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Look commie tard.Like your left-wing counterparts who believe CNN and NYTimes, you shouldn't believe everything from Fox and WSJ.$200 Trillion The Left wants to spend on all Their Commie-Globalist-Socialist Programs will Bankrupt This Country and doctors and nurses will be begging in the streets for bread just like a rich man. There will be no Rich men. All of us will be Beggars and Paupers, except for Sanders and his friends.
Why don't you become a Leftist Monk, make a vow of Poverty and give your money to all of the "Grandsons" addicted to Oxycotin to prove to all of us, how important Communism-Socialism is to you?
How about you quit interfering in these kids getting some churching?
Let us know when you have made that vow of Poverty and start giving away all your possessions to Heroin Addicts to pay for their treatment, and Illegal Aliens to pay for their healthcare and college. Send us some pictures of your Left Tard Monastery.Why don't you become a Leftist Monk, make a vow of Poverty and give your money to all of the "Grandsons" addicted to Oxycotin to prove to all of us, how important Communism-Socialism is to you?
Ah, that reading comprehension and vocabulary problem again. I actually oppose socialism like SOCIALIZING SENIOR DRUGS which ever party does that. You do not. You support SOCIALISM as long as preacher and Fox do too... and W's socializing of senior drugs did have the effect the libertarians (not liberals) warned.... that socializing senior drugs would men plentiful taxpayer funded pills for the rest of society, especially kids... and that's what happened. 40 years ago, there was booze, pot, and "other" (coke, lsd,shroom etc.). Now, there are PILLS, and pills are "cool" because you can't be TESTED for them...
W + post 1998 GOP House and Senate = socialized senior drugs by lying about estimated cost, threatening the actuary who did the cost estimate, charging the American taxpayer a RETAIL PRICE for the drugs, and flooding America's high schools with addictive pills just as LIBERTARIANS warned....
How about you quit interfering in these kids getting some churching?
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Libertarians do not "interfere" with such things. Libertarians are for more freedom than you are. "Churching" per se is not bad when it is used to educate young minds about values. IT is bad when it misdiagnoses what hit us on 911 and pushes us to war about issues that are not US national interest, and getting FRAUD JESUS to float down from the clouds is not a US national interest, not even close.
Is that why Canadians come here for their healthcare, if they can pay for it?All you guys have is lies ?Ask Canada it's like a two week wait to get your arm set if you break it, but it's free!
It's hard to agree with Bernie and the Democrats on many things these days, but universal healthcare and eliminating the health insurance racket has always been one I've been on board with.
Bernie Sanders’ Medicare-for-All plan would save the country about $450 billion a year on total health care spending while preventing nearly 70,000 deaths, according to a study published over the weekend in The Lancet.
In the analysis, a team of epidemiologists led by Alison P. Galvani of the Yale School of Public Health applied the provisions of Sanders’ plan to real-world spending in the U.S. in 2017. They concluded that Medicare for All would have cost just over $3 trillion that year, or $458 billion less than the actual total. The analysis found that per capita costs would decline, resulting in lower costs overall, even with millions more people covered. And providing universal coverage would save 68,531 lives per year, the researchers.
Medicare for All Would Save $450 Billion and 68,000 Lives: Study
A voice of reason from the true left....my friend Lee Camp.
Here's my first problem... Your link claims that there are 37 Million people currently without health insurance.
Problem: Did not the left-wing and similar report claim that ObamaCare would provide insurance to 40 Million people?
The answer is of course, yes.
So it's fascinating that you claim we need more government run health care, because there are uninsured... and yet that is the exact same rational given for why we needed the last big increase in government run health care.
So explain to me.... why should anyone believe you? You said this last time, and we have a massively increased cost to government, the unfunded liabilities of Medicare and Medicaid now exceed $122 Trillion, and you claimed last time we had to do it for the uninsured, and here we are now with you telling us we need to do more, for the exact same reason.
The cost to the government has not gone down.
Further, the Lancet research does not cover the fact that Medicare would be forced to pay out more money, if we made it national insurance.
Medicare and Medicaid both, do not cover the full cost of treatment. The only way the government has been able to keep this model working for as long as it has, is because health care providers shift-costs to private patients.
We the private public, have to pay more for care, so that government can pay less for care.
If you remove private payers from that graph, one of two things will happen. A: All health care providers will close in bankruptcy. B: Medicare and Medicaid will have no choice but to pay out more money for treatment.
Since option A would result in a national crisis, then option B is the only viable option. And the moment you go for option B, then all your mythical savings goes out the window with it.
Additionally, we already have a fully socialized system in the US, known as the VA system. And maybe you missed it, but the VA system sucks.
Like your left-wing counterparts who believe CNN and NYTimes, you shouldn't believe everything from Fox and WSJ.$200 Trillion The Left wants to spend on all Their Commie-Globalist-Socialist Programs will Bankrupt This Country and doctors and nurses will be begging in the streets for bread just like a rich man. There will be no Rich men. All of us will be Beggars and Paupers, except for Sanders and his friends.
your Left Tard Monastery.
They purposefully jack up the costs with spiking drug prices, expensive equipment in elderly care--every way they can to cook the books up.I call bullshit....Medicare costs in excess of 10X what it was projected -counting inflation- when it was set forth...This boondoggle will be no different....In fact, I defy anyone to cite the first time a gubmint program came in under budget and delivered a superior product.
Bottom line is --- get rid of the insurance middle man- over a 10 year transition, increase good health awareness and diet, focus on prevention rather than medication and unnecessary surgery....a comprehensive restructuring of the whole system .
It's hard to agree with Bernie and the Democrats on many things these days, but universal healthcare and eliminating the health insurance racket has always been one I've been on board with.
Bernie Sanders’ Medicare-for-All plan would save the country about $450 billion a year on total health care spending while preventing nearly 70,000 deaths, according to a study published over the weekend in The Lancet.
In the analysis, a team of epidemiologists led by Alison P. Galvani of the Yale School of Public Health applied the provisions of Sanders’ plan to real-world spending in the U.S. in 2017. They concluded that Medicare for All would have cost just over $3 trillion that year, or $458 billion less than the actual total. The analysis found that per capita costs would decline, resulting in lower costs overall, even with millions more people covered. And providing universal coverage would save 68,531 lives per year, the researchers.
Medicare for All Would Save $450 Billion and 68,000 Lives: Study
A voice of reason from the true left....my friend Lee Camp.
It's hard to agree with Bernie and the Democrats on many things these days, but universal healthcare and eliminating the health insurance racket has always been one I've been on board with.
Bernie Sanders’ Medicare-for-All plan would save the country about $450 billion a year on total health care spending while preventing nearly 70,000 deaths, according to a study published over the weekend in The Lancet.
In the analysis, a team of epidemiologists led by Alison P. Galvani of the Yale School of Public Health applied the provisions of Sanders’ plan to real-world spending in the U.S. in 2017. They concluded that Medicare for All would have cost just over $3 trillion that year, or $458 billion less than the actual total. The analysis found that per capita costs would decline, resulting in lower costs overall, even with millions more people covered. And providing universal coverage would save 68,531 lives per year, the researchers.
Medicare for All Would Save $450 Billion and 68,000 Lives: Study
A voice of reason from the true left....my friend Lee Camp.
Hmmm, based on the thousands of dead veterans, killed by an incompetent, uncaring, corrupt, government run VA, I highly doubt that vastly increasing the number who would have to be serviced by the system is somehow, magically, going to lead to better outcomes and savings of any kind.
It's hard to agree with Bernie and the Democrats on many things these days, but universal healthcare and eliminating the health insurance racket has always been one I've been on board with.
Bernie Sanders’ Medicare-for-All plan would save the country about $450 billion a year on total health care spending while preventing nearly 70,000 deaths, according to a study published over the weekend in The Lancet.
In the analysis, a team of epidemiologists led by Alison P. Galvani of the Yale School of Public Health applied the provisions of Sanders’ plan to real-world spending in the U.S. in 2017. They concluded that Medicare for All would have cost just over $3 trillion that year, or $458 billion less than the actual total. The analysis found that per capita costs would decline, resulting in lower costs overall, even with millions more people covered. And providing universal coverage would save 68,531 lives per year, the researchers.
Medicare for All Would Save $450 Billion and 68,000 Lives: Study
A voice of reason from the true left....my friend Lee Camp.
Here's my first problem... Your link claims that there are 37 Million people currently without health insurance.
Problem: Did not the left-wing and similar report claim that ObamaCare would provide insurance to 40 Million people?
The answer is of course, yes.
So it's fascinating that you claim we need more government run health care, because there are uninsured... and yet that is the exact same rational given for why we needed the last big increase in government run health care.
So explain to me.... why should anyone believe you? You said this last time, and we have a massively increased cost to government, the unfunded liabilities of Medicare and Medicaid now exceed $122 Trillion, and you claimed last time we had to do it for the uninsured, and here we are now with you telling us we need to do more, for the exact same reason.
The cost to the government has not gone down.
Further, the Lancet research does not cover the fact that Medicare would be forced to pay out more money, if we made it national insurance.
Medicare and Medicaid both, do not cover the full cost of treatment. The only way the government has been able to keep this model working for as long as it has, is because health care providers shift-costs to private patients.
We the private public, have to pay more for care, so that government can pay less for care.
If you remove private payers from that graph, one of two things will happen. A: All health care providers will close in bankruptcy. B: Medicare and Medicaid will have no choice but to pay out more money for treatment.
Since option A would result in a national crisis, then option B is the only viable option. And the moment you go for option B, then all your mythical savings goes out the window with it.
Additionally, we already have a fully socialized system in the US, known as the VA system. And maybe you missed it, but the VA system sucks.
I did over 21 years in the United States Army.
I was utterly shocked when I transitioned to the VA as I am 100%.
Over the last 12 years VA has vastly improved, yet I find myself using my Tricare even more now than when I first retired.
The improvement in va, as vast as it is, is relatable in this manner.
A polished turd, no matter how much you make it shine nor how glossy you get it, at it's core, is still nothing more than a lump of shit.
So many people, to include congress representatives, point to va as a ideological representation of what governmentally run health care could be. I invite them to it for a single year first and foremost, and then if they can live with it as is then go for it, but don't mess with my other coverage... You've fucked me over enough.
lolTake your Commie Demon Propaganda To Hell with you. America does not want to become The Soviet Union, and we will fight you until Jesus takes us outta here and turns this world over to you and The Devil for a short spell before Judgment Day.
Climate Change?
Read The Book of Revelation. Climate Change is a complete Joke compared to that. If you are going to get fried by The Sun in The Last Days, God will be lighting the fire.
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I hear stories like yours, and others constantly. Constantly. And the idea these left-wing brainless fools want all of us to suffer the same fate as those who trust in the VA... insane.
It's hard to agree with Bernie and the Democrats on many things these days, but universal healthcare and eliminating the health insurance racket has always been one I've been on board with.
Bernie Sanders’ Medicare-for-All plan would save the country about $450 billion a year on total health care spending while preventing nearly 70,000 deaths, according to a study published over the weekend in The Lancet.
In the analysis, a team of epidemiologists led by Alison P. Galvani of the Yale School of Public Health applied the provisions of Sanders’ plan to real-world spending in the U.S. in 2017. They concluded that Medicare for All would have cost just over $3 trillion that year, or $458 billion less than the actual total. The analysis found that per capita costs would decline, resulting in lower costs overall, even with millions more people covered. And providing universal coverage would save 68,531 lives per year, the researchers.
Medicare for All Would Save $450 Billion and 68,000 Lives: Study
A voice of reason from the true left....my friend Lee Camp.
Hmmm, based on the thousands of dead veterans, killed by an incompetent, uncaring, corrupt, government run VA, I highly doubt that vastly increasing the number who would have to be serviced by the system is somehow, magically, going to lead to better outcomes and savings of any kind.
2002 called and wants its' talking point back.
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I hear stories like yours, and others constantly. Constantly. And the idea these left-wing brainless fools want all of us to suffer the same fate as those who trust in the VA... insane.
It's not crap. It's fact. Wake up.
One of my brothers is a retired US Marine.Trump has been trying to improve the conditions in the VA since he got in.
The talking points are valid. Address them instead of sticking your head in the sand.
One thing for sure, is that alcoholics, drug addicts, cigarette smokers and fat-asses probably
account for half of all medical costs.
Another reason for legalizing weed, the cure for everything.
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I hear stories like yours, and others constantly. Constantly. And the idea these left-wing brainless fools want all of us to suffer the same fate as those who trust in the VA... insane.
Same people that are paying for at least 2 illegal wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, Welfare to every country on earth and bail outs aka welfare for corporations who couldn't manage their own funding. US! WE THE FUCKING PEOPLE! This time we would actually pay for something that benefits us ALL instead of a wealthy few.Who is gonna pay for it genius?They purposefully jack up the costs with spiking drug prices, expensive equipment in elderly care--every way they can to cook the books up.I call bullshit....Medicare costs in excess of 10X what it was projected -counting inflation- when it was set forth...This boondoggle will be no different....In fact, I defy anyone to cite the first time a gubmint program came in under budget and delivered a superior product.
Bottom line is --- get rid of the insurance middle man- over a 10 year transition, increase good health awareness and diet, focus on prevention rather than medication and unnecessary surgery....a comprehensive restructuring of the whole system .
