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Any good Cult can claim they have "Consensus"
It's one of the hallmarks of a good cult....if they don't have consensus, then they are no better than a third rate back room cult.
 

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Remember this, from the first Republican President?

You can fool all the people some of the time, and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time.


Looks like the Global Warming Scam has run its course.


"New Gallup Poll: Americans do not even mention global warming as a problem – 36 ‘problems’ cited, but not climate

According to the latest Gallup poll, NOBODY thinks global warming is our most important problem, contrary to what NRCM, Audubon and CLF sock puppets tell us."
New Gallup Poll: Americans do not even mention global warming as a problem – 36 ‘problems’ cited, but not climate



Oh, noooozzzzz!!!!

Now we're gonna have to find a whole new bunch of human piñatas!!!

According to a March 25, 2019 Poll:

Americans as Concerned as Ever About Global Warming

66% believe global warming is caused by human activity, near all-time high
65% Say most scientist believe Global Warming is
occurring
59% Believe the effects of Global Warning have already begun
For the first time since 2001, a majority of Americans are classified as Concerned Believers.
Americans as Concerned as Ever About Global Warming
Another SINGLE CONCERN poll, which is why it is misleading since there is no contrast to many OTHER possible concerns that could be considered.

Warmists sure like single concern polls as it can be presented in a misleading way very easily. By EXCLUDING many other concerns to just a single concern, you can make small percentage of climate concern in a multiple poll, to be a big percentage number of concern in a single concern poll.

You never learned to think logically.
 
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Remember this, from the first Republican President?

You can fool all the people some of the time, and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time.


Looks like the Global Warming Scam has run its course.


"New Gallup Poll: Americans do not even mention global warming as a problem – 36 ‘problems’ cited, but not climate

According to the latest Gallup poll, NOBODY thinks global warming is our most important problem, contrary to what NRCM, Audubon and CLF sock puppets tell us."
New Gallup Poll: Americans do not even mention global warming as a problem – 36 ‘problems’ cited, but not climate



Oh, noooozzzzz!!!!

Now we're gonna have to find a whole new bunch of human piñatas!!!

According to a March 25, 2019 Poll:

Americans as Concerned as Ever About Global Warming

66% believe global warming is caused by human activity, near all-time high
65% Say most scientist believe Global Warming is
occurring
59% Believe the effects of Global Warning have already begun
For the first time since 2001, a majority of Americans are classified as Concerned Believers.
Americans as Concerned as Ever About Global Warming
Oh look another dishonest, misleading SINGLE ISSUE polling mantra, where you can always get a high score on something because there are no other concerns allowed to reduce the score. Dishonest and misleading, don't you climate doomsday nuts ever think about what you write?

Go back to post ONE, where it allows open ended MULTIPLE issues to be CHOSEN in a poll that makes clear what people really think about global warming, it didn't even get a single mention. That is the honest way to gauge how people place their concerns that are important to them.
Flopper writes:

Actually it is listed (Environment/Pollution).
The link in your post does not point directly to Gallup but Climate Depot, a project of CFACT, a climate change denier for over two decades. If you follow the links, you will see it does not lead to to the Gallup survey at all but to a PDF which is not the survey but information on how a survey on consumption habits was conducted. Pardon me if I'm a bit suspicious but I find most of the climate change denier's links either don't support their article, are misleading or complete fabrications.
New Gallup Poll: Americans do not even mention global warming as a problem – 36 ‘problems’ cited, but not climate

Satisfaction With the U.S. and Most Important Problem (Trends)

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My reply:

It is clear you didn't bother to get past the chart in Climate Depot, where the link to the GALLUP website is found, and the poll question and chart they had quoted from. Here is the Gallup website with the question and the results of the poll ALL on the Gallup WEBSITE itself.

Satisfaction With the U.S. and Most Important Problem (Trends)

In general, are you satisfied or dissatisfied with the way things are going in the United States at this time? What do you think is the most important problem facing this country today?


PDF poll result in the LINK
===

Your lie has been exposed.

It is clear you never read page FIVE (5) of the PDF, where it showed that Climate Depot honestly quoted, showing the results of the survey based on the question.

You are a lousy reader!
 
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Looks like Conservative misinformation is working
It's seriously embarrassing. A bunch of fuck mouthed rednecks from the United States have unraveled the global conspiracy being pushed by some of the most educated people on Earth. Right...
Then why won't one of the Archbishops for "some of the most educated people on Earth" turn over his papers to a court of law for review?

 

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Remember this, from the first Republican President?

You can fool all the people some of the time, and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time.


Looks like the Global Warming Scam has run its course.


"New Gallup Poll: Americans do not even mention global warming as a problem – 36 ‘problems’ cited, but not climate

According to the latest Gallup poll, NOBODY thinks global warming is our most important problem, contrary to what NRCM, Audubon and CLF sock puppets tell us."
New Gallup Poll: Americans do not even mention global warming as a problem – 36 ‘problems’ cited, but not climate



Oh, noooozzzzz!!!!

Now we're gonna have to find a whole new bunch of human piñatas!!!

According to a March 25, 2019 Poll:

Americans as Concerned as Ever About Global Warming

66% believe global warming is caused by human activity, near all-time high
65% Say most scientist believe Global Warming is
occurring
59% Believe the effects of Global Warning have already begun
For the first time since 2001, a majority of Americans are classified as Concerned Believers.
Americans as Concerned as Ever About Global Warming
Oh look another dishonest, misleading SINGLE ISSUE polling mantra, where you can always get a high score on something because there are no other concerns allowed to reduce the score. Dishonest and misleading, don't you climate doomsday nuts ever think about what you write?

Go back to post ONE, where it allows open ended MULTIPLE issues to be CHOSEN in a poll that makes clear what people really think about global warming, it didn't even get a single mention. That is the honest way to gauge how people place their concerns that are important to them.
Flopper writes:

Actually it is listed (Environment/Pollution).
The link in your post does not point directly to Gallup but Climate Depot, a project of CFACT, a climate change denier for over two decades. If you follow the links, you will see it does not lead to to the Gallup survey at all but to a PDF which is not the survey but information on how a survey on consumption habits was conducted. Pardon me if I'm a bit suspicious but I find most of the climate change denier's links either don't support their article, are misleading or complete fabrications.
New Gallup Poll: Americans do not even mention global warming as a problem – 36 ‘problems’ cited, but not climate

Satisfaction With the U.S. and Most Important Problem (Trends)

=====================

My reply:

It is clear you didn't bother to get past the chart in Climate Depot, where the link to the GALLUP website is found, and the poll question and chart they had quoted from. Here is the Gallup website with the question and the results of the poll ALL on the Gallup WEBSITE itself.

Satisfaction With the U.S. and Most Important Problem (Trends)

In general, are you satisfied or dissatisfied with the way things are going in the United States at this time? What do you think is the most important problem facing this country today?


PDF poll result in the LINK
===

Your lie has been exposed.

It is clear you never read page FIVE (5) of the PDF, where it showed that Climate Depot honestly quoted, showing the results of the survey based on the question.

You are a lousy reader!
There are no climate deniers-everybody knows we have climate. Everybody also knows that the climate is always changing. The argument is, does man's activity hasten global warming?
 

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Remember this, from the first Republican President?

You can fool all the people some of the time, and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time.


Looks like the Global Warming Scam has run its course.


"New Gallup Poll: Americans do not even mention global warming as a problem – 36 ‘problems’ cited, but not climate

According to the latest Gallup poll, NOBODY thinks global warming is our most important problem, contrary to what NRCM, Audubon and CLF sock puppets tell us."
New Gallup Poll: Americans do not even mention global warming as a problem – 36 ‘problems’ cited, but not climate



Oh, noooozzzzz!!!!

Now we're gonna have to find a whole new bunch of human piñatas!!!

According to a March 25, 2019 Poll:

Americans as Concerned as Ever About Global Warming

66% believe global warming is caused by human activity, near all-time high
65% Say most scientist believe Global Warming is
occurring
59% Believe the effects of Global Warning have already begun
For the first time since 2001, a majority of Americans are classified as Concerned Believers.
Americans as Concerned as Ever About Global Warming
Oh look another dishonest, misleading SINGLE ISSUE polling mantra, where you can always get a high score on something because there are no other concerns allowed to reduce the score. Dishonest and misleading, don't you climate doomsday nuts ever think about what you write?

Go back to post ONE, where it allows open ended MULTIPLE issues to be CHOSEN in a poll that makes clear what people really think about global warming, it didn't even get a single mention. That is the honest way to gauge how people place their concerns that are important to them.
Flopper writes:

Actually it is listed (Environment/Pollution).
The link in your post does not point directly to Gallup but Climate Depot, a project of CFACT, a climate change denier for over two decades. If you follow the links, you will see it does not lead to to the Gallup survey at all but to a PDF which is not the survey but information on how a survey on consumption habits was conducted. Pardon me if I'm a bit suspicious but I find most of the climate change denier's links either don't support their article, are misleading or complete fabrications.
New Gallup Poll: Americans do not even mention global warming as a problem – 36 ‘problems’ cited, but not climate

Satisfaction With the U.S. and Most Important Problem (Trends)

=====================

My reply:

It is clear you didn't bother to get past the chart in Climate Depot, where the link to the GALLUP website is found, and the poll question and chart they had quoted from. Here is the Gallup website with the question and the results of the poll ALL on the Gallup WEBSITE itself.

Satisfaction With the U.S. and Most Important Problem (Trends)

In general, are you satisfied or dissatisfied with the way things are going in the United States at this time? What do you think is the most important problem facing this country today?


PDF poll result in the LINK
===

Your lie has been exposed.

It is clear you never read page FIVE (5) of the PDF, where it showed that Climate Depot honestly quoted, showing the results of the survey based on the question.

You are a lousy reader!
There are no climate deniers-everybody knows we have climate. Everybody also knows that the climate is always changing. The argument is, does man's activity hasten global warming?
and all we asked for was observed empirical evidence to man's effect. Why are you denying to provide the evidence?
 
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Looks like Conservative misinformation is working
It's seriously embarrassing. A bunch of fuck mouthed rednecks from the United States have unraveled the global conspiracy being pushed by some of the most educated people on Earth. Right...
Then why won't one of the Archbishops for "some of the most educated people on Earth" turn over his papers to a court of law for review?

Mann just had a case thrown out because he would not produce his data and dragged his feet so long that the court nuked his ass.. Now he gets to pay legal fees and court costs for Dr Ball.... TO Damn Funny!
 

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Remember this, from the first Republican President?

You can fool all the people some of the time, and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time.


Looks like the Global Warming Scam has run its course.


"New Gallup Poll: Americans do not even mention global warming as a problem – 36 ‘problems’ cited, but not climate

According to the latest Gallup poll, NOBODY thinks global warming is our most important problem, contrary to what NRCM, Audubon and CLF sock puppets tell us."
New Gallup Poll: Americans do not even mention global warming as a problem – 36 ‘problems’ cited, but not climate



Oh, noooozzzzz!!!!

Now we're gonna have to find a whole new bunch of human piñatas!!!

According to a March 25, 2019 Poll:

Americans as Concerned as Ever About Global Warming

66% believe global warming is caused by human activity, near all-time high
65% Say most scientist believe Global Warming is
occurring
59% Believe the effects of Global Warning have already begun
For the first time since 2001, a majority of Americans are classified as Concerned Believers.
Americans as Concerned as Ever About Global Warming
Oh look another dishonest, misleading SINGLE ISSUE polling mantra, where you can always get a high score on something because there are no other concerns allowed to reduce the score. Dishonest and misleading, don't you climate doomsday nuts ever think about what you write?

Go back to post ONE, where it allows open ended MULTIPLE issues to be CHOSEN in a poll that makes clear what people really think about global warming, it didn't even get a single mention. That is the honest way to gauge how people place their concerns that are important to them.
Flopper writes:

Actually it is listed (Environment/Pollution).
The link in your post does not point directly to Gallup but Climate Depot, a project of CFACT, a climate change denier for over two decades. If you follow the links, you will see it does not lead to to the Gallup survey at all but to a PDF which is not the survey but information on how a survey on consumption habits was conducted. Pardon me if I'm a bit suspicious but I find most of the climate change denier's links either don't support their article, are misleading or complete fabrications.
New Gallup Poll: Americans do not even mention global warming as a problem – 36 ‘problems’ cited, but not climate

Satisfaction With the U.S. and Most Important Problem (Trends)

=====================

My reply:

It is clear you didn't bother to get past the chart in Climate Depot, where the link to the GALLUP website is found, and the poll question and chart they had quoted from. Here is the Gallup website with the question and the results of the poll ALL on the Gallup WEBSITE itself.

Satisfaction With the U.S. and Most Important Problem (Trends)

In general, are you satisfied or dissatisfied with the way things are going in the United States at this time? What do you think is the most important problem facing this country today?


PDF poll result in the LINK
===

Your lie has been exposed.

It is clear you never read page FIVE (5) of the PDF, where it showed that Climate Depot honestly quoted, showing the results of the survey based on the question.

You are a lousy reader!
There are no climate deniers-everybody knows we have climate. Everybody also knows that the climate is always changing. The argument is, does man's activity hasten global warming?
The actual question is how does CO2 affect the H2O in the atmosphere (or forcing). The AGW cult thinks it will cause catastrophic warming. The empirical evidence shows just the opposite. H2O in our atmosphere scrubs CO2 from it and it takes on the energy, cools, and emits that energy in a bandwidth that CO2 can not effect. This is called climate sensitivity and that number has dropped form 2-3 deg C rise per decade to just 0.16 Deg C per decade, far below event the basic logarithmic expectations found in the lab for CO2.

The empirical evidence is damning and the AGW nutters dont want to admit that their fantasy is just that, a fantasy. Natural factors are kicking their collective asses..
 

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Your pathetic claim is easily refuted because your excuses are dead on arrival, here is but a small sampling of papers from this list you ignored:

Skeptic Papers 2018 (3)

Shen et al 2018

"...The results showed that both future climate change (precipitation and temperature) and hydrological response predicted by the twenty GCMs [climate models] were highly uncertain, and the uncertainty increased significantly over time. For example, the change of mean annual precipitation increased from 1.4% in 2021–2050 to 6.5% in 2071–2100 for RCP4.5 in terms of the median value of multi-models, but the projected uncertainty reached 21.7% in 2021–2050 and 25.1% in 2071–2100 for RCP4.5."
So, models become more uncertain with increased projection. What an incredible facepalm of a surprise!

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Luo et al 2018

"Over the recent three decades sea surface temperate (SST) in the eastern equatorial Pacific has decreased, which helps reduce the rate of global warming. However, most CMIP5 model simulations with historical radiative forcing do not reproduce this Pacific La Niña-like cooling. Based on the assumption of “perfect” models, previous studies have suggested that errors in simulated internal climate variations and/or external radiative forcing may cause the discrepancy between the multi-model simulations and the observation...."
Most do not? So, some do? They reproduce a subtle phenomenon with no known cause? Yeah... there's a complete failure for you.

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LaCour et al 2018

"Using lidar and radiative flux observations from space and ground, and a lidar simulator, we evaluate clouds simulated by climate models over the Greenland ice sheet, including predicted cloud cover, cloud fraction profile, cloud opacity, and surface cloud radiative effects. The representation of clouds over Greenland is a central concern for the models because clouds impact ice sheet surface melt. We find that over Greenland, most of the models have insufficient cloud cover during summer. In addition, all models create too few nonopaque, liquid-containing clouds optically thin enough to let direct solar radiation reach the surface (−1% to −3.5% at the ground level). Some models create too few opaque clouds. In most climate models, the cloud properties biases identified over all Greenland also apply at Summit, Greenland, proving the value of the ground observatory in model evaluation. At Summit, climate models underestimate cloud radiative effect (CRE) at the surface, especially in summer. The primary driver of the summer CRE biases compared to observations is the underestimation of the cloud cover in summer (−46% to −21%), which leads to an underestimated longwave radiative warming effect (CRELW = −35.7 to −13.6 W m−2 compared to the ground observations) and an underestimated shortwave cooling effect (CRESW = +1.5 to +10.5 W m−2 compared to the ground observations). Overall, the simulated clouds do not radiatively warm the surface as much as observed."
Maybe somebody should have checked this one first: "Over Greenland, most of the models have insufficient cloud cover during summer." The thing is, Greenland's cloud cover HAS been decreasing. See:
Greenland’s shrinking cloud cover speeds melt | Climate News Network
AND
Thinning summer cloud cover responsible for Greenland ice melt
AND
Decreasing cloud cover driving Greenland Ice Sheet Loss | PSI Intl
AND
Glaciology: Cloud loss melts Greenland

and then there's the final sentence in your abstract: "...simulated clouds [ie, clouds in models] do not radiatively warm the surface as much as observed". This is saying that reality is getting more warming than the models predict. Hardly a refutation of AGW.

Please! Bring us some more!
Here's the point. The science is NOT settled. He brings scientific evidence that AGW is not happening. You produce papers that say it is. He proves that the consensus is NOT what people on the AGW side claim it is. So, the science is NOT settled. I wish guys like you would just admit that. But you won't.

There is too much evidence that man is not causing climate change and enough that shows AGW is not happening.

So there is NO emergency to have to do anything right now. There is nothing wrong with wanting a clean environment. Cutting back on co2 was a good thing. No one wants to breath dirty aire or drink dirty water. I think we all agree. But to say that we need massive immediate changes bas d upon questionable science is nothing but a power grab that suckers people like you to believe.
 

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Here's the point. The science is NOT settled. He brings scientific evidence that AGW is not happening. You produce papers that say it is. He proves that the consensus is NOT what people on the AGW side claim it is. So, the science is NOT settled. I wish guys like you would just admit that. But you won't. There is too much evidence that man is not causing climate change and enough that shows AGW is not happening.

So there is NO emergency to have to do anything right now. There is nothing wrong with wanting a clean environment. Cutting back on co2 was a good thing. No one wants to breath dirty aire or drink dirty water. I think we all agree. But to say that we need massive immediate changes bas d upon questionable science is nothing but a power grab that suckers people like you to believe.
There is Not "Too much evidence that man is not causing claimate change."

There is No certain evidence of it.
There is a bit of debate over IF man is causing it, but virtually none he is not.
There is alot he is.


Scientific consensus on climate change - Wikipedia

"Opposing" (the AGW Consensus)

Since 2007, when the American Association of Petroleum Geologists released a revised statement,[29] NO national or international scientific body any longer rejects the findings of human-induced effects on climate change.[28][30]

Surveys of scientists and scientific literature

Various surveys have been conducted to evaluate scientific opinion on global warming. They have concluded that the majority of scientists support the idea of anthropogenic climate change.

In 2004, the geologist and historian of science Naomi Oreskes summarized a study of the scientific literature on climate change.[131] She analyzed 928 abstracts of papers from refereed scientific journals between 1993 and 2003 and concluded that there is a scientific consensus on the reality of anthropogenic climate change.

Oreskes divided the abstracts into six categories: explicit endorsement of the consensus position, evaluation of impacts, mitigation proposals, methods, paleoclimate analysis, and rejection of the consensus position. 75% of the abstracts were placed in the first three categories (either explicitly or implicitly accepting the consensus view); 25% dealt with methods or paleoclimate, thus taking no position on current anthropogenic climate change.

None of the abstracts disagreed with the consensus position, which the author found to be "remarkable".
According to the report, "authors evaluating impacts, developing methods, or studying paleoclimatic change might believe that current climate change is natural. However, none of these papers argued that point."....".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_consensus_on_climate_change


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