Melania trump, pro-choicer.

[BULLDOG]

Notice the verbiage. Allowing someone to live and have a chance at life is "forcing them into the world". Is it REALLY far better for someone else to decide the child's life will not be worth living and simply remove it from them?

Yes, if that child has a horrible defect, and will only suffer while it lives a very short time.

 

[hadit]

Yes, if that child has a horrible defect, and will only suffer while it lives a very short time.

That's not what he said, is it?

Tell you what, let's restrict abortion to ONLY those cases where the life of the mother is literally in danger, or the child certainly will die in agony a few hours after birth. Deal?

My guess is you will run very far and very fast from the stance of pretending that only babies with severe deformities are aborted. The truth is, and cannot be denied, that the vast majority of abortions performed in America are done as contraception, not because there is anything wrong with the baby or because the mother will die. To pretend otherwise is simply false.

 

[BULLDOG]

That's not what he said, is it?

Tell you what, let's restrict abortion to ONLY those cases where the life of the mother is literally in danger, or the child certainly will die in agony a few hours after birth. Deal?

My guess is you will run very far and very fast from the stance of pretending that only babies with severe deformities are aborted. The truth is, and cannot be denied, that the vast majority of abortions performed in America are done as contraception, not because there is anything wrong with the baby or because the mother will die. To pretend otherwise is simply false.

I hear that claim quite often. What is your source for that claim?

 

[hadit]

I hear that claim quite often. What is your source for that claim?

Which one, that abortions are done for contraception? That one's easy, because most of them are done before it is possible to determine that there are any abnormalities at all.

Now, would you accept that deal or would you move the goalposts?

 

[BULLDOG]

Which one, that abortions are done for contraception? That one's easy, because most of them are done before it is possible to determine that there are any abnormalities at all.

Now, would you accept that deal or would you move the goalposts?

So, what about that link? "Because I say so" isn't verifiable proof.

 

[buckeye]

I hear that claim quite often. What is your source for that claim?

The reasons most frequently cited were that having a child would interfere with a woman's education, work or ability to care for dependents (74%); that she could not afford a baby now (73%); and that she did not want to be a single mother or was having relationship problems (48%). Nearly four in 10 women said they had completed their childbearing, and almost one-third were not ready to have a child. Fewer than 1% said their parents' or partners' desire for them to have an abortion was the most important reason. Younger women often reported that they were unprepared for the transition to motherhood, while older women regularly cited their responsibility to dependents.

Reasons U.S. Women Have Abortions: Quantitative and Qualitative Perspectives

Public discussion about abortion in the United States has generally focused on policy: who should be allowed to have abortions, and under what circumstances. Receiving less attention are the women behind the statistics—the 1.3 million women who obtain abortions each year1—and their reasons for...

www.guttmacher.org

If a baby is so inconvenient for you why not use birth control to prevent their creation?

Oh, becasue you can just abort the little intruder.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

That's not what he said, is it?

Tell you what, let's restrict abortion to ONLY those cases where the life of the mother is literally in danger, or the child certainly will die in agony a few hours after birth. Deal?

My guess is you will run very far and very fast from the stance of pretending that only babies with severe deformities are aborted. The truth is, and cannot be denied, that the vast majority of abortions performed in America are done as contraception, not because there is anything wrong with the baby or because the mother will die. To pretend otherwise is simply false.

That's exactly what he meant, though.

Only if your freak types will guarantee before hand all the support and funds necessary pre- and post-natal for ensuring the mom and her child to live a decent life including medical, educational, nutrional, housing, and domestic service.

In a heartbeat.

 

[hadit]

So, what about that link? "Because I say so" isn't verifiable proof.

How far into pregnancy do most abortions happen? | USAFacts

Now, how many serious abnormalities can be detected in the first trimester, when the bulk of abortions are done?

 

[whutTHEYsay]

Frederick Clarkson is a Senior Research Analyst at PRA and has written about politics and religion for more than four decades. His work has appeared in a wide range of publications from Mother Jones, Church & State, and Ms. Magazine to The Christian Science Monitor, Salon.com, and Religion Dispatches. He is the author of Eternal Hostility: The Struggle Between Theocracy and Democracy, and editor of Dispatches from the Religious Left: The Future of Faith and Politics in America. He has worked as an investigative editor at Planned Parenthood Federation of America; as Communications Director at the Institute for Democracy Studies; and co-founded the group blog, Talk to Action.

 

[FredVegbarfuss]

Melania Trump made an extraordinary declaration in an eagerly awaited memoir to be published a month from election day: she is a passionate supporter of a woman’s right to control her own body – including the right to abortion.

“It is imperative to guarantee that women have autonomy in deciding their preference of having children, based on their own convictions, free from any intervention or pressure from the government,” the Republican nominee’s wife writes, amid a campaign in which Donald Trump’s threats to women’s reproductive rights have played a central role.


“Why should anyone other than the woman herself have the power to determine what she does with her own body? A woman’s fundamental right of individual liberty, to her own life, grants her the authority to terminate her pregnancy if she wishes.

“Restricting a woman’s right to choose whether to terminate an unwanted pregnancy is the same as denying her control over her own body. I have carried this belief with me throughout my entire adult life.”

You suppose trump knew that was in there? And ya gotta wonder what the campaign is thinking about this as well.

But good on here for finally showing us she has at least one independent thought.

Unless it was just overlooked while she plagiarized other authors for her book.

Melania Trump passionately defends abortion rights in upcoming memoir

Exclusive: ‘I have carried this belief with me throughout my entire adult life,’ former first lady writes in memoir

www.theguardian.com

These politicians that come to power in office are not choosing the policies according to their beliefs or values. They have consistencies that they will work things toward satisfying to enable the greater power they pursue. This is generally the case for all. This is what you have with trusting elections that put any into office which they pursue.

 

[Rambunctious]

Melania Trump made an extraordinary declaration in an eagerly awaited memoir to be published a month from election day: she is a passionate supporter of a woman’s right to control her own body – including the right to abortion.

“It is imperative to guarantee that women have autonomy in deciding their preference of having children, based on their own convictions, free from any intervention or pressure from the government,” the Republican nominee’s wife writes, amid a campaign in which Donald Trump’s threats to women’s reproductive rights have played a central role.


“Why should anyone other than the woman herself have the power to determine what she does with her own body? A woman’s fundamental right of individual liberty, to her own life, grants her the authority to terminate her pregnancy if she wishes.

“Restricting a woman’s right to choose whether to terminate an unwanted pregnancy is the same as denying her control over her own body. I have carried this belief with me throughout my entire adult life.”

You suppose trump knew that was in there? And ya gotta wonder what the campaign is thinking about this as well.

But good on here for finally showing us she has at least one independent thought.

Unless it was just overlooked while she plagiarized other authors for her book.

Melania Trump passionately defends abortion rights in upcoming memoir

Exclusive: ‘I have carried this belief with me throughout my entire adult life,’ former first lady writes in memoir

www.theguardian.com

She has always been pro choice... this is not news...