bendog
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I'm no fan of michelle, but you are a racist bastard, and because of that, you chose to misrepresent what she said (as did Briebart). The founders were Brits who chose to become Americans ... regardless of where they were born.
Michelle Obama: The Founding Fathers Were Not Born In America!
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I'm no fan of michelle, but you are a racist bastard, and because of that, you chose to misrepresent what she said (as did Briebart). The founders were Brits who chose to become Americans ... regardless of where they were born.
NYcarbineer
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They weren't born American because the nation of the United States of AMERICA did not exist when they were born.
bendog
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I think the obvious is lost on them. I called McGarret a racist over this factual misstatement, and he is a racist, but I'm beginning to think he was just to stupid to grasp the obvious. LOL
jon_berzerk
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so Indians are not native Americans then
RoshawnMarkwees
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Sounds like she's trying to rationalize her Kenyan-born husband's presidency.
So, Indians, who had every right and everything taken from them, were founding fathers?
How does that work?
Uhm, no, that's not what she's talking about.
RoshawnMarkwees
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You think the original birther, Hillary Haldeman Nixon Clinton, will buy that?
boedicca
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^^^ The heartbreak of historical illiteracy on parade ^^^
When did the practice of referring to the New World as the Americas begin?
How did the Founders begin the Declaration of Independence?
It's permissible to use a search engine as it's unlikely you can answer these off the top of your wee widdle head.
dilloduck
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The founders of our country sure as shit didn't sneak in and apply for food stamps.
norwegen
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The British Americans began distinguishing themselves from their British counterparts long before the Revolutionary War began. They were divesting themselves of British thought and behavior in the 17th century.
The Americans were a happy and prosperous people, and wanted to stay that way, resisting the intrusions of the Crown that began in the 1760s. They were resisting, essentially, a foreign invader.
They were seating their own legislatures, establishing their own republics, drafting their own constitutions. Some of them thought that the states might coexist with Britain as commonwealths, with allegiances to the king, but in 1776, even that was not to be.
They did not identify as Britons. They were Americans.
What do we mean by the Revolution? The war? That was no part of the Revolution; it was only a cause and effect of it. The Revolution was in the minds of the people, and this was effected, from 1760 to 1775, in the course of fifteen years before a drop of blood was shed at Lexington. The records of thirteen legislatures, the pamphlets, newspapers in all the colonies, ought to be consulted during that period to ascertain the steps by which the public opinion was enlightened and informed concerning the authority of Parliament over the colonies.
~ John Adams
They were not suddenly Americans in 1775. They were not subject to the erosion of liberties after the Glorious Revolution that the British were. Enlightenment rationalism and separatist Puritanism were American movements in greater measure than they were European movements.~ John Adams
The Americans were a happy and prosperous people, and wanted to stay that way, resisting the intrusions of the Crown that began in the 1760s. They were resisting, essentially, a foreign invader.
They were seating their own legislatures, establishing their own republics, drafting their own constitutions. Some of them thought that the states might coexist with Britain as commonwealths, with allegiances to the king, but in 1776, even that was not to be.
They did not identify as Britons. They were Americans.
Listening
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Take a look, stupid.
If there was no America (and there wasn't), then they didn't immigrate to America.
She is one sorry assed First Lady.
jon_berzerk
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are they or are they not Native Americans
being or not being a founding father
has nothing to do with it
jon_berzerk
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When did the practice of referring to the New World as the Americas begin?
the early 1500s from the writings of Amerigo Vespucci
jon_berzerk
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they British subjects
the folks who lived here were referred to as the American colonies
dilloduck
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No---they didn't immigrate to the country called the United States of America---THEY CREATED IT and risked their lives in the process.
jon_berzerk
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incredible
Cowman
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Bullshit America is a continent, when it comes to you people.
If some Mexican tries saying "I'm as American as any of you" you would all shoot him down.
"American" has been completely capitalized by the country United States of America.
dilloduck
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Because he is not as American as us. He lives in Mexico. He might be as North American as I am.
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