Make no mistake about it...RFK is the most important person in this coming administration.

[Fort Fun Indiana]

The list of toxic additives is phenomenal.

Things aren't "toxic", just because RFK Jr. says so.

 

[justoffal]

Things aren't "toxic", just because RFK Jr. says so.

No....they're toxic because they're toxic

Some food additives that are banned in Europe but not in the United States include:

Potassium bromate
A suspected carcinogen that's used to strengthen dough in baked goods. The International Agency for Research on Cancer considers it a possible human carcinogen.

Azodicarbonamide (ADA)
A whitening agent in cereal flour and dough conditioner that breaks down into cancer-causing chemicals during baking.

Sudan dyes
Also known as Azo dyes, these are thought to cause genetic defects and allergic skin reactions. They are often added to brightly colored spices like chili powders, curries, and paprika.

Aspartame
Studies by the Cesare Maltoni Cancer Research Center of the European Ramazzini Foundation of Oncology and Environmental Sciences (ERF) claim it increases several malignancies in rodents.

Potassium sorbate
A preservative used to suppress molds and yeasts in foods, wines, and personal care products. In-vitro studies suggest it is toxic to DNA and has a negative affect on immunity.

Tip of the iceberg

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

No....they're toxic because they're toxic

So no you're saying they're toxic because YOU say they are.

Not gonna cut it.

Aspartame
Studies by the Cesare Maltoni Cancer Research Center of the European Ramazzini Foundation of Oncology and Environmental Sciences (ERF) claim it increases several malignancies in rodents.

In what doses?

You're not making any points.

Plenty of chemicals are safe in small doses, but toxic in large doses.

There is zero evidence to connect normal doses of aspartame with any illness in humans.

Zero.

 

[justoffal]

So no you're saying they're toxic because YOU say they are.

Not gonna cut it.





In what doses?

You're not making any points.

Plenty of chemicals are safe in small doses, but toxic in large doses.

There is zero evidence to connect normal doses of aspartame with any illness in humans.

Zero.

It's not me saying it ...this is the EU food agency banned list.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

It's not me saying it ...this is the EU food agency banned list.

So what? The EU bans things by votes of nonscientiats who understand nothing about any of it. Might as well take a vote here.

 

[justoffal]

So what? The EU bans things by votes of nonscientiats who understand nothing about any of it. Might as well take a vote here.

Still no progress.

Don't know too much about the EU....
However these appear to have been well studied.
Having said that I am aware of their penchant for just banning things.... so you may have a point.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

It's not me saying it ...this is the EU food agency banned list.

Like this one...

In the news – Titanium Dioxide Safety Update

European lawmakers take a second look at titanium dioxide.

www.canr.msu.edu

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

However these appear to have been well studied.

And shown to pose no danger.

Like the example above.

You don't get to use "they are well studied" as support for your argument, when you are contradicting the conclusions of the body of scientific work.

 

[22lcidw]

So what? The EU bans things by votes of nonscientiats who understand nothing about any of it. Might as well take a vote here.

Most Americans will say something about our food and products we use if there are any questions of what ingredients they have. It does not hurt to study them out in the open. In fact, Progs should have done this.

 

[justoffal]

And shown to pose no danger.

Like the example above.

You don't get to use "they are well studied" as support for your argument, when you are contradicting the conclusions of the body of scientific work.

Um no ...it never said "shown to pose no danger "

I'm not contradicting the quotes I am supporting them as most likely valid

Not sure where contradiction applies here.

Jo

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Um no ...it never said shown to pose no danger
I'm not contradicting the quotes I am supporting them.

You're not. You are contradicting the body of science.

"Water poses a danger.". It's poisonous, in high doses.

This is what you are doing. Half truths and falsehoods.

Same for the dangerous fuckwit RFK Jr.

 

[justoffal]

Most Americans will say something about our food and products we use if there are any questions of what ingredients they have. It does not hurt to study them out in the open. In fact, Progs should have done this.

Normally they would....but now it has become political. So they automatically run to the other side.

RFK is on to something...it's long overdue. Unfortunately It could also mean rising food prices. However obesity is costing billions in healthcare costs and lost productivity.

 

[justoffal]

You're not. You are contradicting the body of science.

"Water poses a danger.". It's poisonous, in high doses.

This is what you are doing. Half truths and falsehoods.

Same for the dangerous fuckwit RFK Jr.

Nonsense....
Now you're too far out on a limb and just sound ridiculous.

You're making politics out of health science ...
It fails. Alarms about these additives far predate RFK's political career.

He's onto something big ....
He will face tremendous opposition.

 

[justoffal]

So no you're saying they're toxic because YOU say they are.

Not gonna cut it.





In what doses?

You're not making any points.

Plenty of chemicals are safe in small doses, but toxic in large doses.

There is zero evidence to connect normal doses of aspartame with any illness in humans.

Zero.

You have no idea what a normal dose is.

One person may drink a 12 ounce soda once a week. Another every five minutes...
So ..no...you fail here again.

 

[justoffal]

Like this one...

In the news – Titanium Dioxide Safety Update

European lawmakers take a second look at titanium dioxide.

www.canr.msu.edu

Relevance?

It's not a food additive.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

RFK is on to something...

No he isn't.

He has no education or experience in any relevant field.

He read some blogs he doesn't understand.

He knows nothing about any of it.

Scientists and doctors are sounding the alarms over his lies.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Relevance?

It's not a food additive.

It most certainly is.

Start over.

 

[justoffal]

It most certainly is.

Start over.

Indeed ... Still not relevant.

I'm sure many things are safe but there's no question that we are subjected to corporate poisoning at the behest of the bean counters.

Citing something that has been found to be safe (by the same process that is was used to determine other things are dangerous by the way) does not automatically reverse findings of scientific agencies sounding the alarm.

You have fallen pray to your politics.... Never more obvious than now.

 

[justoffal]

No he isn't.

He has no education or experience in any relevant field.

He read some blogs he doesn't understand.

He knows nothing about any of it.

Scientists and doctors are sounding the alarms over his lies.

Once again you assume the need for university approval before being able to use simple common sense to see the danger in something.

The argument no longer works. I don't need a PhD to diagnose a flat tire. Nor do I need a PhD to understand That the American public is suffering from an obesity epidemic.

RFK is most definitely onto something.... But he's not alone.

Look beyond your politics... You are not well served by them.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Indeed ... Still not relevant.

It's a food additive banned in Europe.

The science shows it is safe. As you can see by reading the article I posted to you.

100% relevant to your point.

Once again you assume the need for university approval before being able to use simple common sense to see the danger in something.

Well of course. Your common sense isn't worth shit. That's why we were using leeches and cocaine cough syrup and exorcists for 100,000 years, until science came along.