Mike Explodes With Caller Defending Israel

Susan, any second thoughts about who is controlling the media?

Why is it, that when I look at the media, there are thousands of views, from the highest levels of main stream media, to some crack pot with a web cam, on 12 radio stations... most people have never heard of him, and most never will....

And you can get views from every different perspective possible, and every ideology, and every cultural view point...

But then.... there's always people saying "see who is controlling the media?".

No one is controlling the media. The fact is, most people hate the Jews. They have throughout history, and is true up till this day. If you read the prophesies in your own Judaism, it says most people will hate the Jews.

There are many supporters of Israel in the media, but again most are not. This has always been the case. Nothing has changed.

If you read the prophesies in your own Judaism, it says most people will hate the Jews.

Well their prophesies don't mean anything, but they brought it on themselves , self fulfilled prophecy. They hated everyone so natch, every one hated them.
That's a very stupid post Penelope.
There is no such prophecy, we already discussed your Judaism knowledge haven't we?

No Daniyel nothing stupid here, self fulfilled prophecy. When you hate everyone and think your better than everyone people will not like you much.

Based on what, do you claim that all Jews think they are better than everyone else?

No, they just THINK they are.
Based on WHAT dummy :gives:
 
Beelzebub, et al,

Well, this might be arguable if it were my word, or my assignment of the descriptor. But in point of fact, it is not.

First, I think that anyone that attempts to justify Jihadist activity, is violating the various prohibitions on "incitement to violence."
'Jihadist' is just a word you apply, like 'terrorism' to things you don't like.
I expect in your world, you have 'Jihadist' sandwiches, which you really wish your wife would not make.
(COMMENT)

You see it was:
  • HAMAS, that was the first to self describe their works and activities as "Jihadist."
    • The Covenant of the Islamic Resistance Movement (HAMAS) 18 August 1988
    • Senior Hamas Official: The Resistance Is Entitled To Attack Israel's Embassies, (2013) Interests, And Officials Worldwide – And The Interests Of Its Allies, Headed By The U.S. MEMRI -
    • Khaled Meshal, Hamas' "political" leader who is touted as being more moderate than his colleagues in Gaza, has published a major position paper for Hamas to explain its political positions. (2013)
2. ‘Al-Aqsa Martyrs’ Brigade’.
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3.‘Al-Aqsa e.V.’
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4.‘Al-Takfir’ and ‘Al-Hijra’.
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9.‘Hamas’, including ‘Hamas-Izz al-Din al-Qassem’.
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10.
‘Hizballah Military Wing’ (a.k.a. ‘Hezbollah Military Wing’, a.k.a. ‘Hizbullah Military Wing’, a.k.a. ‘Hizbollah Military Wing’, a.k.a. ‘Hezballah Military Wing’, a.k.a. ‘Hisbollah Military Wing’, a.k.a. ‘Hizbu’llah Military Wing’, a.k.a. ‘Hizb Allah Military Wing’, a.k.a. ‘Jihad Council’ (and all units reporting to it, including the External Security Organisation)).
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19.‘Palestinian Islamic Jihad’ – ‘PIJ’
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20.‘Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine’ – ‘PFLP’.
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21.
‘Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine – General Command’ (a.k.a. ‘PFLP – General Command’).
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Now --- I generally apply the contemporary descriptions, as previously stated, to substantiate the application of these categories of Jihadist, insurgents, and terrorists.

Most Respectfully,
R
 
Most disrespectfully,

You are full of shit Rocco.

Hamas may define words as it likes.
You defining supporters of opposition to Israel as 'part of the HAMAS Jihad" is just utter bollocks to help pretend they are wrong, when they are perfectly correct to oppose your fascism, without reference to either Hamas or Jihad.

You cannot alienate justice by trying to associate it to terrorism, when you have defined terrorism as including honourable methods of resisting despotism.
 
Beelzebub, et al,

I look at it a little differently.

So not only is any move against Israels wishes 'terrorism' these days, but anyone who expresses an opinion with is critical of Israel is now part of not just a Jihad, but a Hamas Jihad.

Rocco,

you do realise that you are sounding quite quite mad, don't you? You mean this in jest, yes?
(COMMENT)

First, I think that anyone that attempts to justify Jihadist activity, is violating the various prohibitions on "incitement to violence."

Mike Mallory and similar media personalities, have this special First Amendment protection which they often use and abuse. But really, in the US, no one wants to get entangled in a First Amendment battle in the courts. That doesn't mean that what media personalities like Mallory do is right or proper. It only means that they are able to do in the US what they would not be able to do in the Middle East.

Most Respectfully,
R

It only means that they are able to do in the US what they would not be able to do in the Middle East.

Or it only means that one would be able to do in the US that one would not be able to do in Europe if it concerns the Holocaust. Europeans, please ask yourselves why you are unable to speak your mind concerning anything that you wish to speak your mind of . . . surely you are being controlled by some person, thing or entity. I'm not saying this person, thing or entity is wrong, I'm merely saying that you should fear the inability to speak your mind on any subject. A pox on all those who wish to arrogantly control others as if they knew it all and were wiser than ourselves. . . you dirty, filthy b*st*rds you. ~ Susan


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Beelzebub, et al,

Hummm. And they can define themselves anyway they want.

Most disrespectfully,

You are full of shit Rocco.

Hamas may define words as it likes.
You defining supporters of opposition to Israel as 'part of the HAMAS Jihad" is just utter bollocks to help pretend they are wrong, when they are perfectly correct to oppose your fascism, without reference to either Hamas or Jihad.

You cannot alienate justice by trying to associate it to terrorism, when you have defined terrorism as including honourable methods of resisting despotism.
(COMMENT)

Maybe there are a few perspectives you should consider before you get too high on the "honorable" horse.

There is nothing honorable about engaging in all forms of propaganda, in whatsoever country conducted, which is either designed or likely to provoke or encourage and threat to the peace, breach of the peace, or act of aggression against the sovereignty and people of Israel. [A/RES/2/110]

There is nothing honorable about the HAMAS willful provision or collection, by any means, directly or indirectly, of funds by their nationals or in their territories with the intention that the funds should be used, or in the knowledge that they are to be used, in order to carry out terrorist acts against the sovereignty and people of Israel. [Criminalized by S/RES/1373 (2001)]

There is nothing honorable about the kidnapping for ransom and hostage-taking committed by HAMAS groups and to the consideration of protecting the lives of hostages and those kidnapped. [S/RES/2133 (2014)]

There is nothing honorable about HAMAS organizing, instigating, facilitating, participating in, financing, encouraging or tolerating terrorist activities intended to be committed against Israel and other States --- or their citizens. [A/RES/60/288]

There is nothing honorable about HAMAS using their respective territories for terrorist installations or training camps, or for the preparation or organization of terrorist acts intended to be committed against Israel and other States --- or their citizens. [A/RES/60/288]

There is nothing honorable about HAMAS engaging in indiscriminate rocket and mortar attacks is set forth in Article 51(4) of Additional Protocol I. [Customary IHL Rule 11. Indiscriminate attacks are prohibited.]

There is nothing honorable about HAMAS failing to give effective advance warning of attacks which may affect the civilian population of Israel. [Customary IHL Rule 20. Each party to the conflict must give effective advance warning of attacks which may affect the civilian population, unless circumstances do not permit.]

There is nothing honorable about HAMAS utilizing the presence of a civilian or other protected person to render certain points, areas or military forces immune from Israeli military operations” constitutes a war crime in international armed conflicts. [Customary IHL Rule 97. The use of human shields is prohibited.]

There is nothing honorable about HAMAS ignoring its duty to refrain from any forcible action which deprives peoples referred to in the elaboration of the principle of equal rights and self-determination of their right to self-determination and freedom and independence. [A/RES/25/2625 (1970)]
There is nothing honorable about HAMAS ignoring its duty to refrain from organizing or encouraging the organization of irregular forces or armed bands including mercenaries, for incursion into the territory of Isreal. [A/RES/25/2625 (1970)]

There is nothing honorable about HAMAS ignoring its duty to refrain from the threat or use of force to violate the existing international boundaries of Israel or as a means of solving international disputes, including territorial disputes and problems concerning frontiers of Israel. [A/RES/25/2625 (1970)]

There is nothing honorable about HAMAS ignoring its duty to refrain from the threat or use of force to violate international lines of demarcation, such as armistice lines, established by or pursuant to an international agreement to which it is a party or which it is otherwise bound to respect. [A/RES/25/2625 (1970)]​

In fact, I find very little in what HAMAS does that is in any way, shape, or form, what one can construe as being honorable; Considering it equally essential that HAMAS avoids settling their international disputes, including territorial disputes, by peaceful means in accordance with the Charter.

  • There is no solution for the Palestinian question except through Jihad. Initiatives, proposals and international conferences are all a waste of time and vain endeavors.
  • Initiatives, and so-called peaceful solutions and international conferences, are in contradiction to the principles of the Islamic Resistance Movement.
When someone says that the application of Customary and International Law relative to HAMAS and its activities, is fascism, then I have to wonder, what law (if in deed any law) is not fascist.
  • HAMAS says they are Jihadist.
  • The EU says they are Terrorist.
  • The US Designates them terrorist.
What more would the reasonable and prudent citizen need to consider.

Most Respectfully,
R
 
Most disrespectfully,

You are full of shit Rocco.

Hamas may define words as it likes.
You defining supporters of opposition to Israel as 'part of the HAMAS Jihad" is just utter bollocks to help pretend they are wrong, when they are perfectly correct to oppose your fascism, without reference to either Hamas or Jihad.

You cannot alienate justice by trying to associate it to terrorism, when you have defined terrorism as including honourable methods of resisting despotism.

What a child you are. Rocco responds to everyone in a respectful manner but because you can't handle the truth that he posts you resort to responding in such an immature manner. Pathetic.
 
Beelzebub, et al,

I look at it a little differently.

So not only is any move against Israels wishes 'terrorism' these days, but anyone who expresses an opinion with is critical of Israel is now part of not just a Jihad, but a Hamas Jihad.

Rocco,

you do realise that you are sounding quite quite mad, don't you? You mean this in jest, yes?
(COMMENT)

First, I think that anyone that attempts to justify Jihadist activity, is violating the various prohibitions on "incitement to violence."

Mike Mallory and similar media personalities, have this special First Amendment protection which they often use and abuse. But really, in the US, no one wants to get entangled in a First Amendment battle in the courts. That doesn't mean that what media personalities like Mallory do is right or proper. It only means that they are able to do in the US what they would not be able to do in the Middle East.

Most Respectfully,
R

It only means that they are able to do in the US what they would not be able to do in the Middle East.

Or it only means that one would be able to do in the US that one would not be able to do in Europe if it concerns the Holocaust. Europeans, please ask yourselves why you are unable to speak your mind concerning anything that you wish to speak your mind of . . . surely you are being controlled by some person, thing or entity. I'm not saying this person, thing or entity is wrong, I'm merely saying that you should fear the inability to speak your mind on any subject. A pox on all those who wish to arrogantly control others as if they knew it all and were wiser than ourselves. . . you dirty, filthy b*st*rds you. ~ Susan


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A pox on the NeoNazis. An oldie but dedicated to Pishy. She is still so concerned that her Canadian NeoNazi friend couldn't speak his mind about the Holocaust in Canada so he had to come on an American server to do that. Of course Pishy agrees with her friend saying that no people were ever gassed by the Nazis and wishes he could have got up on his soapbox and yelled it out on a street in Ontario, Canada. By the way, Pishy, did you ever find the picture of your friend standing around with the other NeoNazis? His mustache must tickle the women.
 
Beelzebub, et al,

I look at it a little differently.

So not only is any move against Israels wishes 'terrorism' these days, but anyone who expresses an opinion with is critical of Israel is now part of not just a Jihad, but a Hamas Jihad.

Rocco,

you do realise that you are sounding quite quite mad, don't you? You mean this in jest, yes?
(COMMENT)

First, I think that anyone that attempts to justify Jihadist activity, is violating the various prohibitions on "incitement to violence."

Mike Mallory and similar media personalities, have this special First Amendment protection which they often use and abuse. But really, in the US, no one wants to get entangled in a First Amendment battle in the courts. That doesn't mean that what media personalities like Mallory do is right or proper. It only means that they are able to do in the US what they would not be able to do in the Middle East.

Most Respectfully,
R

It only means that they are able to do in the US what they would not be able to do in the Middle East.

Or it only means that one would be able to do in the US that one would not be able to do in Europe if it concerns the Holocaust. Europeans, please ask yourselves why you are unable to speak your mind concerning anything that you wish to speak your mind of . . . surely you are being controlled by some person, thing or entity. I'm not saying this person, thing or entity is wrong, I'm merely saying that you should fear the inability to speak your mind on any subject. A pox on all those who wish to arrogantly control others as if they knew it all and were wiser than ourselves. . . you dirty, filthy b*st*rds you. ~ Susan


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A pox on the NeoNazis. An oldie but dedicated to Pishy. She is still so concerned that her Canadian NeoNazi friend couldn't speak his mind about the Holocaust in Canada so he had to come on an American server to do that. Of course Pishy agrees with her friend saying that no people were ever gassed by the Nazis and wishes he could have got up on his soapbox and yelled it out on a street in Ontario, Canada. By the way, Pishy, did you ever find the picture of your friend standing around with the other NeoNazis? His mustache must tickle the women.
Forgot to add the link.

Today s Neo-Nazis Have No Respect For Tradition The Onion - America s Finest News Source
 
Beelzebub, et al,

I look at it a little differently.

So not only is any move against Israels wishes 'terrorism' these days, but anyone who expresses an opinion with is critical of Israel is now part of not just a Jihad, but a Hamas Jihad.

Rocco,

you do realise that you are sounding quite quite mad, don't you? You mean this in jest, yes?
(COMMENT)

First, I think that anyone that attempts to justify Jihadist activity, is violating the various prohibitions on "incitement to violence."

Mike Mallory and similar media personalities, have this special First Amendment protection which they often use and abuse. But really, in the US, no one wants to get entangled in a First Amendment battle in the courts. That doesn't mean that what media personalities like Mallory do is right or proper. It only means that they are able to do in the US what they would not be able to do in the Middle East.

Most Respectfully,
R

It only means that they are able to do in the US what they would not be able to do in the Middle East.

Or it only means that one would be able to do in the US that one would not be able to do in Europe if it concerns the Holocaust. Europeans, please ask yourselves why you are unable to speak your mind concerning anything that you wish to speak your mind of . . . surely you are being controlled by some person, thing or entity. I'm not saying this person, thing or entity is wrong, I'm merely saying that you should fear the inability to speak your mind on any subject. A pox on all those who wish to arrogantly control others as if they knew it all and were wiser than ourselves. . . you dirty, filthy b*st*rds you. ~ Susan


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A pox on the NeoNazis. An oldie but dedicated to Pishy. She is still so concerned that her Canadian NeoNazi friend couldn't speak his mind about the Holocaust in Canada so he had to come on an American server to do that. Of course Pishy agrees with her friend saying that no people were ever gassed by the Nazis and wishes he could have got up on his soapbox and yelled it out on a street in Ontario, Canada. By the way, Pishy, did you ever find the picture of your friend standing around with the other NeoNazis? His mustache must tickle the women.

The Canadian that Housefly refers to is Ian Verner Macdonald who used to post on the AOL Middle East Board, a board which both he and I were members along with, I believe, many others now on this board. Because I was polite to MacDonald, likened to RoccoR being polite and extolled for it under this subject, Housefly attempted to childishly link me to him, and obviously still does, as a means to malign me because of his dislike for my pro-Palestinian postings. The purpose of any discussion board, in my opinion, should be for all members to hear as many sides of an argument as possible to enable each to formulate his/her own view on it. Please grow up, Housefly, you really are an embarrassment to yourself. ~ Susan
Ian Verner Macdonald - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia
 
Beelzebub, et al,

I look at it a little differently.

So not only is any move against Israels wishes 'terrorism' these days, but anyone who expresses an opinion with is critical of Israel is now part of not just a Jihad, but a Hamas Jihad.

Rocco,

you do realise that you are sounding quite quite mad, don't you? You mean this in jest, yes?
(COMMENT)

First, I think that anyone that attempts to justify Jihadist activity, is violating the various prohibitions on "incitement to violence."

Mike Mallory and similar media personalities, have this special First Amendment protection which they often use and abuse. But really, in the US, no one wants to get entangled in a First Amendment battle in the courts. That doesn't mean that what media personalities like Mallory do is right or proper. It only means that they are able to do in the US what they would not be able to do in the Middle East.

Most Respectfully,
R

It only means that they are able to do in the US what they would not be able to do in the Middle East.

Or it only means that one would be able to do in the US that one would not be able to do in Europe if it concerns the Holocaust. Europeans, please ask yourselves why you are unable to speak your mind concerning anything that you wish to speak your mind of . . . surely you are being controlled by some person, thing or entity. I'm not saying this person, thing or entity is wrong, I'm merely saying that you should fear the inability to speak your mind on any subject. A pox on all those who wish to arrogantly control others as if they knew it all and were wiser than ourselves. . . you dirty, filthy b*st*rds you. ~ Susan


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A pox on the NeoNazis. An oldie but dedicated to Pishy. She is still so concerned that her Canadian NeoNazi friend couldn't speak his mind about the Holocaust in Canada so he had to come on an American server to do that. Of course Pishy agrees with her friend saying that no people were ever gassed by the Nazis and wishes he could have got up on his soapbox and yelled it out on a street in Ontario, Canada. By the way, Pishy, did you ever find the picture of your friend standing around with the other NeoNazis? His mustache must tickle the women.

The Canadian that Housefly refers to is Ian Verner Macdonald who used to post on the AOL Middle East Board, a board which both he and I were members along with, I believe, many others now on this board. Because I was polite to MacDonald, likened to RoccoR being polite and extolled for it under this subject, Housefly attempted to childishly link me to him, and obviously still does, as a means to malign me because of his dislike for my pro-Palestinian postings. The purpose of any discussion board, in my opinion, should be for all members to hear as many sides of an argument as possible to enable each to formulate his/her own view on it. Please grow up, Housefly, you really are an embarrassment to yourself. ~ Susan
Ian Verner Macdonald - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia
And you will find Pishy's friend mentioned right at this site. The Skinhead International Canada

I wonder if she attended and listened to the skinhead music jamboree he had at his farm which is mentioned in the above site. You are still with the same old thing, Pishy, wishing that everyone around the world can deny the Holocaust like your friends. It sticks in your craw that there are some countries where it is not allowed. Has anyone who denied the Holocaust on any of the U.S. forums on the Internet ever been arrested, Pishy? Were you and your friends stopped from voicing your opinions even out in public here in the United States where you happen to live? I don't see what your problem is that you have to bring up free speech again since you certainly have it in this country.
 
You keep swaying from the subject matter. You really should quit stalking and spewing your hatred at me . . . it's just not healthy. If you won't worry about your own health, who will? ~ Susan
PS You seem to be consumed with the subject of Nazism.
 
You keep swaying from the subject matter. You really should quit stalking and spewing your hatred at me . . . it's just not healthy. If you won't worry about your own health, who will? ~ Susan
PS You seem to be consumed with the subject of Nazism.
Horsefly is nothing but a troll.
 
Susan, any second thoughts about who is controlling the media?

Why is it, that when I look at the media, there are thousands of views, from the highest levels of main stream media, to some crack pot with a web cam, on 12 radio stations... most people have never heard of him, and most never will....

And you can get views from every different perspective possible, and every ideology, and every cultural view point...

But then.... there's always people saying "see who is controlling the media?".

No one is controlling the media. The fact is, most people hate the Jews. They have throughout history, and is true up till this day. If you read the prophesies in your own Judaism, it says most people will hate the Jews.

There are many supporters of Israel in the media, but again most are not. This has always been the case. Nothing has changed.

If you read the prophesies in your own Judaism, it says most people will hate the Jews.

Well their prophesies don't mean anything, but they brought it on themselves , self fulfilled prophecy. They hated everyone so natch, every one hated them.
That's a very stupid post Penelope.
There is no such prophecy, we already discussed your Judaism knowledge haven't we?

No Daniyel nothing stupid here, self fulfilled prophecy. When you hate everyone and think your better than everyone people will not like you much.




So that's why so many hate the muslims with a vengance
I don't believe we were disgusting Muslim prophecy here, I don't think they even did prophecies. You may hate Muslims with vengeance , why I don't know.




Might be that I have had plenty of experience with them and know what they are really like. The violence, intolerance, racism, arrogance and anger issues shown by every muslim I have had contact with. They refuse to fit in yet demand that we bend over for them and fit in to their culture as dhimmi slaves.

But I answered a post that claimed the Jews hate everyone and think they are better than everyone else and that is the reason so many people don't like them. Well I have news for you that is how the majority of people view the muslims that have any contact with them, and would willingly eradicate them from the west given the chance.
 
RoccoR said:
You are still shoveling shit, Rocco.

Israel is not mentioned in that resolution.

What propaganda are you talking about?
 
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