Mark Judge, Key Witness To Alleged Brett Kavanaugh Assault, Refuses To Testify

[Ray From Cleveland]

Neither was Kavenaugh.

Kav is at this moment being accused of attempted rape. Obama hasnt even had a woman accuse him of looking at her too long.

Kavanaugh, by Ford's own words, is not accused of attempted rape.

Trying to forcibly fuck someone that doesnt want to is attempted rape no matter what language you use.

Not according to Maryland law. Their law states that rape is an attempted try for penetration. According to her claim, that never happened. She claimed that Kavanaugh jumped on top of her and held her mouth closed. Not rape or attempted rape by the statute in Maryland.

You must have read the wrong thing or someone gave you some false information. According to Maryland law its attempted rape.

Then look it up yourself. Attempted rape is not jumping on somebody and trying to keep them from screaming; as if that's what really happened.

Try this: Call your police department and tell them that somebody tried to rob you with a gun. You don't know where it took place, you don't have any witnesses, you don't even know what year it was other than 35 years ago. See what they tell you.

 

[Asclepias]

Kav is at this moment being accused of attempted rape. Obama hasnt even had a woman accuse him of looking at her too long.

Kavanaugh, by Ford's own words, is not accused of attempted rape.

Trying to forcibly fuck someone that doesnt want to is attempted rape no matter what language you use.

Not according to Maryland law. Their law states that rape is an attempted try for penetration. According to her claim, that never happened. She claimed that Kavanaugh jumped on top of her and held her mouth closed. Not rape or attempted rape by the statute in Maryland.

You must have read the wrong thing or someone gave you some false information. According to Maryland law its attempted rape.

Then she should go to the police and file her complaint. Maryland has no statute of limitations on sex crimes.

I agree but in the meantime I think the FBI should investigate before a sexual predator is put on the SC.

 

[Asclepias]

Kav is at this moment being accused of attempted rape. Obama hasnt even had a woman accuse him of looking at her too long.

Kavanaugh, by Ford's own words, is not accused of attempted rape.

Trying to forcibly fuck someone that doesnt want to is attempted rape no matter what language you use.

Not according to Maryland law. Their law states that rape is an attempted try for penetration. According to her claim, that never happened. She claimed that Kavanaugh jumped on top of her and held her mouth closed. Not rape or attempted rape by the statute in Maryland.

You must have read the wrong thing or someone gave you some false information. According to Maryland law its attempted rape.

Then look it up yourself. Attempted rape is not jumping on somebody and trying to keep them from screaming; as if that's what really happened.

Try this: Call your police department and tell them that somebody tried to rob you with a gun. You don't know where it took place, you don't have any witnesses, you don't even know what year it was other than 35 years ago. See what they tell you.

I did look it up. Thats why I said you didnt know what you were talking about.

Why I try something like that and what does that have to do with Kav trying to rape this woman?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

The confirmation was set a week from last Thursday. The Republicans moved that twice already, and now she wants a third move. Stalling is the game plan here, and Republicans are accommodating that within reason. But I say near two weeks is generous enough.

None of that cites any laws or provides probably cause. To address your deflection though, all the repubs had to do was request Drumpf to call in the FBI immediately and they would be done already.

The FBI doesn't investigate local teen house parties; especially ones that took place over three decades ago.

But even if they did, WTF are they supposed to find with no time frame, no location, no witnesses, nothing?

You are going to have to come to terms that the FBI thing was just another stall tactic they were trying to use. Even Katz knows that the first letter in FBI stands for Federal. She knows damn well that's not what the FBI does. It's all a dog and pony show.

Actually the FBI investigates anything they need to investigate including teen parties.

What are they supposed to find? They are supposed to find witnesses and facts. Something Kav himself should want if he is not a sexual predator.

How do you find witnesses when none are mentioned; not even a lead?

No, the FBI does not investigate any matter. They only investigate federal matters, and a teen party is not a federal matter. That's why they refused to even look at it.

There have been several witnesses mentioned and one came forth on her own that said she heard about the attempted rape indirectly from other students. Even if there were none mentioned as you claimed, thats the FBI's job to do.

The FBI investigates any matter its directed to. Its their job.

She also recanted her story. And "hearing" about a rape is different from being a witness to one.

Ford claims she never told a soul about this supposed attack until her therapy session in 2012; including her husband. Well if that's true, HTF did another student hear about it?

 

[EvilCat Breath]

The confirmation was set a week from last Thursday. The Republicans moved that twice already, and now she wants a third move. Stalling is the game plan here, and Republicans are accommodating that within reason. But I say near two weeks is generous enough.

None of that cites any laws or provides probably cause. To address your deflection though, all the repubs had to do was request Drumpf to call in the FBI immediately and they would be done already.

The FBI doesn't investigate local teen house parties; especially ones that took place over three decades ago.

But even if they did, WTF are they supposed to find with no time frame, no location, no witnesses, nothing?

You are going to have to come to terms that the FBI thing was just another stall tactic they were trying to use. Even Katz knows that the first letter in FBI stands for Federal. She knows damn well that's not what the FBI does. It's all a dog and pony show.

Actually the FBI investigates anything they need to investigate including teen parties.

What are they supposed to find? They are supposed to find witnesses and facts. Something Kav himself should want if he is not a sexual predator.

Six background checks turned up nothing. They certainly did not find any one claiming that Kavanaugh assaulted them. If he was a sexual predator as you claim, there would certainly be more women.

6 background checks didnt have this information that Ford has.

There is no information. There is no scene of the crime, there is no time when the crime occurred. Ford doesn't know how she got there or how she got home. She doesn't know if she drove or someone else drove. She has named two witnesses both of whom say it never happened.

What would form the basis of an investigation?

 

[Asclepias]

None of that cites any laws or provides probably cause. To address your deflection though, all the repubs had to do was request Drumpf to call in the FBI immediately and they would be done already.

The FBI doesn't investigate local teen house parties; especially ones that took place over three decades ago.

But even if they did, WTF are they supposed to find with no time frame, no location, no witnesses, nothing?

You are going to have to come to terms that the FBI thing was just another stall tactic they were trying to use. Even Katz knows that the first letter in FBI stands for Federal. She knows damn well that's not what the FBI does. It's all a dog and pony show.

Actually the FBI investigates anything they need to investigate including teen parties.

What are they supposed to find? They are supposed to find witnesses and facts. Something Kav himself should want if he is not a sexual predator.

How do you find witnesses when none are mentioned; not even a lead?

No, the FBI does not investigate any matter. They only investigate federal matters, and a teen party is not a federal matter. That's why they refused to even look at it.

There have been several witnesses mentioned and one came forth on her own that said she heard about the attempted rape indirectly from other students. Even if there were none mentioned as you claimed, thats the FBI's job to do.

The FBI investigates any matter its directed to. Its their job.

She also recanted her story. And "hearing" about a rape is different from being a witness to one.

Ford claims she never told a soul about this supposed attack until her therapy session in 2012; including her husband. Well if that's true, HTF did another student hear about it?

Yeah someone else tried that "recant" excuse. Obviously you dont know the definiton of recant either. She never recanted anything. She just basically told the media to leave her the fuck alone.

 

[Asclepias]

None of that cites any laws or provides probably cause. To address your deflection though, all the repubs had to do was request Drumpf to call in the FBI immediately and they would be done already.

The FBI doesn't investigate local teen house parties; especially ones that took place over three decades ago.

But even if they did, WTF are they supposed to find with no time frame, no location, no witnesses, nothing?

You are going to have to come to terms that the FBI thing was just another stall tactic they were trying to use. Even Katz knows that the first letter in FBI stands for Federal. She knows damn well that's not what the FBI does. It's all a dog and pony show.

Actually the FBI investigates anything they need to investigate including teen parties.

What are they supposed to find? They are supposed to find witnesses and facts. Something Kav himself should want if he is not a sexual predator.

Six background checks turned up nothing. They certainly did not find any one claiming that Kavanaugh assaulted them. If he was a sexual predator as you claim, there would certainly be more women.

6 background checks didnt have this information that Ford has.

There is no information. There is no scene of the crime, there is no time when the crime occurred. Ford doesn't know how she got there or how she got home. She doesn't know if she drove or someone else drove. She has named two witnesses both of whom say it never happened.

What would form the basis of an investigation?

Actually there is or we wouldnt even be talking about this. Her accusation itself is information along with the woman that said she heard other students discussing the incident.

 

[Papageorgio]

Ford identified 2 people as witnesses, one saving her from being raped. BOTH have stated IT NEVER HAPPENED. The links to this have been repeatedly posted in numerous spots.

Saying 'uh-uh' does not make it false.

YOU are either the idiot or the liar. Which is it?

That's fake news dupe. Cavanaugh and Trump know it's fake News 2. 4 days of Investigation by the FBI would be enough

He went through an investigation by the FBI already, how many times to you want him to go through an FBI investigation.

This was not part of the investigation d u h. Time's up.

You would have thought that since Feinstien knew about this in July the FBI would have been looking at it, I wonder why she withheld the information. LOL!

She said she withheld it because the Ford asked her to.

Then why did Ford tell her? Seems pointless. Ford say, Kavanaugh tried to rape me but don’t tell anyone? Is she a 6th grader? Come on, you make the accusation and stay anonymous? Tell when has that happened in this day an age? It is an accusation, Kavanaugh has a right to defend himself and face his accuser. That said Ford I believe, believes Kavenaugh attempted to rape her, however I believe she has a false memory, because a) it never came out until 2012 after a therapy session. b) she doesn’t know where it happened. c) she doesn’t know when it happened d) she doesn’t know who was there, other than Kavenaugh and Judge. e) she told no one before 2012, not even her husband because she said she didn’t remember. f) she has such clear detail of the event but no clear memory of where or when. g) she took a lie detector and passed without any other clear details. h) Kavenaugh has no recollection. I) Judge has no recollection. j) no one else has come forward with any recollection. k) her attorney is a Soros operative. l) Kavenaugh has no one else coming forward with accusations. m) she is unwilling to testify.

False memories are real, to the person who has them, however it doesn’t mean they actually happened. When you research such accusations and stories in the past, false memories follow a very similar pattern to hers.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

The FBI doesn't investigate local teen house parties; especially ones that took place over three decades ago.

But even if they did, WTF are they supposed to find with no time frame, no location, no witnesses, nothing?

You are going to have to come to terms that the FBI thing was just another stall tactic they were trying to use. Even Katz knows that the first letter in FBI stands for Federal. She knows damn well that's not what the FBI does. It's all a dog and pony show.

Actually the FBI investigates anything they need to investigate including teen parties.

What are they supposed to find? They are supposed to find witnesses and facts. Something Kav himself should want if he is not a sexual predator.

How do you find witnesses when none are mentioned; not even a lead?

No, the FBI does not investigate any matter. They only investigate federal matters, and a teen party is not a federal matter. That's why they refused to even look at it.

There have been several witnesses mentioned and one came forth on her own that said she heard about the attempted rape indirectly from other students. Even if there were none mentioned as you claimed, thats the FBI's job to do.

The FBI investigates any matter its directed to. Its their job.

She also recanted her story. And "hearing" about a rape is different from being a witness to one.

Ford claims she never told a soul about this supposed attack until her therapy session in 2012; including her husband. Well if that's true, HTF did another student hear about it?

Yeah someone else tried that "recant" excuse. Obviously you dont know the definiton of recant either. She never recanted anything. She just basically told the media to leave her the fuck alone.

Oh gee, that's not the same thing.

 

[Asclepias]

That's fake news dupe. Cavanaugh and Trump know it's fake News 2. 4 days of Investigation by the FBI would be enough

He went through an investigation by the FBI already, how many times to you want him to go through an FBI investigation.

This was not part of the investigation d u h. Time's up.

You would have thought that since Feinstien knew about this in July the FBI would have been looking at it, I wonder why she withheld the information. LOL!

She said she withheld it because the Ford asked her to.

Then why did Ford tell her? Seems pointless. Ford say, Kavanaugh tried to rape me but don’t tell anyone? Is she a 6th grader? Come on, you make the accusation and stay anonymous? Tell when has that happened in this day an age? It is an accusation, Kavanaugh has a right to defend himself and face his accuser. That said Ford I believe, believes Kavenaugh attempted to rape her, however I believe she has a false memory, because a) it never came out until 2012 after a therapy session. b) she doesn’t know where it happened. c) she doesn’t know when it happened d) she doesn’t know who was there, other than Kavenaugh and Judge. e) she told no one before 2012, not even her husband because she said she didn’t remember. f) she has such clear detail of the event but no clear memory of where or when. g) she took a lie detector and passed without any other clear details. h) Kavenaugh has no recollection. I) Judge has no recollection. j) no one else has come forward with any recollection. k) her attorney is a Soros operative. l) Kavenaugh has no one else coming forward with accusations. m) she is unwilling to testify.

False memories are real, to the person who has them, however it doesn’t mean they actually happened. When you research such accusations and stories in the past, false memories follow a very similar pattern to hers.

You would have to ask Ford that. I would have to assume she wanted Feinstein to work extra hard to keep a sexual predator off the SC.

 

[Asclepias]

Actually the FBI investigates anything they need to investigate including teen parties.

What are they supposed to find? They are supposed to find witnesses and facts. Something Kav himself should want if he is not a sexual predator.

How do you find witnesses when none are mentioned; not even a lead?

No, the FBI does not investigate any matter. They only investigate federal matters, and a teen party is not a federal matter. That's why they refused to even look at it.

There have been several witnesses mentioned and one came forth on her own that said she heard about the attempted rape indirectly from other students. Even if there were none mentioned as you claimed, thats the FBI's job to do.

The FBI investigates any matter its directed to. Its their job.

She also recanted her story. And "hearing" about a rape is different from being a witness to one.

Ford claims she never told a soul about this supposed attack until her therapy session in 2012; including her husband. Well if that's true, HTF did another student hear about it?

Yeah someone else tried that "recant" excuse. Obviously you dont know the definiton of recant either. She never recanted anything. She just basically told the media to leave her the fuck alone.

Oh gee, that's not the same thing.

Do you need a link to a dictionary? Recant means to say your previous statement was false. She never said anything even close to that.

recant Definition in the Cambridge English Dictionary

recant verb [ I/T ]
US /rɪˈkænt/
announce in public that your past beliefs or statements were wrong or not true and that you no longer agree with them:

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

How do you find witnesses when none are mentioned; not even a lead?

No, the FBI does not investigate any matter. They only investigate federal matters, and a teen party is not a federal matter. That's why they refused to even look at it.

There have been several witnesses mentioned and one came forth on her own that said she heard about the attempted rape indirectly from other students. Even if there were none mentioned as you claimed, thats the FBI's job to do.

The FBI investigates any matter its directed to. Its their job.

She also recanted her story. And "hearing" about a rape is different from being a witness to one.

Ford claims she never told a soul about this supposed attack until her therapy session in 2012; including her husband. Well if that's true, HTF did another student hear about it?

Yeah someone else tried that "recant" excuse. Obviously you dont know the definiton of recant either. She never recanted anything. She just basically told the media to leave her the fuck alone.

Oh gee, that's not the same thing.

Do you need a link to a dictionary? Recant means to say your previous statement was false. She never said anything even close to that.

If she refused to come forward with it, it's the same thing. She threw it out there until she was asked about it. In other words, she made it up.

You see if she did go forward with it, the next question would be who did she hear this from? Since she made it up, she wouldn't be able to answer the question.

 

[OKTexas]

This entire revelation of Ms. Ford is sort of suspicious to me. I think its time to exercise a search warrant on her domicile as well as her college office and her phones as well.

My suspicion is this whole thing is just a liberal scam to destroy Judge Kavanaugh's life and career. The secret is in her technological devices, no matter how clean she got them with bleach bit.

Maybe the Russians might be able to help us find her emails.

What evidence would you use to obtain a search warrant?

Not evidence, probable cause. There is probable cause to say she is intentionally interfering with governmental administration, searching for evidence of a possible conspiracy with others to that end wouldn't be unreasonable.

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Whats the probable cause?

Oh I don't know, maybe the FACT that she's currently interfering with governmental administration. And she has already engaged the services and assistance of others.

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How is she interfering with governmental administration? Please be specific and cite applicable laws that demonstrate what she is doing.

Is your google broke? Look it up yourself.

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[Asclepias]

There have been several witnesses mentioned and one came forth on her own that said she heard about the attempted rape indirectly from other students. Even if there were none mentioned as you claimed, thats the FBI's job to do.

The FBI investigates any matter its directed to. Its their job.

She also recanted her story. And "hearing" about a rape is different from being a witness to one.

Ford claims she never told a soul about this supposed attack until her therapy session in 2012; including her husband. Well if that's true, HTF did another student hear about it?

Yeah someone else tried that "recant" excuse. Obviously you dont know the definiton of recant either. She never recanted anything. She just basically told the media to leave her the fuck alone.

Oh gee, that's not the same thing.

Do you need a link to a dictionary? Recant means to say your previous statement was false. She never said anything even close to that.

If she refused to come forward with it, it's the same thing. She threw it out there until she was asked about it. In other words, she made it up.

You see if she did go forward with it, the next question would be who did she hear this from? Since she made it up, she wouldn't be able to answer the question.

No its not the same thing. Only someone lacking in vocabulary would say its the same thing.

 

[Asclepias]

What evidence would you use to obtain a search warrant?

Not evidence, probable cause. There is probable cause to say she is intentionally interfering with governmental administration, searching for evidence of a possible conspiracy with others to that end wouldn't be unreasonable.

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Whats the probable cause?

Oh I don't know, maybe the FACT that she's currently interfering with governmental administration. And she has already engaged the services and assistance of others.

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How is she interfering with governmental administration? Please be specific and cite applicable laws that demonstrate what she is doing.

Is your google broke? Look it up yourself.

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I cant look up something that doesnt exist. At least give me a link.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

She also recanted her story. And "hearing" about a rape is different from being a witness to one.

Ford claims she never told a soul about this supposed attack until her therapy session in 2012; including her husband. Well if that's true, HTF did another student hear about it?

Yeah someone else tried that "recant" excuse. Obviously you dont know the definiton of recant either. She never recanted anything. She just basically told the media to leave her the fuck alone.

Oh gee, that's not the same thing.

Do you need a link to a dictionary? Recant means to say your previous statement was false. She never said anything even close to that.

If she refused to come forward with it, it's the same thing. She threw it out there until she was asked about it. In other words, she made it up.

You see if she did go forward with it, the next question would be who did she hear this from? Since she made it up, she wouldn't be able to answer the question.

No its not the same thing. Only someone lacking in vocabulary would say its the same thing.

You are trying to Clintonize this. Go to the police department and tell them you witnessed an auto accident. When questioned about it, say you don't want to get involved. What's the difference between backing off your claim and saying you made it up?

 

[OKTexas]

while I was pointing out an example of how easily rumors can get started

Which is a red herring, because this is not a "rumor", but rather an explicit claim by the alleged victim.

For it not to be a rumor it would need to be substantiated by facts like time and place, I haven't seen any indication those facts are available, so yeah, it's a rumor. Who started it is irrelevant.

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You obviously need a dictionary.

I got one:

ru·mor
[ˈro͞omər]
NOUN

1. a currently circulating story or report of uncertain or doubtful truth.
   "they were investigating rumors of a massacre" ·
   gossip · hearsay · talk · tittle-tattle · the grapevine ·
   reportedly · reputedly ·
   [more]

I'd say that fits the Ford story pretty well.

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[Asclepias]

Yeah someone else tried that "recant" excuse. Obviously you dont know the definiton of recant either. She never recanted anything. She just basically told the media to leave her the fuck alone.

Oh gee, that's not the same thing.

Do you need a link to a dictionary? Recant means to say your previous statement was false. She never said anything even close to that.

If she refused to come forward with it, it's the same thing. She threw it out there until she was asked about it. In other words, she made it up.

You see if she did go forward with it, the next question would be who did she hear this from? Since she made it up, she wouldn't be able to answer the question.

No its not the same thing. Only someone lacking in vocabulary would say its the same thing.

You are trying to Clintonize this. Go to the police department and tell them you witnessed an auto accident. When questioned about it, say you don't want to get involved. What's the difference between backing off your claim and saying you made it up?

"What's the difference between backing off your claim and saying you made it up?"

You just stated the difference. One is backing off your claim and the other is saying you made it up. Whats really killing your logic though is she hasnt backed off her claim at all. She just said she wasnt going to discuss it with the media. She was pretty specific about that.

 

[Papageorgio]

He went through an investigation by the FBI already, how many times to you want him to go through an FBI investigation.

This was not part of the investigation d u h. Time's up.

You would have thought that since Feinstien knew about this in July the FBI would have been looking at it, I wonder why she withheld the information. LOL!

She said she withheld it because the Ford asked her to.

Then why did Ford tell her? Seems pointless. Ford say, Kavanaugh tried to rape me but don’t tell anyone? Is she a 6th grader? Come on, you make the accusation and stay anonymous? Tell when has that happened in this day an age? It is an accusation, Kavanaugh has a right to defend himself and face his accuser. That said Ford I believe, believes Kavenaugh attempted to rape her, however I believe she has a false memory, because a) it never came out until 2012 after a therapy session. b) she doesn’t know where it happened. c) she doesn’t know when it happened d) she doesn’t know who was there, other than Kavenaugh and Judge. e) she told no one before 2012, not even her husband because she said she didn’t remember. f) she has such clear detail of the event but no clear memory of where or when. g) she took a lie detector and passed without any other clear details. h) Kavenaugh has no recollection. I) Judge has no recollection. j) no one else has come forward with any recollection. k) her attorney is a Soros operative. l) Kavenaugh has no one else coming forward with accusations. m) she is unwilling to testify.

False memories are real, to the person who has them, however it doesn’t mean they actually happened. When you research such accusations and stories in the past, false memories follow a very similar pattern to hers.

You would have to ask Ford that. I would have to assume she wanted Feinstein to work extra hard to keep a sexual predator off the SC.

Absolutely no proof that Kavenaugh is a sexual predator, none what so ever. If her memory is false then I could see why she would not want Kavenaugh on the court, however there is absolutely no evidence, no witnesses and no time or place.

 

[Asclepias]

while I was pointing out an example of how easily rumors can get started

Which is a red herring, because this is not a "rumor", but rather an explicit claim by the alleged victim.

For it not to be a rumor it would need to be substantiated by facts like time and place, I haven't seen any indication those facts are available, so yeah, it's a rumor. Who started it is irrelevant.

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You obviously need a dictionary.

I got one:

ru·mor
[ˈro͞omər]
NOUN

1. a currently circulating story or report of uncertain or doubtful truth.
   "they were investigating rumors of a massacre" ·
   gossip · hearsay · talk · tittle-tattle · the grapevine ·
   reportedly · reputedly ·
   [more]

I'd say that fits the Ford story pretty well.

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You need someone holding your hand and helping you with the correct terminology.

ac·cu·sa·tion
ˌakyəˈzāSH(ə)n/
noun

1. a charge or claim that someone has done something illegal or wrong.

Id say instead of a rumor we should label it what it is. An accusation.