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[jc456]

... A woman's abortion cannot harm another person. ....

An abortion by definition harms another person as much as one person can harm another.

Thanks for sharing your feelings on the matter. Your feelings don't change facts.

Facts? Hahaha

 

[FA_Q2]

Why would I admit it? You made the assertion you provide the links

are you that lazy that when a 'leftist' says something like that, you aren't curious enough to challenge it by showing it wasn't true - or you know damn well he's a fuckwad like that & he probably did & kept his orange piehole shut.

anyhoo............. i never lie.

Published March 2

Trumps received COVID-19 vaccines at White House in January​

Former president and first lady got both doses, official confirmed​

Trumps received COVID-19 vaccines at White House in January

and I disagree it was BS and a Deflection. 100% factual.

i'll expect it in yer next post.

In fact you cannot refute any of the points.

what points? the bs deflection YOU gave about abortion.... biden ...& jews.... & moooooslems .... & israel on a thread about masks? damn, at least my FACTUAL point that donny & wifey poo #3 got their shots on the down low telling none of his pawns - who might follow his lead & stop being anti science morons is a hell of lot more on topic than the crappy deflection you threw at the wall but isn't sticking.

You have to wait three weeks before receiving the 2nd dose and two more weeks after that to be clear. Right in time for March. Not sure what you’re getting at?

uh-huh. soooooooooooooooooo not a word after the 1st dose - no big announcement? not even on hannity? orrrrrrrrrr fox& friends where he would go & ramble & bloviate.

not a word after the 2nd dose. nothing nadaaaaaaaaaaaa.

you can't man up 'eh? pity & petty.

Why would you announce anything until you're fully vaccinated? You're grasping at straws. Your TDS is off the rails.

Because it would have reduced vaccine hesitancy by a large margin with republicans.

Republicans have vaccine hesitancy? Link please

...

Any group that you point to will have some vaccine hesitancy - that is just a hard fact. Are you going to claim that there are is significant vaccine hesitancy with republicans? I cannot think you can honestly make that statement.

And Trump getting the vaccine would have alleviated much of that hesitancy.

Post a link please. I have hesitancy only because I have the antibodies otherwise I d get it tomorrow. I do Not see Republicans as any more or less hesitant than anyone else. But you made the assertion so please provide the link per USMB rules. Thank you.

Stop waffling. Your are being dishonest here if you simply reject vaccine hesitancy exists period. No link is required for that. Another poster gave one to you anyway in the post above but a better correlation to exactly what we are talking about is here

Least Vaccinated U.S. Counties Have Something in Common: Trump Voters (Published 2021)

A Times analysis found that willingness to receive a vaccine and actual vaccination rates to date were both lower, on average, in counties that voted red in the 2020 presidential election.

www.nytimes.com

Then again, you could just go to google:

report on vaccine hesitency by political affiliation - Google Search

Where every damn one of those links on the first several pages says the same thing, vaccine hesitancy is higher among republicans. Every. Single. One.
Now, again, Trump getting the vaccine would have alleviated much of that hesitancy.

It isn’t hesitancy? They just don’t want it.

So you want to ignore the facts.


I gave you the google pages. Trump taking the vaccine publically and announcing it would have reduced the number of people that 'don't want it' then. Same result no matter what silly label you want to attach to it.

May have but many don’t trust the science and Trump is in his 70s. Those in their 20s and 30s may feel differently. Why are you trying to shame people into getting vaccines?

Why do you beat your wife?

LOL….it is self defense

lol, it was *supposed* to point out the fact that "Why are you trying to shame people into getting vaccines?" is begging a question as I never did or said anything of the sort. It has nothing to do with 'shaming' anyone.

I get it

So you are just dodging then?

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

... A woman's abortion cannot harm another person. ....

An abortion by definition harms another person as much as one person can harm another.

Thanks for sharing your feelings on the matter. Your feelings don't change facts.

Fact is the unborn baby is still dead. You seem to keep ignoring that. Typical Leftist.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Why would I admit it? You made the assertion you provide the links

are you that lazy that when a 'leftist' says something like that, you aren't curious enough to challenge it by showing it wasn't true - or you know damn well he's a fuckwad like that & he probably did & kept his orange piehole shut.

anyhoo............. i never lie.

Published March 2

Trumps received COVID-19 vaccines at White House in January​

Former president and first lady got both doses, official confirmed​

Trumps received COVID-19 vaccines at White House in January

and I disagree it was BS and a Deflection. 100% factual.

i'll expect it in yer next post.

In fact you cannot refute any of the points.

what points? the bs deflection YOU gave about abortion.... biden ...& jews.... & moooooslems .... & israel on a thread about masks? damn, at least my FACTUAL point that donny & wifey poo #3 got their shots on the down low telling none of his pawns - who might follow his lead & stop being anti science morons is a hell of lot more on topic than the crappy deflection you threw at the wall but isn't sticking.

You have to wait three weeks before receiving the 2nd dose and two more weeks after that to be clear. Right in time for March. Not sure what you’re getting at?

uh-huh. soooooooooooooooooo not a word after the 1st dose - no big announcement? not even on hannity? orrrrrrrrrr fox& friends where he would go & ramble & bloviate.

not a word after the 2nd dose. nothing nadaaaaaaaaaaaa.

you can't man up 'eh? pity & petty.

Why would you announce anything until you're fully vaccinated? You're grasping at straws. Your TDS is off the rails.

Because it would have reduced vaccine hesitancy by a large margin with republicans.

Republicans have vaccine hesitancy? Link please

...

Any group that you point to will have some vaccine hesitancy - that is just a hard fact. Are you going to claim that there are is significant vaccine hesitancy with republicans? I cannot think you can honestly make that statement.

And Trump getting the vaccine would have alleviated much of that hesitancy.

Post a link please. I have hesitancy only because I have the antibodies otherwise I d get it tomorrow. I do Not see Republicans as any more or less hesitant than anyone else. But you made the assertion so please provide the link per USMB rules. Thank you.

Stop waffling. Your are being dishonest here if you simply reject vaccine hesitancy exists period. No link is required for that. Another poster gave one to you anyway in the post above but a better correlation to exactly what we are talking about is here

Least Vaccinated U.S. Counties Have Something in Common: Trump Voters (Published 2021)

A Times analysis found that willingness to receive a vaccine and actual vaccination rates to date were both lower, on average, in counties that voted red in the 2020 presidential election.

www.nytimes.com

Then again, you could just go to google:

report on vaccine hesitency by political affiliation - Google Search

Where every damn one of those links on the first several pages says the same thing, vaccine hesitancy is higher among republicans. Every. Single. One.
Now, again, Trump getting the vaccine would have alleviated much of that hesitancy.

It isn’t hesitancy? They just don’t want it.

So you want to ignore the facts.


I gave you the google pages. Trump taking the vaccine publically and announcing it would have reduced the number of people that 'don't want it' then. Same result no matter what silly label you want to attach to it.

May have but many don’t trust the science and Trump is in his 70s. Those in their 20s and 30s may feel differently. Why are you trying to shame people into getting vaccines?

Why do you beat your wife?

LOL….it is self defense

lol, it was *supposed* to point out the fact that "Why are you trying to shame people into getting vaccines?" is begging a question as I never did or said anything of the sort. It has nothing to do with 'shaming' anyone.

I get it

So you are just dodging then?

Dodging what?

 

[Papageorgio]

No it isn't the same

You’re right, killing babies is evil

Abortion is "killing babies". A baby is a fully formed, living breathing person. Neither a zygote nor a fetus is a person, yet. It is potentially a person, but it is not a person.

It is a human life, science proves it.

There is no convincing idiots such as yourself that "science" doesn't call it a "baby", nor do they call it a "life". It is a "zygot", and a "fetus".

But that's not the REAL issue with you a$$holes at all. The REAL issue is that you get to bully and control women, and shame them for having sex. Biology gave women choice on whether or not to terminate a pregnancy. God gave humans "free will" to follow their own beliefs. But today's Republican Party would force women to have children they cannot raise.

Have you forgotten the orphanages filled with "unwanted" children in the 1950's? Children who never found homes.

Science again says it is a life.

Life Begins at Fertilization with the Embryo's Conception

Want to try again? You people need to get in line with science.

 

[Unkotare]

... A woman's abortion cannot harm another person. ....

An abortion by definition harms another person as much as one person can harm another.

Thanks for sharing your feelings on the matter. Your feelings don't change facts.

What I said is FACT if anything is. Your moral cowardice is unbecoming.

 

[FA_Q2]

Why would I admit it? You made the assertion you provide the links

are you that lazy that when a 'leftist' says something like that, you aren't curious enough to challenge it by showing it wasn't true - or you know damn well he's a fuckwad like that & he probably did & kept his orange piehole shut.

anyhoo............. i never lie.

Published March 2

Trumps received COVID-19 vaccines at White House in January​

Former president and first lady got both doses, official confirmed​

Trumps received COVID-19 vaccines at White House in January

and I disagree it was BS and a Deflection. 100% factual.

i'll expect it in yer next post.

In fact you cannot refute any of the points.

what points? the bs deflection YOU gave about abortion.... biden ...& jews.... & moooooslems .... & israel on a thread about masks? damn, at least my FACTUAL point that donny & wifey poo #3 got their shots on the down low telling none of his pawns - who might follow his lead & stop being anti science morons is a hell of lot more on topic than the crappy deflection you threw at the wall but isn't sticking.

You have to wait three weeks before receiving the 2nd dose and two more weeks after that to be clear. Right in time for March. Not sure what you’re getting at?

uh-huh. soooooooooooooooooo not a word after the 1st dose - no big announcement? not even on hannity? orrrrrrrrrr fox& friends where he would go & ramble & bloviate.

not a word after the 2nd dose. nothing nadaaaaaaaaaaaa.

you can't man up 'eh? pity & petty.

Why would you announce anything until you're fully vaccinated? You're grasping at straws. Your TDS is off the rails.

Because it would have reduced vaccine hesitancy by a large margin with republicans.

Republicans have vaccine hesitancy? Link please

...

Any group that you point to will have some vaccine hesitancy - that is just a hard fact. Are you going to claim that there are is significant vaccine hesitancy with republicans? I cannot think you can honestly make that statement.

And Trump getting the vaccine would have alleviated much of that hesitancy.

Post a link please. I have hesitancy only because I have the antibodies otherwise I d get it tomorrow. I do Not see Republicans as any more or less hesitant than anyone else. But you made the assertion so please provide the link per USMB rules. Thank you.

Stop waffling. Your are being dishonest here if you simply reject vaccine hesitancy exists period. No link is required for that. Another poster gave one to you anyway in the post above but a better correlation to exactly what we are talking about is here

Least Vaccinated U.S. Counties Have Something in Common: Trump Voters (Published 2021)

A Times analysis found that willingness to receive a vaccine and actual vaccination rates to date were both lower, on average, in counties that voted red in the 2020 presidential election.

www.nytimes.com

Then again, you could just go to google:

report on vaccine hesitency by political affiliation - Google Search

Where every damn one of those links on the first several pages says the same thing, vaccine hesitancy is higher among republicans. Every. Single. One.
Now, again, Trump getting the vaccine would have alleviated much of that hesitancy.

It isn’t hesitancy? They just don’t want it.

So you want to ignore the facts.


I gave you the google pages. Trump taking the vaccine publically and announcing it would have reduced the number of people that 'don't want it' then. Same result no matter what silly label you want to attach to it.

May have but many don’t trust the science and Trump is in his 70s. Those in their 20s and 30s may feel differently. Why are you trying to shame people into getting vaccines?

Why do you beat your wife?

LOL….it is self defense

lol, it was *supposed* to point out the fact that "Why are you trying to shame people into getting vaccines?" is begging a question as I never did or said anything of the sort. It has nothing to do with 'shaming' anyone.

I get it

So you are just dodging then?

Dodging what?

Sigh.

The original point made when you went off on this rant trying to redefine vaccine hesitancy and how Trump taking the vaccine would have reduced it.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Why would I admit it? You made the assertion you provide the links

are you that lazy that when a 'leftist' says something like that, you aren't curious enough to challenge it by showing it wasn't true - or you know damn well he's a fuckwad like that & he probably did & kept his orange piehole shut.

anyhoo............. i never lie.

Published March 2

Trumps received COVID-19 vaccines at White House in January​

Former president and first lady got both doses, official confirmed​

Trumps received COVID-19 vaccines at White House in January

and I disagree it was BS and a Deflection. 100% factual.

i'll expect it in yer next post.

In fact you cannot refute any of the points.

what points? the bs deflection YOU gave about abortion.... biden ...& jews.... & moooooslems .... & israel on a thread about masks? damn, at least my FACTUAL point that donny & wifey poo #3 got their shots on the down low telling none of his pawns - who might follow his lead & stop being anti science morons is a hell of lot more on topic than the crappy deflection you threw at the wall but isn't sticking.

You have to wait three weeks before receiving the 2nd dose and two more weeks after that to be clear. Right in time for March. Not sure what you’re getting at?

uh-huh. soooooooooooooooooo not a word after the 1st dose - no big announcement? not even on hannity? orrrrrrrrrr fox& friends where he would go & ramble & bloviate.

not a word after the 2nd dose. nothing nadaaaaaaaaaaaa.

you can't man up 'eh? pity & petty.

Why would you announce anything until you're fully vaccinated? You're grasping at straws. Your TDS is off the rails.

Because it would have reduced vaccine hesitancy by a large margin with republicans.

Republicans have vaccine hesitancy? Link please

...

Any group that you point to will have some vaccine hesitancy - that is just a hard fact. Are you going to claim that there are is significant vaccine hesitancy with republicans? I cannot think you can honestly make that statement.

And Trump getting the vaccine would have alleviated much of that hesitancy.

Post a link please. I have hesitancy only because I have the antibodies otherwise I d get it tomorrow. I do Not see Republicans as any more or less hesitant than anyone else. But you made the assertion so please provide the link per USMB rules. Thank you.

Stop waffling. Your are being dishonest here if you simply reject vaccine hesitancy exists period. No link is required for that. Another poster gave one to you anyway in the post above but a better correlation to exactly what we are talking about is here

Least Vaccinated U.S. Counties Have Something in Common: Trump Voters (Published 2021)

A Times analysis found that willingness to receive a vaccine and actual vaccination rates to date were both lower, on average, in counties that voted red in the 2020 presidential election.

www.nytimes.com

Then again, you could just go to google:

report on vaccine hesitency by political affiliation - Google Search

Where every damn one of those links on the first several pages says the same thing, vaccine hesitancy is higher among republicans. Every. Single. One.
Now, again, Trump getting the vaccine would have alleviated much of that hesitancy.

It isn’t hesitancy? They just don’t want it.

So you want to ignore the facts.


I gave you the google pages. Trump taking the vaccine publically and announcing it would have reduced the number of people that 'don't want it' then. Same result no matter what silly label you want to attach to it.

May have but many don’t trust the science and Trump is in his 70s. Those in their 20s and 30s may feel differently. Why are you trying to shame people into getting vaccines?

Why do you beat your wife?

LOL….it is self defense

lol, it was *supposed* to point out the fact that "Why are you trying to shame people into getting vaccines?" is begging a question as I never did or said anything of the sort. It has nothing to do with 'shaming' anyone.

I get it

So you are just dodging then?

Dodging what?

Sigh.

The original point made when you went off on this rant trying to redefine vaccine hesitancy and how Trump taking the vaccine would have reduced it.

It would not have

 

[playtime]

... a 5 month old child is post born & has a life history ....

A human life one second after conception has a life history. Is English your first language?

but not viable. there's the difference.

What happened to "life history"?

history begins at birth.

 

[playtime]

Same morals where you support killing unborn babies…quite moral you are.

you're pro choice, so lol@u.

donny will get his due & i have a bigley stick just waiting to poke you with.

bank on it.

I am pro choice but I never claimed to be superior morally. I do not judge others on their personal choices. You do. That makes you a hypocrite. Don’t misunderstand. Abortions are murder. But to me if a mother wants to murder her unborn kid she may. It’s her right. Donny never watched as my people were attacked in the US and Israel. Biden has. Who is the asshole?

yep. i would never could never be the vile, repugnant,, morally bankrupted , & inhumane creature that makes up donald J trump.

don't even try to think that all morality or the lack there of is the same.

it's beneath you.... or is it?

But you could kill an unborn baby.

nope. i couldn't - like i said, that would be infanticide. seems you flunked biology.

You could shame those who disagree with you politically.

lol ... depends on the circumstances. i disagree with hubby all the time about politics. he's a (R), as i've said in the past. but shame? naw ... unlike yer chosen one, my Marine is an empathetic person free of sociopathy, greed, & always has been faithful to me & THIS country.

You could shrug when trans girls take spots of biological girls on athletic teams or participate

not high on my list of priorities. oh well....

Against them in athletics.

ya ya yaaaaaaaaaaaaa.................... not really but since you're on a tangent - you go boy.

You could shrug as the Democratic Party openly spews Antisemitic views.

wrong. but again - zog... i care about THIS country .... about AMERICANS ... & would never put another's ahead of that. you do all the time.

Spare me your outrage.

lol ... spare me the projection. it's painfully obvious - when i simply stated a FACT about yer chosen one doing what he does best - conning people & being as UNtransparent as possible re: getting vaxxed on a thread whose title is supposta be about covid ... you tried to skirt around that & what did you do? you zeroed in on a fleeting comment about melania.

ya, cause THAT was an easy deflection. then you go down a rabbit hole cause you won't (can't) defend yer chosen one this time. not with his ' secret ' not with documented provable FRAUD & THEFT.... not with his behavior towards biologically born & raised females. you bring up abortion & hillary & israel & biden & trans athletics & anything else but the damn kitchen sink.

The hypocrisy is deafening. Grow up.

lol ... that would be you. i live in the real world & grown ups face facts.

Maybe if you were a better person you would be in a better place in your life?

such pettiness on yer part. i have a great life & i was waiting for some regressive triggered response to happen. you didn't disappoint. will you revert back to calling me a drunk now too? how about me being antisemitic? oh oh oh!!!! can you find the spelling 'mistake' & zero in on that as a diversion?

Bullshit. You admitted in this response that you have different priorities from me and yeah abortion is murder. If my wife is one day pregnant and is killed by a drunk driver that is considered a double homicide. How do you explain that. If you believe Trump is a conman which of his policies were cons? So you believe Biden is squeaky clean? Hypocrisy 101. And you lie about your life. You have shared some things here that state otherwise. It’s not petty from me. You dismiss my POV so I will gladly attack yours

The difference in your abortion vs homicide argument is in “ownership”. If I walk out to my car and take a baseball bat and break my car window no one is responsible to replace that window but me. If you walk out to my car with a baseball bat and break my window you are responsible to replace my window. Get the distinction?

So you equate taking a life to breaking a windshield? Pretty callous way to justify the taking of a life.

No, it was an analogy.

And you saw my response...in the end the glass is still broken.

And?

And the unborn baby is still dead. Whether killed by the mom or by an assailant. It is not a crime. It is legal. Is it moral? Subjective. Is it sad? Absolutely.

You are very stupid. Are you sure you served in the military?

not a child.

not a baby.

Find ANY pregnant woman who doesn't intend to kill her baby and ask her what it is she is carrying inside her. Listen to her OB talk to her about what is happening. Only those who intend to eliminate human life call a baby anything other than a baby regardless of where that baby happens to be.

ahhhhh you see? any woman who chooses to carry to term absolutely has that right & should.

& those that don't, shouldn't be forced to. when you can carry, then you can choose.

So, are you saying that any person who cannot give birth has no right to object if a woman shoots and kills a one year old baby? A ten year old? A twenty year old? A 70 year old? Is that what you are saying? Are only women who are able to give birth qualified to make or enforce laws relating to the taking of human life? Is that your position?

those examples are all post born humans with complete life histories.
....

So, a person who has been "human" longer is MORE human? The longer you live, the more valuable your life is? Is that your position?

nope. a post born person has person hood & that is how it should be.

So, one second before birth and one second after is a completely different entity? Is that your biologically ignorant and morally bankrupt view of human life?

viabilty should be the deciding factor. that is what roe v wade was based on.

"Should"? Who decides "should"?

lol ... when a fetus can survive on its own outside the womb, then that's yer clue.

So, as medical science pushes that date back, the reality of what is or is not human life changes? Is that what you're saying? With every post you seem to become stupider.

5 months will never be viable as much as you are trying.

Sure it is. My five month old grandson is now 17 a senior in high school

your grandson was born at 5 months gestation?

dolt.

 

[playtime]

Same morals where you support killing unborn babies…quite moral you are.

you're pro choice, so lol@u.

donny will get his due & i have a bigley stick just waiting to poke you with.

bank on it.

I am pro choice but I never claimed to be superior morally. I do not judge others on their personal choices. You do. That makes you a hypocrite. Don’t misunderstand. Abortions are murder. But to me if a mother wants to murder her unborn kid she may. It’s her right. Donny never watched as my people were attacked in the US and Israel. Biden has. Who is the asshole?

yep. i would never could never be the vile, repugnant,, morally bankrupted , & inhumane creature that makes up donald J trump.

don't even try to think that all morality or the lack there of is the same.

it's beneath you.... or is it?

But you could kill an unborn baby.

nope. i couldn't - like i said, that would be infanticide. seems you flunked biology.

You could shame those who disagree with you politically.

lol ... depends on the circumstances. i disagree with hubby all the time about politics. he's a (R), as i've said in the past. but shame? naw ... unlike yer chosen one, my Marine is an empathetic person free of sociopathy, greed, & always has been faithful to me & THIS country.

You could shrug when trans girls take spots of biological girls on athletic teams or participate

not high on my list of priorities. oh well....

Against them in athletics.

ya ya yaaaaaaaaaaaaa.................... not really but since you're on a tangent - you go boy.

You could shrug as the Democratic Party openly spews Antisemitic views.

wrong. but again - zog... i care about THIS country .... about AMERICANS ... & would never put another's ahead of that. you do all the time.

Spare me your outrage.

lol ... spare me the projection. it's painfully obvious - when i simply stated a FACT about yer chosen one doing what he does best - conning people & being as UNtransparent as possible re: getting vaxxed on a thread whose title is supposta be about covid ... you tried to skirt around that & what did you do? you zeroed in on a fleeting comment about melania.

ya, cause THAT was an easy deflection. then you go down a rabbit hole cause you won't (can't) defend yer chosen one this time. not with his ' secret ' not with documented provable FRAUD & THEFT.... not with his behavior towards biologically born & raised females. you bring up abortion & hillary & israel & biden & trans athletics & anything else but the damn kitchen sink.

The hypocrisy is deafening. Grow up.

lol ... that would be you. i live in the real world & grown ups face facts.

Maybe if you were a better person you would be in a better place in your life?

such pettiness on yer part. i have a great life & i was waiting for some regressive triggered response to happen. you didn't disappoint. will you revert back to calling me a drunk now too? how about me being antisemitic? oh oh oh!!!! can you find the spelling 'mistake' & zero in on that as a diversion?

Bullshit. You admitted in this response that you have different priorities from me and yeah abortion is murder. If my wife is one day pregnant and is killed by a drunk driver that is considered a double homicide. How do you explain that.

depends on the state & how far along she is.

If you believe Trump is a conman which of his policies were cons?

his response on covid. or should i say lack of. did you really believe he lied about the dangers of covid because of his caring of americans? he didn't want the stock market to plummet & affect his own approval ratings w/the economy.

So you believe Biden is squeaky clean? Hypocrisy 101.

i never said he was. please show proof of that.

you making stuff up is zog 101.

And you lie about your life.

ha! not once. i never lie. i have no reason to.
you making stuff up: azog 101.

You have shared some things here that state otherwise.

lol ... are you CONfusing me with someone else? my life is really pretty good. no complaints especially now that the orange sociopath & natashia are gone.

It’s not petty from me.

opinions vary. i say it was. you obviously disagree.

You dismiss my POV

like you just did?

learn to differentiate between how one acknowledges anothers' opinion & dismissing them because they are wrong. you are entitled to your opinions - i would never say otherwise.

you just aren't entitled to alternative facts & think they aren't.

so I will gladly attack yours

you spin in head to justify whatever it is that triggered you. somehow i don't really think it was my comments about melania ... but that is how you wanted to play this.

If my wife is ONE day pregnant and is killed by a drunk driver it is considered a double homicide. Fauci dismissed it too per his emails. Hell the first death in the US was Feb 29th and MA was shut down 2 weeks later. When would you have shut down. Show me a post where you deride Biden even remotely. If my kid in his 30s lived at home it would be an epic fail by me as a parent. If my daughters had to have an abortion when they got older, it would be an epic fail by me as a parent. I speak only for ME!

Trumps mistake was being too cautious with COVID and not having psychological experts speak to the dangers of lockdowns on kids and adults who have substance abuse problems and or depression. All the facts should have been on the table during the pressers. There he fucked up and it cost him the election IMO

my kid lived at home because he was seriously ill. i won't nor need to go into details now tell me how you would turn yer kids away in that circumstance. if you would - then, yaaaaaaaaaaaaa........... that's a bigley fail.

donny lied & people died. yep, it boils down to that. he knew how dangerous it was when he spoke to bob woodward, or was it carl bernstein? either way- he was pushing the whole 'covid will be gone by spring' bullshit whilst knowing the truth. his pawns believed him. some are now worm bait.

I disagree. So we may keep yelling at each other. I asked you what YOU would do differently. Do tell. Funny, how you avoided the whole one day pregnant example. Doesn't fit your narrative so you move on. Par for the course for you. I address ALL your points. You pick and choose. Pretty dishonest IMO.

there are states that want to give a god damn zygote ' personhood '.

it's ridiculous & that isn't murder - you think it is - then you are nuts. i don't pick & choose - i blow off ridiculousness.

btw zog- my kid is doing much better- thanx. /sarcasm.

According to science, it is a life, this was settled long ago. Life begins at fertilization.

human DNA is not a human being. when you can carry to term, then you get to say if you want to carry to term.

I am going by science, it is a life, it is more than DNA, according to science which you seem to be unable to dispute.

a 'life' is quite different than a 'being'.

Again, let's see the science behind your assumption.

can a 5 month old fetus survive on its own outside the uterus?

you show the science that it could.

No it cannot, neither can a 5 month old baby survive on its own outside the womb. Are you suggesting that we let the child die? Also, without medical help a person in a coma cannot survive on their own, you want to let them die as well? Again, you avoid the science behind your assumption, can you supply it or not?

what part of post born with life histories don't you understand? a 5 month old child is post born & has a life history just like a post born person in a coma.

lol ... next?

My five month old grandson is 17 now. Funny that thing called LIFE!

you played hookey the day when they taught reading comp.

 

[playtime]

No it isn't the same

You’re right, killing babies is evil

Abortion is "killing babies". A baby is a fully formed, living breathing person. Neither a zygote nor a fetus is a person, yet. It is potentially a person, but it is not a person.

It is a human life, science proves it.

it's human DNA that's alive. not a person. unless allowed to gestate, incubate, & go until viability.

 

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[Dragonlady]

No it isn't the same

You’re right, killing babies is evil

Abortion is "killing babies". A baby is a fully formed, living breathing person. Neither a zygote nor a fetus is a person, yet. It is potentially a person, but it is not a person.

It is a human life, science proves it.

Science doesn’t call it a “human life”, science calls it a foetus until it’s fully formed and able to breathe on its own.

But Republicans call it a baby and say it must be “saved”. Too bad Republicans don’t provide healthcare, well baby check ups, or other support to prevent maternal deaths in childbirth or infant deaths in the first year of life.

The USA leads the first world in both of these categories. You should try caring for mothers and babies and stop worrying about children that women cannot afford to carry to term or raise.

When you stop allowing women and babies to die will start believing that you care about the unborn.

 

[Papageorgio]

No it isn't the same

You’re right, killing babies is evil

Abortion is "killing babies". A baby is a fully formed, living breathing person. Neither a zygote nor a fetus is a person, yet. It is potentially a person, but it is not a person.

It is a human life, science proves it.

it's human DNA that's alive. not a person. unless allowed to gestate, incubate, & go until viability.

Argue with the scientists, not me. The facts are the facts, whether you abort a baby or not is not my concern, that is on you, just don't lie about what you choose to do.

 

[Unkotare]

No it isn't the same

You’re right, killing babies is evil

Abortion is "killing babies". A baby is a fully formed, living breathing person. Neither a zygote nor a fetus is a person, yet. It is potentially a person, but it is not a person.

It is a human life, science proves it.

Science doesn’t call it a “human life”, science calls it a foetus until it’s fully formed and able to breathe on its own.

But Republicans call it a baby and say it must be “saved”. Too bad Republicans don’t provide healthcare, well baby check ups, or other support to prevent maternal deaths in childbirth or infant deaths in the first year of life.

The USA leads the first world in both of these categories. You should try caring for mothers and babies and stop worrying about children that women cannot afford to carry to term or raise.

When you stop allowing women and babies to die will start believing that you care about the unborn.

You have sacrificed your humanity on the false alter of bullshit leftist political agenda. Sorry you think so little of yourself.

 

[Papageorgio]

No it isn't the same

You’re right, killing babies is evil

Abortion is "killing babies". A baby is a fully formed, living breathing person. Neither a zygote nor a fetus is a person, yet. It is potentially a person, but it is not a person.

It is a human life, science proves it.

Science doesn’t call it a “human life”, science calls it a foetus until it’s fully formed and able to breathe on its own.

But Republicans call it a baby and say it must be “saved”. Too bad Republicans don’t provide healthcare, well baby check ups, or other support to prevent maternal deaths in childbirth or infant deaths in the first year of life.

The USA leads the first world in both of these categories. You should try caring for mothers and babies and stop worrying about children that women cannot afford to carry to term or raise.

When you stop allowing women and babies to die will start believing that you care about the unborn.

I don't care if you abort a baby or not, it is not my business, science calls it a life and what Republicans think, say or do is of no concern to me. My wife and I took care of and raised our children, including their healthcare, the rest of your gibberish sounds like justification to me. I have provided links and you have chosen to not read and learn. I have done all I could and you want to remain ignorant. If you want to take a life, again, not my business, just try to be honest, which I realize is very difficult for you.

 

[playtime]

No it isn't the same

You’re right, killing babies is evil

Abortion is "killing babies". A baby is a fully formed, living breathing person. Neither a zygote nor a fetus is a person, yet. It is potentially a person, but it is not a person.

It is a human life, science proves it.

it's human DNA that's alive. not a person. unless allowed to gestate, incubate, & go until viability.

Argue with the scientists, not me. The facts are the facts, whether you abort a baby or not is not my concern, that is on you, just don't lie about what you choose to do.

lol ... medical journals do not describe a fetus in utero as a 'baby'.

but you are right about one thing:

not my concern

not one bit - 'cause it's not one bit yer biz'nez.

nor yer body.

just don't lie

is science lying when it doesn't use the term 'baby' at any part of gestation?


about what you choose to do.

i chose to have my kid. i would never think another female doesn't get to have the final say over what she wants or doesn't with her autonomy. that wouldn't make me any different than a slave owner.

 

[Unkotare]

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Emo-stupidity.

 

[Dragonlady]

No it isn't the same

You’re right, killing babies is evil

Abortion is "killing babies". A baby is a fully formed, living breathing person. Neither a zygote nor a fetus is a person, yet. It is potentially a person, but it is not a person.

It is a human life, science proves it.

it's human DNA that's alive. not a person. unless allowed to gestate, incubate, & go until viability.

Argue with the scientists, not me. The facts are the facts, whether you abort a baby or not is not my concern, that is on you, just don't lie about what you choose to do.

Well clearly it is a big concern to you because every time the topic comes up you comment on it vociferously and endlessly.

Science does not call it a baby and you saying so doesn’t make it true any more than the other lies you promulgate.