Indeependent
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From which University did you receive your medical degree?
Major Report in on the benefits of the Vaccine
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How they came to their figures is all speculation and conjecture, moron.This is the Commonweath Fund, one of the most respected foundations in the world..
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Since then, the U.S. has administered more than 655 million doses — 80 percent of the population has received at least one dose — with the cumulative effect of preventing more than 18 million additional hospitalizations and more than 3 million additional deaths.
Without vaccination, there would have been nearly 120 million more COVID-19 infections. The vaccination program also saved the U.S. $1.15 trillion (Credible Interval: $1.10 trillion–$1.19 trillion) (data not shown) in medical costs that would otherwise have been incurred.
Two Years of U.S. COVID-19 Vaccines Have Prevented Millions of Hospitalizations and Deaths
Evidence supports the debate over whether or not vaccines help COVID management and transmission. Discover what ways COVID vaccines have helped.www.commonwealthfund.org
Now before you answer this is a report with evidence and shows how it came to their figures... If you want to be critical, please be specific while using actual proper evidence.
Posting propagada bullshit just means you want to shit on the 1 million US Citizens that died in this pandemic.
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HOW WE CONDUCTED THIS STUDY
To evaluate the impact of the vaccination program in the United States, we expanded our age-stratified, agent-based model of COVID-19 to include waning of naturally acquired or vaccine-elicited immunity, as well as booster vaccination. For the timelines of this study, the characteristics of five variants were included in the model, each with cumulative prevalence of at least 3 percent in the U.S., including Iota, Alpha, Gamma, Delta, and Omicron, in addition to the original Wuhan-I SARS-CoV-2 strain.
The model parameters included the population demographics of the U.S., prevalence of comorbidities, an empirically determined contact network accounting for changes in pandemic restrictions and mobility patterns, as well as age-specific risks of severe health outcomes because of COVID-19. The model incorporated data on daily vaccine doses administered in the U.S. and implemented the age-based expansion of the vaccination program. The minimum age eligibility for vaccination was 16 years before May 13, 2021, after which children 12 to 15 became eligible for vaccination. Vaccination of children ages 5 to 11 with Pfizer-BioNTech started on November 2, 2021; vaccination of children ages 6 months to 5 years began on June 18, 2022. First boosters were authorized to elderly people and individuals with comorbidities on September 1, 2021, and expanded to other age groups over the next few months. On March 29, 2022, an additional booster was recommended, and an Omicron-specific booster was introduced on September 1, 2022.
Vaccine efficacies against infection, and symptomatic and severe disease for different vaccine types — for each variant and by time since vaccination — were drawn from published estimates. The model was calibrated to reported national incidence data between October 1, 2020, and November 30, 2022, and validated with the trends of hospitalizations and deaths.
We evaluated the impact of vaccine rollout by simulating the pandemic trajectory under the counterfactual scenario without vaccination. The simulated outcomes of total infections, hospitalizations, and deaths were compared to the fitted model, reflecting the actual pandemic in the U.S. and vaccinations that occurred between December 12, 2020, and November 30, 2022. We then estimated medical cost savings based on these averted outcomes, as previously described."
Two Years of U.S. COVID-19 Vaccines Have Prevented Millions of Hospitalizations and Deaths
Evidence supports the debate over whether or not vaccines help COVID management and transmission. Discover what ways COVID vaccines have helped.
Buncha bullshit.
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Again Conspiracy theory with no actual evidence....
C19 – What have we learned about the mechanics of global genocide over the last three years? Some rambling thoughts
First, a confession. I am growing a little frustrated at the evolving guerrilla attacks against the enemy in what is a global civil war. I consider the antics of most governments globally to be reminiscent of the period prior to the American Revolution of 1776, where the oppressors were the...peterhalligan.substack.com
Our leaders are pure filth.
"The SARS-COV2 virus has a spike protein developed by the US Department of Defence that was circulating in Europe by June 2019 at the latest. There is evidence that prototypes of the SARS-COV2 virus were circulating in east Ukraine as early as 2015 – called “California Flu” - which was killing and disabling hundreds of soldiers and civilians. The origins of the SARS-COV2 virus did not originate in a Wuhan lab, or with a bat. They evolved over years.
· Shell companies like MetaBiota and EcoHealth Alliance are sub-contractors to the DoD and are funded by the US and other countries’ health agency alphabet soups.
· The DoD has had pandemic planning in place for years. World leaders rubber stamped the (revised and updated (over the four-six months prior to the Event 201 meeting) C19 response in less than 4 hours in New York on 18 October 2019 at the Event 201 meeting."
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Don't need a medical degree but I can read papers and I have a degree in statistics...
Saying that I trust a an actual educated professional over a guy on the internet...
Understand the peer review process is taught and that what makes the difference...
Most of the guys here try for conspiracy theories and are easily led... Do you know how many people would have to be involved to rig the excess deaths reports from the CDC? It would involve thousands of all different political views... That is not possible..
Indeependent
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My daughter is a doctor and her mother-in-law worked for Eli-Lilly for 35 years...there wasn't enough time to evaluate the vaccination but the fact that it was a plague caused them to get the shots.
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They're the same people who when gasping for breath in an ER will be begging for "the jab".
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Do you under stand the publishing process in science...How they came to their figures is all speculation and conjecture, moron.
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HOW WE CONDUCTED THIS STUDY
To evaluate the impact of the vaccination program in the United States, we expanded our age-stratified, agent-based model of COVID-19 to include waning of naturally acquired or vaccine-elicited immunity, as well as booster vaccination. For the timelines of this study, the characteristics of five variants were included in the model, each with cumulative prevalence of at least 3 percent in the U.S., including Iota, Alpha, Gamma, Delta, and Omicron, in addition to the original Wuhan-I SARS-CoV-2 strain.
The model parameters included the population demographics of the U.S., prevalence of comorbidities, an empirically determined contact network accounting for changes in pandemic restrictions and mobility patterns, as well as age-specific risks of severe health outcomes because of COVID-19. The model incorporated data on daily vaccine doses administered in the U.S. and implemented the age-based expansion of the vaccination program. The minimum age eligibility for vaccination was 16 years before May 13, 2021, after which children 12 to 15 became eligible for vaccination. Vaccination of children ages 5 to 11 with Pfizer-BioNTech started on November 2, 2021; vaccination of children ages 6 months to 5 years began on June 18, 2022. First boosters were authorized to elderly people and individuals with comorbidities on September 1, 2021, and expanded to other age groups over the next few months. On March 29, 2022, an additional booster was recommended, and an Omicron-specific booster was introduced on September 1, 2022.
Vaccine efficacies against infection, and symptomatic and severe disease for different vaccine types — for each variant and by time since vaccination — were drawn from published estimates. The model was calibrated to reported national incidence data between October 1, 2020, and November 30, 2022, and validated with the trends of hospitalizations and deaths.
We evaluated the impact of vaccine rollout by simulating the pandemic trajectory under the counterfactual scenario without vaccination. The simulated outcomes of total infections, hospitalizations, and deaths were compared to the fitted model, reflecting the actual pandemic in the U.S. and vaccinations that occurred between December 12, 2020, and November 30, 2022. We then estimated medical cost savings based on these averted outcomes, as previously described."
Two Years of U.S. COVID-19 Vaccines Have Prevented Millions of Hospitalizations and Deaths
Evidence supports the debate over whether or not vaccines help COVID management and transmission. Discover what ways COVID vaccines have helped.
Buncha bullshit.
Simulations are perfectly acceptable in science and it is how things are forecasted... They do the same thing in insurance, life and pensions,....
It is how experts put things together.
We don't need to throw a bunch of people off a building to figure out how may will die or get injured... We have simulations for that...
We use weather forecasts and it is not done in sharpie and a guess...
These are estimates based using evidence and facts. Can you refute them with different evidence or facts?
This is the real world, do you ignore weather forecasts, do you use electricity, water, oil,... All these are supplied using simulated outcomes... Gets cold, need more oil... Get hot need more water and electricity....
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Gee, I didn't think that pointing out that Trump got "the jab" would drive you to post in CAPS! I probably shouldn't mention that he also received- here goes, the jab booster!
Have a nice day!
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Wow, so they are experts on RNA vaccine technology?
Vaccines are prepared every year for the flu... They are different every year... How does that work?
I worked for Novartis and it is very possible... Not cheap in that time scale but very possible... It amazing what the most inefficient companies in the world can do when they stop delaying things...
But they got vaccinated will tell what you need to know...
Trump, Fox employees and nearly everyone in congress all got vaccinated...
Note: Trump told us he got vaccinated and his doctor agreed with him. The proof that he didn't relies on someone that saying he is lying.
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Proof, Evidence...
You can question but show us the flaws in it... That is how science works... Actually that is how real world works too,
Indeependent
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I hope you're not as stupid as your post...
Phamaceutical companies test their vaccines on animals and anyone going for a degree in medicine has to know about DNA.
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Where is your credible evidence of your bullshit, Mike? The countries which didn't let the infection run free, didn't crash their economies testing a billion people or treating the 100 million who became sick.
With 3% of the world's population, you idiots managed to have 20% of the world's deaths. Canada's death rate was 1/3 of yours and our economy has recovered faster too. We been 80% fully vaxxed since Fall of 2021 and fully reopened since last March.
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They are getting annoyed because we are still asking for evidence and facts and they are struggling...
When Trump lied in the past, we showed it with proof... If they want to say he is lying this time(about getting vaccinated), show us with proof.
Indeependent
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The FBI already admitted they fucked up with the Documents grab.
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Yea, they took love letters betwween him & Kim Jong Un that Trump was jizzing himself over.
Indeependent
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You mean the dictator that was lobbing bombs at Taiwan until Trump told him to stop.
Have you always been this stupid?
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DNA???
I am talking about messanger RNA vaccine (mRNA or RNA).... This is the type of vaccine used most...
Selecting Viruses for the Seasonal Flu Vaccine
Vaccine composition is reviewed each year and updated as needed based on which influenza viruses are making people sick.
www.cdc.gov
Flu vaccine tested on humans as well
Human serology studies
Indeependent
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I know what you're talking about.DNA???
I am talking about messanger RNA vaccine (mRNA or RNA).... This is the type of vaccine used most...
Selecting Viruses for the Seasonal Flu Vaccine
Vaccine composition is reviewed each year and updated as needed based on which influenza viruses are making people sick.
Flu vaccine tested on humans as well
Human serology studies
My daughter is well aware of it's extensive use on animals.
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