Miss Michigan Stripped of her Crown

[miketx]

...while neglecting to mention that these same immigrants are contributing billions more than what they're receiving in government services...

Who told you this? The vast majority of the illegal immigrants that come to America are utterly broke. Illegals get free medical care at our emergency rooms, well, it's not free because the cost of that care is passed on to Americans who actually pay for their own insurance. Illegals fill our classrooms with their children and pay nothing. Illegals fill our jails and prisons, which costs us more money. Illegals get free criminal attorneys, again, at our expense. Illegals prey on and victimize tax-paying, American citizens. It sounds like you've been duped by your liberal masters - again.

Illegals pay 15% withholding taxes like everyone else, but cannot apply for government funded health insurance or SS. They pay property taxes through their rent, thus funding their children’s education. They also pay sales and value added taxes, gas and cigarette taxes. And they contribute generally to the economy through their labour being added to GDP and the jobs created by their consumer spending.

I have seen studies that say that even illegals contribute more to the economy then they take out in government services. The Federal government on both sides of the political aisle has used their withholding tax to prop up Social Security and Medicare, since Bush Sr. was in office.

If you could wave a magic wand and all illegal immigrants disappeared overnight, US GDP would contract by 10% and the number of job vacancies in America would go from 7 million to 15 million. Given that there are only 4 million people looking for work now, this is going to create huge problems for employers.

Of course many of these low end service jobs won’t need to be replaced because there would be 11 million people no longer buying consumer goods and services in communities all over America.

Bullshit.

 

[toobfreak]

I think that is what your fake messiah is trying to do with the news media. And anybody that criticize him.

Miss Michigan lost her gig because she has right leaning opinions. Your answer to that is waaah "your fake messiah" sasses back to news media!

Miss Michigan lost her title for posting racist tropes. Spokesmodels are not hired for their politics. The promoters for hiring her to promote their products not her politics. Beauty pageants are not a political platform.

She posted statistics. Show us the "racist tropes". Are you saying that spokesmodels are not allowed to have social media accounts?

She did not post statistics

Uh huh. Still waiting on those "racist tropes".

Still waiting on that answer I bet? RW is just a jive talking bomb thrower.

 

[thanatos144]

Spoken just like a leftist lemming. Facts regarding race and the Trump presidency in particular say otherwise, but their Democratic handlers don't like them to think for themselves.

I would agree... facts about Trump and Race speak for themselves.

He was fined in the 1970's for discriminatory housing practices.
He called for the execution of 5 innocent black children
He has opened concentration camps for people of color.
He has made racist comments about women of color in Congress.

Trump truly speaks for himself. Why you guys on the right remain in denial is the real question.

What a crock of bull.

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Donald Trump is, and has always been, a racist.

Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

He's the son of a KKK leader, and it shows in everything he has ever said about race. He's never attacked a white politician by calling them "Low I.Q". Sanders and Warrens are socialists. He doesn't tell them to "Go back where they came from".

Trump is a racist. We're done dancing around this issue. Racist, misogynist, fuelled by hate. People are done with Cheeto Don.

Bull. I know this because he doesn't care about skin color like all you lefties

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[thanatos144]

Uh huh. Still waiting on those "racist tropes".

Like blacks are killing themselves
Or Muslim women are subjugated by wearing a hijab

Mention of blacks or Muslims does not mean it is racist. Just because you see everything through a racist lens doesn't make people you disagree with racist.

She didn’t mention them....she was demeaning and condescending

Actually no she wasn't. First she quoted actual stats about black crime and second refused to have a hijab put on her head by force. I understand that to you freedom is a foreign idea

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Unsupported by any of her postings that were released
She provided no actual stats and when challenged said....look it up yourself

It was not that she refused to wear one but that she demeaned those who do

Except for her actual tweets you dishonest hack

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[thanatos144]

You can blame this on tRump as well. His racism and hatred have created the fear that all conservatives are racist and hateful causing people and organizations to cut ties at the slightest hint someone might be about to go off on a tRump style racist social media rant. Better safe than sorry.

So lowest black unemployment ever is racist?

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You deflect because you cannot refute.

He isn't a racist. End of story. It is you lefties that are wrapped up in using race as a deciding factor in all things.

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[lennypartiv]

Donald Trump is, and has always been, a racist.

Why do you liberals get to decide what is racist?

 

[WEATHER53]

Donald Trump is, and has always been, a racist.

Why do you liberals get to decide what is racist?

It makes them feel better.

 

[Vandalshandle]

...while neglecting to mention that these same immigrants are contributing billions more than what they're receiving in government services...

Who told you this? The vast majority of the illegal immigrants that come to America are utterly broke. Illegals get free medical care at our emergency rooms, well, it's not free because the cost of that care is passed on to Americans who actually pay for their own insurance. Illegals fill our classrooms with their children and pay nothing. Illegals fill our jails and prisons, which costs us more money. Illegals get free criminal attorneys, again, at our expense. Illegals prey on and victimize tax-paying, American citizens. It sounds like you've been duped by your liberal masters - again.

Illegals pay 15% withholding taxes like everyone else, but cannot apply for government funded health insurance or SS. They pay property taxes through their rent, thus funding their children’s education. They also pay sales and value added taxes, gas and cigarette taxes. And they contribute generally to the economy through their labour being added to GDP and the jobs created by their consumer spending.

If you could wave a magic wand and all illegal immigrants disappeared overnight, US GDP would contract by 10% and the number of job vacancies in America would go from 7 million to 15 million. Given that there are only 4 million looking for work now, this is going to create huge problems for employers.

Of course many of these jobs won’t need to be replaced because there would be 11 million people no longer buying consumer goods and services.

23 MILLION illegals in America (and growing) is a net loss for America. If illegal immigration was economically beneficial, California wouldn't have the highest poverty rate in the U.S. You're parroting liberal lies.

Are you sure it isn't 50 million?

 

[Vandalshandle]

You can blame this on tRump as well. His racism and hatred have created the fear that all conservatives are racist and hateful causing people and organizations to cut ties at the slightest hint someone might be about to go off on a tRump style racist social media rant. Better safe than sorry.

So lowest black unemployment ever is racist?

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You deflect because you cannot refute.

He isn't a racist. End of story. It is you lefties that are wrapped up in using race as a deciding factor in all things.

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Neither was George Wallace. He was just in a bad mood for 50 years.

 

[Crepitus]

Not a damn thing to do with free speech. She can say what she wants, just not from their pedestal.

What they objected to was not said on their pedestal.

If she's wearing their crown she's on their pedestal.

She won the crown. Once she's wearing it, they went through her social media and judged her unworthy and took her crown away. The reason given is It has been brought to the attention of Miss World America that your social media accounts contain offensive, insensitive and inappropriate content, and in violation of MWA's Rules and Conditions, specifically the contestant requirement of 'being of good character and whose background is not likely to bring into disrepute Miss World America or any person associated with the organisation'.

They don't specify what is so inappropriate about her words. Apparently, quoting statistics "insensitive". You're OK with that?

You (and she) should remember that nothing you post online ever goes away. It's a private organization, no laws were broken, no rights violated. If you don't like it feel free to not support them. Of enough people do the same, they will cease to be relevant.

I'm really surprised at how many conservatives are upset by this, considering all most all of them wanted the NFL to fire the kneelers.

Sure. The trouble is, people being punished for their opinions seems to be happening more and more. I find it to be an alarming trend. I am for free speech for everybody.

Me too.

But as I already noted companies and organizations are getting gun shy. They'd rather cut ties than take the risk.

 

[Crepitus]

You can blame this on tRump as well. His racism and hatred have created the fear that all conservatives are racist and hateful causing people and organizations to cut ties at the slightest hint someone might be about to go off on a tRump style racist social media rant. Better safe than sorry.

So lowest black unemployment ever is racist?

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You deflect because you cannot refute.

He isn't a racist. End of story. It is you lefties that are wrapped up in using race as a deciding factor in all things.

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Lol, he is. And he's proved it over and over.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

They are mostly run by progressive nitwits.

Progressives mock beauty pageants
It is conservatives who want their daughters to grow up to be a beauty queen

Yet they run them, or at least have the political influence over them.

The progressives that hate pageants are the same ones your side is shaming because they won't go for the whole Tran thing.

Sure they do

Is Trump a progressive?

No. He is sane.

Actually, he is a stable genius

I am? Thx

 

[Dragonlady]

What they objected to was not said on their pedestal.

If she's wearing their crown she's on their pedestal.

She won the crown. Once she's wearing it, they went through her social media and judged her unworthy and took her crown away. The reason given is It has been brought to the attention of Miss World America that your social media accounts contain offensive, insensitive and inappropriate content, and in violation of MWA's Rules and Conditions, specifically the contestant requirement of 'being of good character and whose background is not likely to bring into disrepute Miss World America or any person associated with the organisation'.

They don't specify what is so inappropriate about her words. Apparently, quoting statistics "insensitive". You're OK with that?

You (and she) should remember that nothing you post online ever goes away. It's a private organization, no laws were broken, no rights violated. If you don't like it feel free to not support them. Of enough people do the same, they will cease to be relevant.

I'm really surprised at how many conservatives are upset by this, considering all most all of them wanted the NFL to fire the kneelers.

Sure. The trouble is, people being punished for their opinions seems to be happening more and more. I find it to be an alarming trend. I am for free speech for everybody.

Me too.

But as I already noted companies and organizations are getting gun shy. They'd rather cut ties than take the risk.

Well she lied and mislead people in her posts, in saying that black on black murder is only a black problem, so there is that.

I don't have a problem with free speech, but I have a problem with hate speech, especially when the hater uses lies and misleads people about the "others", they're railing against.

Donald Trump didn't attack the Squad because of their policies. He didn't even attack them because they're socialists. He attacked them because of their race, their ethnicity, and "where they came from". He didn't once mention their policies, or the fact that millions of Americans voted for these women to REPRESENT THEM IN CONGRESS. He says these women have no right to tell Americans how "our goverment" is run.

So interesting to see “Progressive” Democrat Congresswomen, who originally came from countries whose governments are a complete and total catastrophe, the worst, most corrupt and inept anywhere in the world (if they even have a functioning government at all), now loudly......and viciously telling the people of the United States, the greatest and most powerful Nation on earth, how our government is to be run. Why don’t they go back and help fix the totally broken and crime infested places from which they came. Then come back and show us how ..it is done. These places need your help badly, you can’t leave fast enough. I’m sure that Nancy Pelosi would be very happy to quickly work out free travel arrangements!

He didn't call them socialists, or criticize the policies they espouse. He acted like these women had no right to criticize the government, and that if they didn, they should "go back where you came from". Like these women have no first amendment rights, no rights under the Constitutions, and no rights as duly elected members of Congress". They're not even part of "our government".

When you attack someone on the basis of the race, creed or ethnicity and for no other reason, it is the very definition of racism.

 

[K9Buck]

...while neglecting to mention that these same immigrants are contributing billions more than what they're receiving in government services...

Who told you this? The vast majority of the illegal immigrants that come to America are utterly broke. Illegals get free medical care at our emergency rooms, well, it's not free because the cost of that care is passed on to Americans who actually pay for their own insurance. Illegals fill our classrooms with their children and pay nothing. Illegals fill our jails and prisons, which costs us more money. Illegals get free criminal attorneys, again, at our expense. Illegals prey on and victimize tax-paying, American citizens. It sounds like you've been duped by your liberal masters - again.

Illegals pay 15% withholding taxes like everyone else, but cannot apply for government funded health insurance or SS. They pay property taxes through their rent, thus funding their children’s education. They also pay sales and value added taxes, gas and cigarette taxes. And they contribute generally to the economy through their labour being added to GDP and the jobs created by their consumer spending.

If you could wave a magic wand and all illegal immigrants disappeared overnight, US GDP would contract by 10% and the number of job vacancies in America would go from 7 million to 15 million. Given that there are only 4 million looking for work now, this is going to create huge problems for employers.

Of course many of these jobs won’t need to be replaced because there would be 11 million people no longer buying consumer goods and services.

23 MILLION illegals in America (and growing) is a net loss for America. If illegal immigration was economically beneficial, California wouldn't have the highest poverty rate in the U.S. You're parroting liberal lies.

Are you sure it isn't 50 million?

A joint MIT-Yale study put the number at 23 million.

 

[Vandalshandle]

...while neglecting to mention that these same immigrants are contributing billions more than what they're receiving in government services...

Who told you this? The vast majority of the illegal immigrants that come to America are utterly broke. Illegals get free medical care at our emergency rooms, well, it's not free because the cost of that care is passed on to Americans who actually pay for their own insurance. Illegals fill our classrooms with their children and pay nothing. Illegals fill our jails and prisons, which costs us more money. Illegals get free criminal attorneys, again, at our expense. Illegals prey on and victimize tax-paying, American citizens. It sounds like you've been duped by your liberal masters - again.

Illegals pay 15% withholding taxes like everyone else, but cannot apply for government funded health insurance or SS. They pay property taxes through their rent, thus funding their children’s education. They also pay sales and value added taxes, gas and cigarette taxes. And they contribute generally to the economy through their labour being added to GDP and the jobs created by their consumer spending.

If you could wave a magic wand and all illegal immigrants disappeared overnight, US GDP would contract by 10% and the number of job vacancies in America would go from 7 million to 15 million. Given that there are only 4 million looking for work now, this is going to create huge problems for employers.

Of course many of these jobs won’t need to be replaced because there would be 11 million people no longer buying consumer goods and services.

23 MILLION illegals in America (and growing) is a net loss for America. If illegal immigration was economically beneficial, California wouldn't have the highest poverty rate in the U.S. You're parroting liberal lies.

Are you sure it isn't 50 million?

A joint MIT-Yale study put the number at 23 million.

You have no link. of course, but that is alight. I read on an obscure RW blog that the correct number of illegal aliens is 53,686,903, all of whom voted for Hillary.

 

[K9Buck]

Who told you this? The vast majority of the illegal immigrants that come to America are utterly broke. Illegals get free medical care at our emergency rooms, well, it's not free because the cost of that care is passed on to Americans who actually pay for their own insurance. Illegals fill our classrooms with their children and pay nothing. Illegals fill our jails and prisons, which costs us more money. Illegals get free criminal attorneys, again, at our expense. Illegals prey on and victimize tax-paying, American citizens. It sounds like you've been duped by your liberal masters - again.

Illegals pay 15% withholding taxes like everyone else, but cannot apply for government funded health insurance or SS. They pay property taxes through their rent, thus funding their children’s education. They also pay sales and value added taxes, gas and cigarette taxes. And they contribute generally to the economy through their labour being added to GDP and the jobs created by their consumer spending.

If you could wave a magic wand and all illegal immigrants disappeared overnight, US GDP would contract by 10% and the number of job vacancies in America would go from 7 million to 15 million. Given that there are only 4 million looking for work now, this is going to create huge problems for employers.

Of course many of these jobs won’t need to be replaced because there would be 11 million people no longer buying consumer goods and services.

23 MILLION illegals in America (and growing) is a net loss for America. If illegal immigration was economically beneficial, California wouldn't have the highest poverty rate in the U.S. You're parroting liberal lies.

Are you sure it isn't 50 million?

A joint MIT-Yale study put the number at 23 million.

You have no link. of course, but that is alight. I read on an obscure RW blog that the correct number of illegal aliens is 53,686,903, all of whom voted for Hillary.

You wouldn't read the link or understand it anyway. You're a liar and a creep.

 

[miketx]

If she's wearing their crown she's on their pedestal.

She won the crown. Once she's wearing it, they went through her social media and judged her unworthy and took her crown away. The reason given is It has been brought to the attention of Miss World America that your social media accounts contain offensive, insensitive and inappropriate content, and in violation of MWA's Rules and Conditions, specifically the contestant requirement of 'being of good character and whose background is not likely to bring into disrepute Miss World America or any person associated with the organisation'.

They don't specify what is so inappropriate about her words. Apparently, quoting statistics "insensitive". You're OK with that?

You (and she) should remember that nothing you post online ever goes away. It's a private organization, no laws were broken, no rights violated. If you don't like it feel free to not support them. Of enough people do the same, they will cease to be relevant.

I'm really surprised at how many conservatives are upset by this, considering all most all of them wanted the NFL to fire the kneelers.

Sure. The trouble is, people being punished for their opinions seems to be happening more and more. I find it to be an alarming trend. I am for free speech for everybody.

Me too.

But as I already noted companies and organizations are getting gun shy. They'd rather cut ties than take the risk.

Well she lied and mislead people in her posts, in saying that black on black murder is only a black problem, so there is that.

I don't have a problem with free speech, but I have a problem with hate speech, especially when the hater uses lies and misleads people about the "others", they're railing against.

Donald Trump didn't attack the Squad because of their policies. He didn't even attack them because they're socialists. He attacked them because of their race, their ethnicity, and "where they came from". He didn't once mention their policies, or the fact that millions of Americans voted for these women to REPRESENT THEM IN CONGRESS. He says these women have no right to tell Americans how "our goverment" is run.

So interesting to see “Progressive” Democrat Congresswomen, who originally came from countries whose governments are a complete and total catastrophe, the worst, most corrupt and inept anywhere in the world (if they even have a functioning government at all), now loudly......and viciously telling the people of the United States, the greatest and most powerful Nation on earth, how our government is to be run. Why don’t they go back and help fix the totally broken and crime infested places from which they came. Then come back and show us how ..it is done. These places need your help badly, you can’t leave fast enough. I’m sure that Nancy Pelosi would be very happy to quickly work out free travel arrangements!

He didn't call them socialists, or criticize the policies they espouse. He acted like these women had no right to criticize the government, and that if they didn, they should "go back where you came from". Like these women have no first amendment rights, no rights under the Constitutions, and no rights as duly elected members of Congress". They're not even part of "our government".

When you attack someone on the basis of the race, creed or ethnicity and for no other reason, it is the very definition of racism.

Fantasy.

 

[JoeB131]

She stated facts and statistical support for those facts. Facts don't care about your political dogma.

As Benjamin Disraeli observed, Mendacity comes in three forms- Lies, Damned Lies and statistics.

 

[miketx]

She stated facts and statistical support for those facts. Facts don't care about your political dogma.

As Benjamin Disraeli observed, Mendacity comes in three forms- Lies, Damned Lies and statistics.

Still waiting for your lying ass to prove her racism.

 

[Vandalshandle]

Illegals pay 15% withholding taxes like everyone else, but cannot apply for government funded health insurance or SS. They pay property taxes through their rent, thus funding their children’s education. They also pay sales and value added taxes, gas and cigarette taxes. And they contribute generally to the economy through their labour being added to GDP and the jobs created by their consumer spending.

If you could wave a magic wand and all illegal immigrants disappeared overnight, US GDP would contract by 10% and the number of job vacancies in America would go from 7 million to 15 million. Given that there are only 4 million looking for work now, this is going to create huge problems for employers.

Of course many of these jobs won’t need to be replaced because there would be 11 million people no longer buying consumer goods and services.

23 MILLION illegals in America (and growing) is a net loss for America. If illegal immigration was economically beneficial, California wouldn't have the highest poverty rate in the U.S. You're parroting liberal lies.

Are you sure it isn't 50 million?

A joint MIT-Yale study put the number at 23 million.

You have no link. of course, but that is alight. I read on an obscure RW blog that the correct number of illegal aliens is 53,686,903, all of whom voted for Hillary.

You wouldn't read the link or understand it anyway. You're a liar and a creep.