Markets are down again, in part to Trump's tariff nonsense

[GenStark]

The problem is we don't truly have free trade. Tariffs are an important tool in counterbalancing abuses that have taken a lot of jobs and industries overseas. Look, I like rising stocks and low prices just as much as you do. However, I also recognize that our friends and neighbors need jobs and that hollowing out our manufacturing base is a national security risk. We need to find the right balance, and the president is the first politician in a long time who seems to understand the pendulum swung too far the other way.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

The problem is we don't truly have free trade. Tariffs are an important tool in counterbalancing abuses that have taken a lot of jobs and industries overseas. Look, I like rising stocks and low prices just as much as you do. However, I also recognize that our friends and neighbors need jobs and that hollowing out our manufacturing base is a national security risk. We need to find the right balance, and the president is the first politician in a long time who seems to understand the pendulum swung too far the other way.

Yet what he is proposing will not redress it.

 

[GenStark]

Yet what he is proposing will not redress it.

It sure does seem to be working. There's a lot of big investment in the US. The tariffs are raising revenue. Inflation didn't take off like crazy. The markets are actually up again although to be honest the markets are a pretty poor gauge of the real economy.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

It sure does seem to be working. There's a lot of big investment in the US. The tariffs are raising revenue. Inflation didn't take off like crazy. The markets are actually up again although to be honest the markets are a pretty poor gauge of the real economy.

Do you know how long it takes build an aluminum plant. A steel plant. A nuclear power station. Any of these?

We can never catch up.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

And welcome to the Board.

 

[jc456]

The problem is we don't truly have free trade. Tariffs are an important tool in counterbalancing abuses that have taken a lot of jobs and industries overseas. Look, I like rising stocks and low prices just as much as you do. However, I also recognize that our friends and neighbors need jobs and that hollowing out our manufacturing base is a national security risk. We need to find the right balance, and the president is the first politician in a long time who seems to understand the pendulum swung too far the other way.

Exactly! All these assholes talking free trade when there isn’t any towards us. Fk them.

We wouldn’t have lost all our jobs

 

[Mashmont]

The markets are down.

It's not all Trump's fault, but his business policies cause uncertainity which is not helpful to investors, markets, and the economy.

From Co-pilot AI:
Markets are in a slump today due to a mix of corporate disappointments and geopolitical jitters:


Weak Q1 Earnings

• Tata Consultancy Services (TCS) reported lower-than-expected revenue, dragging down the entire IT sector.
• Other tech giants like Infosys and Wipro also saw declines, contributing to a broader selloff.

Escalating Trade Tensions

• President Donald Trump announced new tariffs, including a 35% rate on Canadian imports and proposed blanket tariffs of 15–20% on other partners.
• These moves have rattled global markets, raising fears of a renewed trade war and economic slowdown.

Rising Oil Prices

• Speculation about sanctions on Russia pushed crude prices higher, which is especially concerning for oil-importing countries like India.

Overvalued Market Concerns

• Analysts note that Indian equities are trading at high valuations, making them vulnerable to corrections amid uncertain earnings and global headwinds.

Flight to Safety

• Investors are shifting toward safe-haven assets like gold and silver, signaling reduced risk appetite.

This is simply not a Trump-friendly economy.

Why Did Stock Market Fall Today? Know Key Factors Behind Sensex, Nifty Decline On July 11​

Curated By :

• Mohammad Haris
• News18.com

Last Updated:July 12, 2025, 04:11 IST

The BSE Sensex traded lower by 689.81 points or 0.83% to close at 82,500.47, while the NSE Nifty fell by 205.40 points or 0.81% to settle at 25,149.85.​

Stock Market Today: Sensex Falls 681 Pts, Nifty Below 25,160 as TCS, Wipro Drag Indices

Key Takeaways BSE Sensex closed at 82,508.89, down 681.39 points (0.82%), while the Nifty 50 settled at 25,155.70, down 199.55 points (0.79%) on July 11, 2025.

www.analyticsinsight.net

Why stock market fell today: Sensex settles 690 points, Nifty below 25,150; 5 reasons behind the fall

Stock market crash : Across sectors, the Nifty IT index declined 1.8%, dragged by losses in TCS, LTIMindtree, Infosys, and Wipro. Auto, Realty, Media, Consumer Durables, and Oil & Gas indices fell between 1% and 1.8%, while Financials and Metals slipped nearly 0.5%. The Nifty Midcap100 and...

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The three markets are all at or near record highs. Leftwingers will say up is down. You guys lie. It’s what you do.

 

[GenStark]

Do you know how long it takes build an aluminum plant. A steel plant. A nuclear power station. Any of these?

We can never catch up.

Building those stations and plants creates jobs too.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

The three markets are all at or near record highs. Leftwingers will say up is down. You guys lie. It’s what you do.

We are talking about the economy not just the markets.

We are talking about uncertainty.

 

[Mashmont]

We are talking about the economy not just the markets.

We are talking about uncertainty.

Oh. I thought your OP was about the markets.

Markets are down again, in part to Trump's tariff nonsense​

You said they're down. They're not. They're up.

 

[Rambunctious]

The markets are down.

It's not all Trump's fault, but his business policies cause uncertainity which is not helpful to investors, markets, and the economy.

From Co-pilot AI:
Markets are in a slump today due to a mix of corporate disappointments and geopolitical jitters:


Weak Q1 Earnings

• Tata Consultancy Services (TCS) reported lower-than-expected revenue, dragging down the entire IT sector.
• Other tech giants like Infosys and Wipro also saw declines, contributing to a broader selloff.

Escalating Trade Tensions

• President Donald Trump announced new tariffs, including a 35% rate on Canadian imports and proposed blanket tariffs of 15–20% on other partners.
• These moves have rattled global markets, raising fears of a renewed trade war and economic slowdown.

Rising Oil Prices

• Speculation about sanctions on Russia pushed crude prices higher, which is especially concerning for oil-importing countries like India.

Overvalued Market Concerns

• Analysts note that Indian equities are trading at high valuations, making them vulnerable to corrections amid uncertain earnings and global headwinds.

Flight to Safety

• Investors are shifting toward safe-haven assets like gold and silver, signaling reduced risk appetite.

This is simply not a Trump-friendly economy.

Why Did Stock Market Fall Today? Know Key Factors Behind Sensex, Nifty Decline On July 11​

Curated By :

• Mohammad Haris
• News18.com

Last Updated:July 12, 2025, 04:11 IST

The BSE Sensex traded lower by 689.81 points or 0.83% to close at 82,500.47, while the NSE Nifty fell by 205.40 points or 0.81% to settle at 25,149.85.​

Stock Market Today: Sensex Falls 681 Pts, Nifty Below 25,160 as TCS, Wipro Drag Indices

Key Takeaways BSE Sensex closed at 82,508.89, down 681.39 points (0.82%), while the Nifty 50 settled at 25,155.70, down 199.55 points (0.79%) on July 11, 2025.

www.analyticsinsight.net

Why stock market fell today: Sensex settles 690 points, Nifty below 25,150; 5 reasons behind the fall

Stock market crash : Across sectors, the Nifty IT index declined 1.8%, dragged by losses in TCS, LTIMindtree, Infosys, and Wipro. Auto, Realty, Media, Consumer Durables, and Oil & Gas indices fell between 1% and 1.8%, while Financials and Metals slipped nearly 0.5%. The Nifty Midcap100 and...

economictimes.indiatimes.com

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The Dow is over 44,300....
Its way up..

 

[GenStark]

We are talking about the economy not just the markets.

We are talking about uncertainty.

The markets and economy are all about uncertainty.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Oh. I thought your OP was about the markets.

Markets are down again, in part to Trump's tariff nonsense​

You said they're down. They're not. They're up.

Not just the markets. They were down several times this week. Closed barely up yesterday.

It's the idea of "uncertainity" that you are uncertain about.

Watch CNBC or Bloomberg.

You have a vast learning curve in front of you.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

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The Dow is over 44,300....
Its way up..

It's been up and down for several months, as you well know.

Trump's tariffs in the next three months will be the telling point.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

The markets and economy are all about uncertainty.

some of the magashytes won't admit that

 

[Rambunctious]

It's been up and down for several months, as you well know.

Trump's tariffs in the next three months will be the telling point.

Where was the DOW on the day Trump took over?...
Day Before Inauguration (January 19, 2025): The Dow stood at 30,930.52 and today its over 44,000...

 

[GenStark]

some of the magashytes won't admit that

Now you're talking yourself in circles.

Anyway, have a good one.

 

[Andrew_Jackson_FTW]

We are talking about the economy not just the markets.

We are talking about uncertainty.

No your thread is about the markets ie sp 500 which are performing pretty good. Your thread title is blatantly wrong.

Full stop you are lying. The last big market crash we had for the year was under Joe Biden in 2022 when the S&P 500 lost 19%. Whatever else you’re trying to do itt is bs. You won’t talk about the S&P 500 because you’re lying.

That’s not surprising coming from the same people who say men can get pregnant and a white homeless guy is privileged.

It’s One thing to have a policy debate it’s another to just blatantly lie like you are doing. And this is why you guys got swept in 2024 in the Senate, the presidency and the Congress.

 

[Mashmont]

Not just the markets. They were down several times this week. Closed barely up yesterday.

It's the idea of "uncertainity" that you are uncertain about.

Watch CNBC or Bloomberg.

You have a vast learning curve in front of you.

You said markets are down, but they're not. They're up.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Now you're talking yourself in circles.

Anyway, have a good one.

Thank you even if you are wrong.