to rig the games for the almighty dollar.

 

[Votto]

yanks aren't doing terrific

If you take the top 15 teams in payroll in MLB, you will find about 5 or so who don't have a winning record

And if you take the bottom 15, you will find about 5 or so with a winning record

Spending money on a team does not guarantee you win, but odds are you will win.

It's like going to a gambling casino. You might win some money here or there, but the longer you play the more likely they will take all our money because of the odds.

MLB is a long season with so many games the odds usually always favor those who should win on paper.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

As we all know, MLB banned Pete Rose from the game of baseball for betting on his own team to win, something he was supposed to do anyway. They even include Pete in the same breath as the Black Sox that actually rigged a game to lose as those players were also reinstated despite losing on purpose to benefit financially from mobsters.. Ironically enough, the Black Sox in 1919 threw the World Series to the Cincinnati Reds which ended up being their first World Series win. How is Pete even comparable to the Black Sox? Pete was not rigging any games. He just wanted to profit a bit from trying to win.

But MLB is rigging games themselves by allowing Big market teams like the Yankees to spend more on their bull pen than most teams spend on their entire team and thus dominating all of baseball indefinitely. Conversely, the NFL has price caps to prevent this, thus allowing for more parity.

Essentially, every year comes down to how the top 5 spending teams in MLB will win yet another World Series. Currently, the Mets look like the odds of favorite spending more money than God has on their team.

But MLB does not care, because they and the media make the most money off the big market teams with the most money and people buying their merchandise and tuning in to watch. The only people left in the cold are fans of small market teams.

At a bare minimum, MLB should restructure the divisions to at least acknowledge this discrepancy, but putting the small market teams in the same division with each other and the big market teams in their own division. Then in a short series during the playoffs, anything can happen even though one team should win on paper.

I’ve been making this point about MLB ever since the ‘94 strike. Almost every Sunday night, ESPN featured the Red Sox and/or the Yankees for ratings and revenue.
They should create more teams in the big markets instead of trying salary caps or any of that other crap. Between Boston, Philly and NY, there used to be seven franchises. Now those areas have doubled in size and there are only four. But since the big market teams have consequently greater viewership, the problem is self-perpetuating.

 

[Votto]

I’ve been making this point about MLB ever since the ‘94 strike. Almost every Sunday night, ESPN featured the Red Sox and/or the Yankees for ratings and revenue.
They should create more teams in the big markets instead of trying salary caps or any of that other crap. Between Boston, Philly and NY, there used to be seven franchises. Now those areas have doubled in size and there are only four. But since the big market teams have consequently larger markets, the problem is self-perpetuating.

Maybe all the teams should move to New York or California.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

Maybe all the teams should move to New York or California.

Why? Just divide the larger markets with more teams.

 

[martybegan]

So, the baseball union is rigging all the games?

Understood.

I still say that the owners could care less. What do they care? They agreed to rig the games for the almighty dollar.

The Union is preventing a hard salary cap from happening, which usually also includes a salary floor as well.

A salary cap and floor is the only solution to the problem.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

The Union is preventing a hard salary cap from happening, which usually also includes a salary floor as well.

A salary cap and floor is the only solution to the problem.

Why punish the players? More teams in large markets is the answer.
But MLB likes the guarantee large-market teams bring.

 

[martybegan]

Why punish the players? More teams in large markets is the answer.
But MLB likes the guarantee large-market teams bring.

The players will still make plenty of money.


The other big 3 sports all run under some form of a cap.

 

[apolitical]

It's funny how Joe Sixpack rails on the players, but says very little about the owners. If the players don't get the money, then the owners get it. It's the millionaires versus the billionaires.

 

[apolitical]

Parity in any sport sucks. It's boring. I think it's more fun to have a dominant team to root against.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

The players will still make plenty of money.


The other big 3 sports all run under some form of a cap.

They don’t have the same dynamic as baseball. Football has attrition issues and rules to enhance QB dominance while the other sports can similarly be impacted significantly by one player.
Baseball can’t live off of one pitcher.
And why punish the players? They play the games and should demand what they deserve.

 

[apolitical]

The research I've seen shows that big money leads to better outcomes, but there are still too many other variables in winning it all. The Dodgers are 8-12 all-time in WS play. The Mets have won just twice in their 60+ year history. Both Chicago teams suck ballz; however--and I hate to say it--the Cubs have the best fans and best park by far.

The Yanks have 27 WS wins because they are smarter. Steinbrenner paid his players because he knew some other owner would just grab them. LA (formerly Brooklyn) played in the same big market as the Yanks, and look at the comparison. Dodgers are crap in WS play. And the Yanks perennially had their number.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

The research I've seen shows that big money leads to better outcomes, but there are still too many other variables in winning it all. The Dodgers are 8-12 all-time in WS play. The Mets have won just twice in their 60+ year history. Both Chicago teams suck ballz; however--and I hate to say it--the Cubs have the best fans and best park by far.

The Yanks have 27 WS wins because they are smarter. Steinbrenner paid his players because he knew some other owner would just grab them. LA (formerly Brooklyn) played in the same big market as the Yanks, and look at the comparison. Dodgers are crap in WS play. And the Yanks perennially had their number.

If you look at things from ‘94-on, you’ll see the same big-market teams making the playoffs every year. The Red Sox went 80-plus years between WS as did the Cubs but look at how often both have been in the post-season since 1994.