Maccabi Tel Aviv fans banned from Birmingham

Deadstick said:
This happened there, a full blown riot at the Heysal Stadium left 39 Juventus fans dead, i remember watching it live on TV, terrible it was, i also saw one of the Juventus Hooligans with a gun.
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¿Fans? - what do you call "fans" here? Football is a game. In the end, only one team will win the cup. All others are "losers" and have to lick their "wounds". But never anyone is a real loser who plays fair and behaves fair. Normally it are always only single "fans" - no idea what game this idiots really play - who lose control over their aggression because they anyway do not like to control themselves and their aggression. Such people are criminals and not football fans. And "No one plays football with a gun" is not an element of football but a matter of course. A terrorist - not "fan" - who tries to enter a football stadium with a gun should be immediatelly arrested and be punished hard.

By the way: It had been Palestinian terrorists who broke the Olympic peace in Munich in 1972 and decades later it had also been Palestinian terrorists who slaughtered many people who visited a music festival just a short time ago in Israel. And the international politics is full of sympathy for the poor terrorists of the Hamas who have to suffer so hard. Why else had 160 nation in the world voted for the independence of Gaza as a nation and for their terrorist Hamas rulers - without demanding that the Palestinians change their behavior. What had happened internationally with the knowledge of good and evil?

And what is this discussion here really about? The police in Birmingham lives in fear of football fans? Exists any policeman in the world who is not a fan of football or another sport?
 
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zaangalewa said:
¿Fans? - what do you call "fans" here? Football is a game. In the end, only one team will win the cup. All others are "losers" and have to lick their "wounds". But never anyone is a real loser who plays fair and behaves fair. Normally it are always only single "fans" - no idea what game this idiots really play - who lose control over their aggression because they anyway do not like to control themselves and their aggression. Such people are criminals and not football fans. And "No one plays football with a gun" is not an element of football but a matter of course. A terrorist - not "fan" - who tries to enter a football stadium with a gun should be immediatelly arrested and be punished hard.

By the way: It had been Palestinian terrorists who broke the Olympic peace in Munich in 1972 and decades later it had also been Palestinian terrorists who slaughtered many people who visited a music festival just a short time ago in Israel. And the international politics is full of sympathy for the poor terrorists of the Hamas who have to suffer so hard. Why else had 160 nation in the world voted for the independence of Gaza as a nation and for their terrorist Hamas rulers - without demanding that the Palestinians change their behavior. What had happened internationally with the knowledge of good and evil?

And what is this discussion here really about? The police in Birmingham lives in fear of football fans? Exists any policeman in the world who is not a fan of football or another sport?
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Fuckng nazi.
 
Tommy Tainant said:
Fuckng nazi.
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The Nazi is you. I think it's not any real problem when Israeli and Brits play football. When criminals and politicians cause problems then they should first of all solve their own problems. For sure it's not any problem when Israeli and Brits play football - as long as it's a good and relatively fair game.



PS, Not to forget: [Some of your] British "fans" are often a problem all over Europe. Nevertheless you are welcome.

And a second PS: It gives indeed a historical line directly from the atheist Adolf Hitler to the Hamas. And the Darwinian racism of the Nazis not had been a German invention or tradition - it had been a British invention and tradition. Even the confusion between the words Aryan and Arian swapped from the English speaking world to Germany (we once had been Arians but never Aryans) - this came to Germany in a similar way how in more modern times swapped school massacres from the USA to Germany. You glorify your "civilized" world - but your own world has also lots of problems with senseless aggression - much more problems than has Germany or Israel. Very peaceful nations. But some others can drive anyone crazy.
 
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Tommy Tainant said:
Kumbaya I think. The thugs aint coming and only the team itself will pollute these shores. The Villa will make short work of them.
EUFA needs to take some action to prevent these extremists coming in future.
A win for the community.
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Jewish people are extremists? Wow, now I have heard it all.
 
zaangalewa said:
The Nazi is you. I think it's not any real problem when Israeli and Brits play football. When criminals and politicians cause problems then they should first of all solve their own problems. For sure it's not any problem when Israeli and Brits play football - as long as it's a good and relatively fair game.



PS, Not to forget: [Some of your] British "fans" are often a problem all over Europe. Nevertheless you are welcome.

And a second PS: It gives indeed a historical line directly from the atheist Adolf Hitler to the Hamas. And the Darwinian racism of the Nazis not had been a German invention or tradition - it had been a British invention and tradition. Even the confusion between the words Aryan and Arian swapped from the English speaking world to Germany (we once had been Arians but never Aryans) - this came to Germany in a similar way how in more modern times swapped school massacres from the USA to Germany. You glorify your "civilized" world - but your own world has also lots of problems with senseless aggression - much more problems than has Germany or Israel. Very peaceful nations. But some others can drive anyone crazy.
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it becomes a fashion that guest fans are banned
 
Tommy Tainant said:
Perhaps they should concentrate on playing football in Trl Aviv ? They arent allowed to at present.
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What a luck that you are allowed to be a stupid political ideologist who not has to know what's a ball and international understanding. But football players and football fans know a lot about this theme in reality - and not in absurd fake ideas about this what others should be allowed to do or not be allowed to do, ruler of your tea cup world.

 
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Tommy Tainant said:
www.expressandstar.com

West Midlands Police reveal plans to deploy 'more than 700' officers for controversial Aston Villa vs Maccabi Tel Aviv fixture

More than 700 West Midlands Police officers will be in attendance for Aston Villa's controversial Europa League match against Maccabi Tel Aviv at Villa Park later this week.
www.expressandstar.com www.expressandstar.com

700 police on duty for this game. Who is paying for that ?
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You. If not you then someone else from your country. And some others of your people get all this money. But we can do so also internationally and then GB - whoever this is - will also have to pay a lot. British fans are not famous because of their discipline.
 
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Zincwarrior said:
Isn't that what the entire test of Europe says about BRITISH soccer fans? The only ones nearly as bad appear to be Russian fans.
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Didn't the whole hooligan culture out there in world soccer start in England? If you want to watch something interesting about hooligan culture, there's a series of YouTube videos called "The Real Football Factories" with Danny Dyer. Not only does he talk about the hooligan culture and its history, but he gets to talk to people within the groups to talk about when it's like on the inside. There's a series for just English regions and he has a series for hooligans in other countries.
 
zaangalewa said:
You. If not you then someone else from your country. And some others of your people get all this money. But we can do so also internationally and then GB - whoever this is - will also have to pay a lot. British fans are not famous because of their discipline.
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I know its not your native language.
 
PeanutGallery said:
Didn't the whole hooligan culture out there in world soccer start in England? If you want to watch something interesting about hooligan culture, there's a series of YouTube videos called "The Real Football Factories" with Danny Dyer. Not only does he talk about the hooligan culture and its history, but he gets to talk to people within the groups to talk about when it's like on the inside. There's a series for just English regions and he has a series for hooligans in other countries.
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Hooliganism in the UK has largely been policed out of existence Dyer makes a goof living from it. I wouldnt take him as gospel.
 
Tommy Tainant said:
Hooliganism in the UK has largely been policed out of existence Dyer makes a goof living from it. I wouldnt take him as gospel.
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However, his videos talk to members of the firms that's supposedly policed out of existence. Might want to tell them that they don't really exist anymore. It sure will be news to them. I'm guessing the potential problems for the Maccabi fans is that Birmingham is nearly 30% Muslim, and the police don't trust the locals will be gracious hosts.
 
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