Mexico commiting an act of war (IMO)...

-Cp

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Mexican army escorts
border drug-runners
Minutemen, U.S. officials say military directs illegals to avoid Arizona patrols

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Posted: April 11, 2005
9:40 p.m. Eastern



© 2005 WorldNetDaily.com

WASHINGTON – The Mexican army is escorting those attempting to cross over the U.S. border illegally – including known drug-runners – to areas not patrolled by the Minuteman Project near Naco, Ariz., say Border Patrol sources and other officials including a U.S. congressman.

Rep. Tom Tancredo, R-Colo., and chairman of the Congressional Immigration Reform Caucus, denounced the action by the Mexican military and called on President Bush to do the same.

"President Bush should publicly denounce Mexico's latest act to curb U.S. law," said Tancredo. "The president of Mexico is threatening to sue any member of the Minuteman who have contact with a Mexican national, threatening to take the U.S. into the International Court of Justice at the Hague over the passage of Prop 200 in Arizona, and is providing transportation to Mexican nationals trying to sneak into the U.S. One could say he is acting in the best interest of his nation. Isn't it unfortunate we cannot say the same thing about President Bush?"

Grey Deacon, a spokesman for the Minuteman Project, reported illegal immigration is down considerably from previous months in the area patrolled by the U.S. citizen volunteers trying to bring attention to the problem of the porous border. While he claimed credit for 241 Minuteman-assisted apprehensions by the Border Patrol in the week since the project began, he pointed out the 23-mile section of the border normally sees thousands of crossing attempts a day while they have been numbered in the dozens a day since the project began.

He said the Minutemen aided today in the capture of a "coyote," a professional human smuggler.

"But the traffic is down because the Mexican military is leading illegal aliens, including drug smugglers, away from the area of the border we are patrolling," he said.

Border Patrol sources say the Mexican army recently moved about 1,000 troops to the Agua Prieta region, just south of where the Minutemen are. These troops, the sources say, are diverting all of the illegal alien and drug-smuggling traffic away from the Minutemen.

Just prior to the launch of the Minuteman Project March 30, Miguel Escobar Valdez, Mexican consul in Douglas, Ariz., said the Mexican military was bracing for possible violence on the border.

"The Mexican army is on alert," Escobar said. "Also, law enforcement will be vigilant because the situation is very volatile. This is because, I have to say it, there are violent and radical elements on both sides of the border."

The Minuteman Project is a group of about 1,000 U.S. volunteers patrolling the U.S. side of the border on a 23-mile stretch in Arizona near Naco. When they spot illegal aliens crossing the border, they alert Border Patrol agents to make arrests. The members plan to stay through the end of April.

The volunteers focused on the border area near Naco because it had become one of the highest traffic corridors for border-crossing illegal aliens. Last year, more than 40 percent of the 1.15 million illegal aliens caught by the Border Patrol were taken into custody in the southern Arizona region.


http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=43754
 
Well if they ever are crazy enough to declare open war it would be a good time to annex mexico.
 
Avatar4321 said:
Well if they ever are crazy enough to declare open war it would be a good time to annex mexico.


Annexing means they are suddenly all legal.

Wanna rephrase that?
 
nosarcasm said:
Annexing means they are suddenly all legal.

Wanna rephrase that?

No. Whats wrong with letting them become citizens if they really want to? Course it would have to be done in an orderly fashion. The Constitution provides for additional states applying to the union. We should make it conditional on a few things. Details can be worked out later.

Annexing Mexico could shorten our southern border considerably. We don't have to bring them in as states immediately. we can create territories like we did out west. Organize some systems and controls in place. Build infrastructure. Encourage economic growth and hard work. We could create tons of opportunity for growth and make ourselves more secure.
 
Avatar4321 said:
No. Whats wrong with letting them become citizens if they really want to? Course it would have to be done in an orderly fashion. The Constitution provides for additional states applying to the union. We should make it conditional on a few things. Details can be worked out later.

Annexing Mexico could shorten our southern border considerably. We don't have to bring them in as states immediately. we can create territories like we did out west. Organize some systems and controls in place. Build infrastructure. Encourage economic growth and hard work. We could create tons of opportunity for growth and make ourselves more secure.


What makes you think we'd want them apart of the USA? Jeesh, they've already screwed their own country - make em' stay there till they get it right first...
 
-Cp said:
What makes you think we'd want them apart of the USA? Jeesh, they've already screwed their own country - make em' stay there till they get it right first...
Try an build a house, dig a ditch or get lawn service without em. Or maybe even pick fruit and vegs. Oh, forgot the sheet changes in the hotels too..the list is very long. :gross2:
 
Mr. P said:
Try an build a house, dig a ditch or get lawn service without em. Or maybe even pick fruit and vegs. Oh, forgot the sheet changes in the hotels too..the list is very long. :gross2:


Yeah, what a concept - AMERICAN's would have to do those jobs! *gasp!*
 
Avatar4321 said:
No. Whats wrong with letting them become citizens if they really want to? Course it would have to be done in an orderly fashion. The Constitution provides for additional states applying to the union. We should make it conditional on a few things. Details can be worked out later.

Annexing Mexico could shorten our southern border considerably. We don't have to bring them in as states immediately. we can create territories like we did out west. Organize some systems and controls in place. Build infrastructure. Encourage economic growth and hard work. We could create tons of opportunity for growth and make ourselves more secure.
i've often thought the same thing. hell, they are already coming here in droves, why not make them a state??
 
My problem isn't with them immigrating its. with illegal immigration. I don't see a good reason why we shouldnt find a way to let as many people join in our freedom if they want to. But it should be done legally.
 
Avatar4321 said:
My problem isn't with them immigrating its. with illegal immigration. I don't see a good reason why we shouldnt find a way to let as many people join in our freedom if they want to. But it should be done legally.

I'm afraid the truth is that
1. There has not been a loud enough outcry from Americans
2. Politicians see Hispanics as people who will vote as a bloc. They are afraid to offend them and at the same time trying to figure out how to lure them into voting for them.

There simply isn't enough motivation by anyone to stop the illegal flow and groups like the ACLU , Soros and the Mexican govt are doing everything they can to encourage it. ( I wonder if they have to leave all thier religious symbols at the border --rosary beads, icons,crosses etc. )
 
green lantern said:
i've often thought the same thing. hell, they are already coming here in droves, why not make them a state??


Taking them on as another state would kill our economy.... Yes, they are that poor....
 
-Cp said:
Taking them on as another state would kill our economy.... Yes, they are that poor....

Hence, why we make them a territory first. build the economy. open the area for investment. etc. Im seeing this as an opportunity for growth. yeah it will cost a bit but i think it the long run it would benefit our economy with the increase in labor, resources, land and other capital men and women can use to drive our economy forward. naturally it wouldnt be a totally smooth transition. But There is opportunity for growth and our southern border would be more maintainable. We also wouldnt have to spend tons of money in keeping people out or deporting them back to Mexico. We wouldn't have an illegal immigration problem anymore.
 
Avatar4321 said:
Hence, why we make them a territory first. build the economy. open the area for investment. etc. Im seeing this as an opportunity for growth. yeah it will cost a bit but i think it the long run it would benefit our economy with the increase in labor, resources, land and other capital men and women can use to drive our economy forward. naturally it wouldnt be a totally smooth transition. But There is opportunity for growth and our southern border would be more maintainable. We also wouldnt have to spend tons of money in keeping people out or deporting them back to Mexico. We wouldn't have an illegal immigration problem anymore.
hmmmm sounds like a big buffer zone but I doubt seriously that Mexico would let go of any territory.
 
Avatar4321 said:
Hence, why we make them a territory first. build the economy. open the area for investment. etc. Im seeing this as an opportunity for growth. yeah it will cost a bit but i think it the long run it would benefit our economy with the increase in labor, resources, land and other capital men and women can use to drive our economy forward. naturally it wouldnt be a totally smooth transition. But There is opportunity for growth and our southern border would be more maintainable. We also wouldnt have to spend tons of money in keeping people out or deporting them back to Mexico. We wouldn't have an illegal immigration problem anymore.


Mexico does have TONS of oil and other natural resources...:p
 

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