Michigan couple charged with making millions off hiring illegal immigrants

[1srelluc]

MSN

A Michigan couple have been arrested and charged in a sweeping federal case that alleges they employed more than 240 undocumented workers in their plumbing business, generating tens of millions of dollars in revenue.

Moises Orduna-Rios, 36, and Raquel Orduna-Rios, 30, both of Plymouth, are facing multiple counts, including conspiracy, transporting and harboring unauthorized aliens for commercial gain, employing unauthorized workers, and money laundering, after they were arrested on Tuesday, according to a press release by the Department of Justice (DOJ). All suspects are innocent until proven guilty.

About time this happened.

That's how you get the illegals to self-deport.

 

[pknopp]

1 down, thousands to go.

 

[TNHarley]

THIS is how you stop illegals.

 

[1srelluc]

The trade schools are pumping out plumber apprentices at an increasing rate. That's the jobs they should be getting for a fair wage, not illegals.

Tell me again how illegals don't cost Americans jobs.

 

[Care4all]

The trade schools are pumping out plumber apprentices at an increasing rate. That's the jobs they should be getting for a fair wage, not illegals.

Tell me again how illegals don't cost Americans jobs.

Good job for the future that can't be replaced by A/I like the white collar jobs.

 

[martybegan]

Good job for the future that can't be replaced by A/I like the white collar jobs.

Trades are having a hard time finding people with the drive to work with their hands.

We've pushed college on everyone, and for some people it's just not the right thing for them.

 

[pknopp]

Trades are having a hard time finding people with the drive to work with their hands.

We've pushed college on everyone, and for some people it's just not the right thing for them.

The trades push college. The job I retired from I wouldn't qualify for without a degree today.

Business now wants you to pay for your own training.

 

[Care4all]

Trades are having a hard time finding people with the drive to work with their hands.

We've pushed college on everyone, and for some people it's just not the right thing for them.

Things are going to change, pretty quickly, and I'm afraid we may not be prepared for it!

 

[martybegan]

The trades push college. The job I retired from I wouldn't qualify for without a degree today.

Business now wants you to pay for your own training.

That doesn't make any sense.

 

[1srelluc]

The trades push college. The job I retired from I wouldn't qualify for without a degree today.

Business now wants you to pay for your own training.

Perhaps an example would be appropriate but I can see how a trade school graduate would have a leg up.

 

[Care4all]

That doesn't make any sense.

Yes it does....different blue collar trades are looking to hire college grads over high school graduates....

Even as retail sales managers...in my day, one could work their way up, busting their butts to get a Manager promotion... and work your way up higher, from there.

About 25 years ago, that changed and retail department stores I was in upper management with began requiring a college degree for a sales floor manager position in a dept store...I was against that position, because from my experience, the best managers came from within....the sales floor...learning all the ropes first....

 

[SweetSue92]

MSN

A Michigan couple have been arrested and charged in a sweeping federal case that alleges they employed more than 240 undocumented workers in their plumbing business, generating tens of millions of dollars in revenue.

Moises Orduna-Rios, 36, and Raquel Orduna-Rios, 30, both of Plymouth, are facing multiple counts, including conspiracy, transporting and harboring unauthorized aliens for commercial gain, employing unauthorized workers, and money laundering, after they were arrested on Tuesday, according to a press release by the Department of Justice (DOJ). All suspects are innocent until proven guilty.

About time this happened.

That's how you get the illegals to self-deport.

GOOD.

 

[Bitterhook]

That doesn't make any sense.

I have seen situations where an employer will require an employee to pay for their specific training or certification. However, the employee is often allowed to attend the required training and allowed an allotted amount of study time on the employer's clock and at full pay.

This is done so that the employee is as equally serious about gaining something from the training or certification as the employer is. It is most often also associated with a pay raise, after the training or certification, and in some case quite substantial.

I don't know if that is what the poster you were responding to was talking about, but it is a common practice in certain fields. It is also popular because the employee is more valuable to the employer, and they can also take their training and certification elsewhere without having to reimburse the employer, allowing them some leverage with the employer.

 

[pknopp]

Perhaps an example would be appropriate but I can see how a trade school graduate would have a leg up.

I worked in a chemical plant. When I was hired, they hired and trained you. Now you have to have a degree to get hired.

A friend of mine is an electrician. He teaches at the local college. Complains all the time that when taking the job he thought he would be training people with at least a basic understanding. Now he has to train those from step one because it's required for them to get hired.

He was trained by his grandfather on the job.

 

[martybegan]

Yes it does....different blue collar trades are looking to hire college grads over high school graduates....

Even as retail sales managers...in my day, one could work their way up, busting their butts to get a Manager promotion... and work your way up higher, from there.

About 25 years ago, that changed and retail department stores I was in upper management with began requiring a college degree for a sales floor manager position in a dept store...I was against that position, because from my experience, the best managers came from within....the sales floor...learning all the ropes first....

In my experience as a manager for construction, the trades in NY prefer them out of high school because they are younger and less full of themselves.

My job requires and Engineering Degree as well as an Engineering License. I may sound a bit snooty, but I do agree with you that requiring college for things like sales management is a bit idiotic.

 

[Blaster]

Good job for the future that can't be replaced by A/I like the white collar jobs.

I agree, blue collar workers are in demand.

 

[1srelluc]

I worked in a chemical plant. When I was hired, they hired and trained you. Now you have to have a degree to get hired.

A friend of mine is an electrician. He teaches at the local college. Complains all the time that when taking the job he thought he would be training people with at least a basic understanding. Now he has to train those from step one because it's required for them to get hired.

He was trained by his grandfather on the job.

I worked for E I DuPont and the only "hands and feet" jobs that required a degree there were the folks that ran the resin reactor.

 

[wamose]

Illegal aliens taking American jobs and depressing wages is bullshit. Even so, these are the best of the illegal aliens. Worse than them are the illegals we give welfare, housing and education to for free. And then there are the criminals who deal drugs, smuggle humans, exploit children and hustle the system. We need to get rid of all of them.

 

[Woodznutz]

Trades are having a hard time finding people with the drive to work with their hands.

We've pushed college on everyone, and for some people it's just not the right thing for them.

I recently saw a presentation on trade schools. The "students" looked like they came from a homeless camp.

 

[pknopp]

I worked for E I DuPont and the only "hands and feet" jobs that required a degree there were the folks that ran the resin reactor.

Same place I worked. Yes, degree's were not required in the past.


I suppose to be fair, where I worked is no longer DuPont owned. Dumped it to avoid continual lawsuits.