Methodist Church Considers HP Company Divestment

[Freeman]

We actually know who owned the land in Palestine. The UN was kind enough to perform a survey of the deeds in 1945 and came up with a map. As you can see about 95% of the land belonged to the native inhabitants.

"Native inhabitants"? You mean the Jews?

It means the palestinians descendants of Canaanites who lived centuries before jews in the holy lands.

Results of a DNA study by geneticist Ariella Oppenheim appears to match historical accounts that Arab Israelis ((Palestinian 1948)) and Palestinians, together as the one same population, represent modern "descendants of a core population that lived in the area since prehistoric times", albeit religiously first Christianized then largely Islamized, and all eventually culturally Arabized."American Academy for the Advancement of Science."

 

[montelatici]

montelatici, et al,

Yes, this is a very widely used Map, in fact --- overused, that attempts to support the disposition of territory to the various entities. AND if this were relevant and dominate factor to the material evidence used in deliberations made by the UN Special Committee of Palestine, it could even be useful. BUT, it was only a minor piece to the puzzle. Maybe even a discarded piece as trivial.

We actually know who owned the land in Palestine. The UN was kind enough to perform a survey of the deeds in 1945 and came up with a map. As you can see about 95% of the land belonged to the native inhabitants.

(COMMENT)

It is even more trivial today. If the UN were to make the same survey today, using you logic, the Palestinians would probably be awarded even less territory on recommendation.

Remember: To Israelis really don't want the Arab Palestinians (alla 1988) for the same reason that none of the other Arab League Nations wants the Arab Palestinians.

• The Arab Palestinians represent an unproductive burden, and parasitic in nature.

√ The burden on social Programs.

• Primary and Secondary school Education
• Law Enforcement and Crime Prevention Costs.

√ Cost of food assistance programs.
√ Cost of Medical care passed on to taxpayers.
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There is no Arab League Country that similarly comparable to the Human Development to that of Israel (especially anywhere in the Middle East to the Persian Gulf). And there is no regional nation that expects the Palestinians to positively contribute to their slow but steady progress.

Most Respectfully,
R

It doesn't matter a wit, what Israel's development is. There was no African country anywhere close to Apartheid South Africa in human development. By not giving South African citizenship to most non-whites, considering them citizens of territories the whites effectively controlled, the Bantustans, Apartheid South Africa had one of the highest Human Development indices in the world.

Israel is doing the exact same thing as Apartheid South Africa. The human development index does not consider the condition of nearly 40% of the population under Jewish control.

You and your friends sound so much like the Apartheid apologists it's uncanny.

For example:

"Contrary to popular belief, the whites did not take the country from the blacks. When the Dutch settled in the Cape in 1652, they found a barren, largely unpopulated land. Together with French and German settlers, they built a dynamic society."

and

"Contrary to myth, the blacks were never run off their land. They settled in tribal lands of their own choice. "

and

" South Africa is the only country in Sub-Saharan Africa that can feed itself. Blacks possess one of the highest living standards in all of Africa. Although black living conditions in South Africa (as in America) cover a wide spectrum, the housing is unequaled anywhere on the continent. "

and

"Although the country accounts for only 4 percent of Africa's surface area and 6.5 percent of the continent's population, it is credited with 25 percent of the continent's gross national product, 40 percent of its industrial output, 45 percent of mining production, 66 percent of all steel consumption and electricity generated, 46 percent of all motor vehicles and 36 percent of all telephones."

and

"Income in South Africa is higher for blacks than in any other African state. In reality, there is a strong emerging black middle class. There is a steady increase in the number of dentists, doctors, lawyers and other senior positions. South Africa's black prosperity and emerging black middle class is rarely mentioned."

and

This one is the most poignant and replicates the ravings of the ZioNazis:

"the 42 black-ruled states have now disintegrated into a political, social and economic nightmare. Under colonial rule, these states produced 95 percent of their own food. Today, despite their richness in natural resources and manpower, these countries increasingly have become beggar states."

South Africa Shouldn't be Singled Out

 

[MJB12741]

We actually know who owned the land in Palestine. The UN was kind enough to perform a survey of the deeds in 1945 and came up with a map. As you can see about 95% of the land belonged to the native inhabitants.

"Native inhabitants"? You mean the Jews?

The Jews came from Europe. By definition they cannot be natives of the Middle East. But keep up the comedy act.

How do ya like that? Moses & his flock came from Europe. Amazing what we can learn here from Monte.

 

[montelatici]

We actually know who owned the land in Palestine. The UN was kind enough to perform a survey of the deeds in 1945 and came up with a map. As you can see about 95% of the land belonged to the native inhabitants.

"Native inhabitants"? You mean the Jews?

The Jews came from Europe. By definition they cannot be natives of the Middle East. But keep up the comedy act.

How do ya like that? Moses & his flock came from Europe. Amazing what we can learn here from Monte.

No, the Zionist colonizers came from Europe, not Moses. Where do you think the Zionists came from?

 

[Roudy]

So entertaining to see Rocco humiliating Monte every time with his depth of knowledge and research. But the shameless antisemite keeps coming back for more.

 

[RoccoR]

montelatici, et al,

Well, since the Middle East was not the cradle of human civilization, it is pretty safe to say that all the people in the territories came from somewhere.

We actually know who owned the land in Palestine. The UN was kind enough to perform a survey of the deeds in 1945 and came up with a map. As you can see about 95% of the land belonged to the native inhabitants.

"Native inhabitants"? You mean the Jews?

The Jews came from Europe. By definition they cannot be natives of the Middle East. But keep up the comedy act.

(COMMENT)

The concept inferred here --- pertaining to Palestinian Nationalism, rests upon certain rights conveyed by native birth in Palestine (a natural law concept).

Most Arab Palestinian leaders viewed of citizenship (alla 1925) as a product of colonialism due to the involvement of the Zionist Organisation in the draft of the order and the fact the Palestinians were neither informed of the wording of the draft nor able to voice concerns with it. Once again, the Arab Palestinians shot themselves in the foot. They have declined several times to be a participant in the formulation of these citizenship and nationality issues. Citizenship is citizenship. There were no degrees to citizenship between 1922 (The Palestine Order in Council) and 1948 (Israeli Independence).

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[montelatici]

"Well, since the Middle East was not the cradle of human civilization"

What? You truly have the dumb and dumber sycophants like Ruddy bamboozled.

Where do you think the "cradle of civilization" was, you moron. Your high school level of education is showing.

 

[Roudy]

What he meant was humananity and civilization began in Africa and they migrated from there. Did the ignorant antisemtic IslamoNazi parrot think he had a gotcha moment? Ha ha ha.

How Africa Became the Cradle of Humankind. Read more: History, Travel, Arts, Science, People, Places | Smithsonian

Africa as the Cradle of Man and his Civilization

http://allafrica.com/stories/201506191183.html

Egypt: The cradle of civilization

 

[MJB12741]

We actually know who owned the land in Palestine. The UN was kind enough to perform a survey of the deeds in 1945 and came up with a map. As you can see about 95% of the land belonged to the native inhabitants.

"Native inhabitants"? You mean the Jews?

The Jews came from Europe. By definition they cannot be natives of the Middle East. But keep up the comedy act.

How do ya like that? Moses & his flock came from Europe. Amazing what we can learn here from Monte.

No, the Zionist colonizers came from Europe, not Moses. Where do you think the Zionists came from?

So let me get this straight. Moses wasn't a Zionist??? Oh well Monte, live & learn.

Parashat Mattot: Moses's message of Zionism

 

[Roudy]

We actually know who owned the land in Palestine. The UN was kind enough to perform a survey of the deeds in 1945 and came up with a map. As you can see about 95% of the land belonged to the native inhabitants.

"Native inhabitants"? You mean the Jews?

The Jews came from Europe. By definition they cannot be natives of the Middle East. But keep up the comedy act.

How do ya like that? Moses & his flock came from Europe. Amazing what we can learn here from Monte.

No, the Zionist colonizers came from Europe, not Moses. Where do you think the Zionists came from?

So let me get this straight. Moses wasn't a Zionist??? Oh well Monte, live & learn.

Parashat Mattot: Moses's message of Zionism

Was it called the promised land of Israel or Palestine back then?

And how come this mythical Palestine isn't mentioned in the Koran but Israel as the eternal promised land of the Jews is? Was Moe-hammit a Zionist too?

 

[montelatici]

We actually know who owned the land in Palestine. The UN was kind enough to perform a survey of the deeds in 1945 and came up with a map. As you can see about 95% of the land belonged to the native inhabitants.

"Native inhabitants"? You mean the Jews?

The Jews came from Europe. By definition they cannot be natives of the Middle East. But keep up the comedy act.

How do ya like that? Moses & his flock came from Europe. Amazing what we can learn here from Monte.

No, the Zionist colonizers came from Europe, not Moses. Where do you think the Zionists came from?

So let me get this straight. Moses wasn't a Zionist??? Oh well Monte, live & learn.

Parashat Mattot: Moses's message of Zionism

Certainly not a European born Zionist.

 

[Roudy]

"Native inhabitants"? You mean the Jews?

The Jews came from Europe. By definition they cannot be natives of the Middle East. But keep up the comedy act.

How do ya like that? Moses & his flock came from Europe. Amazing what we can learn here from Monte.

No, the Zionist colonizers came from Europe, not Moses. Where do you think the Zionists came from?

So let me get this straight. Moses wasn't a Zionist??? Oh well Monte, live & learn.

Parashat Mattot: Moses's message of Zionism

Certainly not a European born Zionist.

^^^^^^
Ever noticed how these antisemtes who's ancestors migrated from Europe and then colonized the US, bray the loudest about those evil Jooos and Israel?

 

[Phoenall]

Divestment is what finally brought down Apartheid in South Africa.

NOPE it was UN sanctions that the nations agreed with . But still waiting for the evidence of apartheid in Israel, will you ever find any ?

Nope. Look into it.

Still waiting for the evidence of apartheid in Israel

 

[Phoenall]

Divestment is what finally brought down Apartheid in South Africa.

It can also bring down the israeli Apartheid.

still waiting for the evidence of apartheid in Israel, will you ever find any ?

I think aware folk know what's going on there with the Israeli's Palestinian cleansing and terrorism.

The same ones that cant find any evidence and still run with the lies.

If it is so widespread as you claim then you will have no problem producing the links. The only cleansing is that of the Christians by the palestinians

 

[MJB12741]

"Native inhabitants"? You mean the Jews?

The Jews came from Europe. By definition they cannot be natives of the Middle East. But keep up the comedy act.

How do ya like that? Moses & his flock came from Europe. Amazing what we can learn here from Monte.

No, the Zionist colonizers came from Europe, not Moses. Where do you think the Zionists came from?

So let me get this straight. Moses wasn't a Zionist??? Oh well Monte, live & learn.

Parashat Mattot: Moses's message of Zionism

Certainly not a European born Zionist.

Oh now I get it. You see, you Zionists, you can't claim Moses was a Zionist for dragging his people through the desert for 40 years to a establish a Jewish homeland because the guy wasn't a European. Hey I have an idea. Lets say the European Theodore Herzl was the first Zionist, to help bail Monte out.

 

[Roudy]

The Jews came from Europe. By definition they cannot be natives of the Middle East. But keep up the comedy act.

How do ya like that? Moses & his flock came from Europe. Amazing what we can learn here from Monte.

No, the Zionist colonizers came from Europe, not Moses. Where do you think the Zionists came from?

So let me get this straight. Moses wasn't a Zionist??? Oh well Monte, live & learn.

Parashat Mattot: Moses's message of Zionism

Certainly not a European born Zionist.

Oh now I get it. You see, you Zionists, you can't claim Moses was a Zionist for dragging his people through the desert for 40 years to a establish a Jewish homeland because the guy wasn't a European. Hey I have an idea. Lets say the European Theodore Herzl was the first Zionist, to help bail Monte out.

Yup, and it's just coincidental the name of the land is ZION in the OT and that's what Jews called it thousands of years ago. Maybe they were Jews who didn't know they were actually Muslim Palestinians. You do know that Muslims claim that Jesus and Moses were Muslims!

 

[MJB12741]

How do ya like that? Moses & his flock came from Europe. Amazing what we can learn here from Monte.

No, the Zionist colonizers came from Europe, not Moses. Where do you think the Zionists came from?

So let me get this straight. Moses wasn't a Zionist??? Oh well Monte, live & learn.

Parashat Mattot: Moses's message of Zionism

Certainly not a European born Zionist.

Oh now I get it. You see, you Zionists, you can't claim Moses was a Zionist for dragging his people through the desert for 40 years to a establish a Jewish homeland because the guy wasn't a European. Hey I have an idea. Lets say the European Theodore Herzl was the first Zionist, to help bail Monte out.

Yup, and it's just coincidental the name of the land is ZION in the OT and that's what Jews called it thousands of years ago. Maybe they were Jews who didn't know they were actually Muslim Palestinians. You do know that Muslims claim that Jesus and Moses were Muslims!

Good point. Zionism began from God's request to Moses. But don't tell Monte.

 

[Phoenall]

No, the Zionist colonizers came from Europe, not Moses. Where do you think the Zionists came from?

So let me get this straight. Moses wasn't a Zionist??? Oh well Monte, live & learn.

Parashat Mattot: Moses's message of Zionism

Certainly not a European born Zionist.

Oh now I get it. You see, you Zionists, you can't claim Moses was a Zionist for dragging his people through the desert for 40 years to a establish a Jewish homeland because the guy wasn't a European. Hey I have an idea. Lets say the European Theodore Herzl was the first Zionist, to help bail Monte out.

Yup, and it's just coincidental the name of the land is ZION in the OT and that's what Jews called it thousands of years ago. Maybe they were Jews who didn't know they were actually Muslim Palestinians. You do know that Muslims claim that Jesus and Moses were Muslims!

Good point. Zionism began from God's request to Moses. But don't tell Monte.

BUT, but, but team Palestine says that zionism started with the Rothchilds buying Palestine of the German Nazi's so they could steal the land from the arab muslims, who had lived there since the ice age, in 1948

 

[Roudy]

No, the Zionist colonizers came from Europe, not Moses. Where do you think the Zionists came from?

So let me get this straight. Moses wasn't a Zionist??? Oh well Monte, live & learn.

Parashat Mattot: Moses's message of Zionism

Certainly not a European born Zionist.

Oh now I get it. You see, you Zionists, you can't claim Moses was a Zionist for dragging his people through the desert for 40 years to a establish a Jewish homeland because the guy wasn't a European. Hey I have an idea. Lets say the European Theodore Herzl was the first Zionist, to help bail Monte out.

Yup, and it's just coincidental the name of the land is ZION in the OT and that's what Jews called it thousands of years ago. Maybe they were Jews who didn't know they were actually Muslim Palestinians. You do know that Muslims claim that Jesus and Moses were Muslims!

Good point. Zionism began from God's request to Moses. But don't tell Monte.

Nah, it's a new concept, began just the last hundred years. Jewish ties to the land of Israel is a myth. Or so say the antisemites.

 

[Fenton Lum]

Divestment is what finally brought down Apartheid in South Africa.

It can also bring down the israeli Apartheid.

still waiting for the evidence of apartheid in Israel, will you ever find any ?

I think aware folk know what's going on there with the Israeli's Palestinian cleansing and terrorism.

The same ones that cant find any evidence and still run with the lies.

If it is so widespread as you claim then you will have no problem producing the links. The only cleansing is that of the Christians by the palestinians

You only find the info that supports your belief system. No one can help you with that but you.

Do you also need someone to provide you links on how euros genocided their way into occupation of North America?