Look Across The Pond.....

[PoliticalChic]

.....to see how fragile and ephemeral your freedom is.


1. Certainly I am pleased that the (R)ight candidate won, but with the choice so very clear (name one accomplishmet of Kamala), I am still pessimistic about the future of this once great nation.


11/20/2024 Latest totals:

Trump 76, 837,044
Kamala 74,313,883



2. Perhaps those 74 million are unaware of what has happened to freedom in our cousin across the sea. England. They have no Constitution, so you might blame it on that.....but 74 million Americans voted for a party that disregards the Constituion.


3. "America and the United Kingdom have long had a special relationship, working closely as allies to protect the West from oppressive dictatorships that suppress their own people, arbitrarily jailing them and persecuting them for exercising their God-given right of free speech. Here’s the problem. The UK has become one of those oppressive dictatorships that suppress their own people, arbitrarily jailing them and persecuting them...

4. ....our special relationship was built upon a shared reverence for the basic tenets of freedom that the British themselves pioneered. From the Magna Carta to the rise of Parliament and the restraining of their inbred royal rulers, the British set the template for freedom, and we Americans took it to the next level. We wrote our Constitution with a Bill of Rights ...

5. Great Britain is not so great anymore. Not to put too fine a point on it, you can now be arrested and imprisoned for tweeting things. Think about that. You can say something, and then cops can come to your house and haul you away to jail, maybe for years longer than actual criminals, because you’ve said something. This is part of a two-tier “justice” system aimed squarely at regular Englishmen with the intent of silencing and disenfranchising them. This is intolerable to any lover of freedom, although the British – by giving up their guns – ensured they can do nothing about it. "

Why Again Do We Still Have a Special Relationship With the Tyrannical UK?

townhall.com

That was the direction and position the Demorat Party was and did put America in.

And 74 million 'Americans' were copacetic with that.

 

[jwoodie]

Great Britain was a great commercial and colonial power before it became obsessed with Germany's industrial potential. It may have won two world wars, but it lost its empire in the process.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Great Britain was a great commercial and colonial power before it became obsessed with Germany's industrial potential. It may have won two world wars, but it lost its empire in the process.

Per the OP, I am far less concerned with the empire than I am with the loss of their citizen's rights.

The same for ours.

 

[PoliticalChic]

For "Luiza," who labeled the OP fake news....

Here's why Twitter users in the UK can still be jailed ...​

The Verge
https://www.theverge.com › uk-grossly-offensive-tweet...




Feb 7, 2022 — It's a surprise to many, but internet users in the UK can face fines, community service, and even jail time if convicted of sending “grossly ...

Men jailed for encouraging unrest on social media​

BBC
https://www.bbc.com › news › articles




Aug 9, 2024 — The first jail terms for encouraging unrest on social media have been handed down, as more people are sentenced over the wave of disorder ...
Missing: statements ‎| Show results with: statements

“Think before you post”: The U.K. is now jailing people for ...​

Standing for Freedom Center
https://www.standingforfreedom.com › 2024/08 › think...




Aug 16, 2024 — The United Kingdom has ramped up its censorship efforts, now taking the extraordinary step of jailing its own citizens for making “hateful” ...

 

[luiza]

5. Great Britain is not so great anymore. Not to put too fine a point on it, you can now be arrested and imprisoned for tweeting things. Think about that. You can say something, and then cops can come to your house and haul you away to jail, maybe for years longer than actual criminals, because you’ve said something. This is part of a two-tier “justice” system aimed squarely at regular Englishmen with the intent of silencing and disenfranchising them. This is intolerable to any lover of freedom, although the British – by giving up their guns – ensured they can do nothing about it. "

I suspect the writer ( Kurt Schlichter),whose article this is linked to, is a fifth rate freelance who can only make a few groats when churning out sensational tripe and onions .
Certainly that article and your OP bear no relation to reality and I wonder if it stems from annoyance and even deep seated jealousy.
Namely, the stereotypical image of Americans over here is of overweight , unhealthy and loud mouthed people who are only known these days as bullying and badly schooled individuals with little available in culture and social graces .
These days we look down on Americans generally as a violent and untrustworthy tribe with a major personality problem and a nation that is headed straight toward the toilet U -bend .
If we sometimes appear distant and stand -offish you cannot reasonably complain , even if , predictably , you fail to understand .

Added .
Generalising from a couple of attempted examples is as silly as it has always been .

 

[jc456]

For "Luiza," who labeled the OP fake news....

Here's why Twitter users in the UK can still be jailed ...​

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The Verge
https://www.theverge.com › uk-grossly-offensive-tweet...




Feb 7, 2022 — It's a surprise to many, but internet users in the UK can face fines, community service, and even jail time if convicted of sending “grossly ...

Men jailed for encouraging unrest on social media​

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BBC
https://www.bbc.com › news › articles




Aug 9, 2024 — The first jail terms for encouraging unrest on social media have been handed down, as more people are sentenced over the wave of disorder ...
Missing: statements ‎| Show results with: statements

“Think before you post”: The U.K. is now jailing people for ...​

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Standing for Freedom Center
https://www.standingforfreedom.com › 2024/08 › think...




Aug 16, 2024 — The United Kingdom has ramped up its censorship efforts, now taking the extraordinary step of jailing its own citizens for making “hateful” ...

luiza , what is fake about PC's post?

 

[luiza]

luiza , what is fake about PC's post?

Nothing
Other than it is unadulterated garbage .

 

[jc456]

Nothing
Other than it is unadulterated garbage .

So you're saying the links are fake?

 

[NetJedi]

.And 74 million 'Americans' were copacetic with that.

I don't think that's accurate; I think a fair number of that 74 million were voting against Donald Trump simply because they don't like him and/or have bought into all the twisted fairy tales being spun by the left-wing propagandists in the media about him.

You have to admit Donald Trump carries more "baggage" (real and perceived) than pretty much any Presidential Candidate in History, despite that he still beat his Democrat Opponent (what does that say about them?). I suspect if given a GOP candidate with less "baggage" (for example J.D. Vance) this last election would have been a blow out of epic proportions, just a guess.

 

[toobfreak]

.....to see how fragile and ephemeral your freedom is.
Great Britain is not so great anymore. Not to put too fine a point on it, you can now be arrested and imprisoned for tweeting things. Think about that. You can say something, and then cops can come to your house and haul you away to jail, maybe for years longer than actual criminals, because you’ve said something.

I was lucky. I was actually in England nearly two years ago to attend the funeral of a close friend and while there, there were some stirrings of this stuff then, it wasn't bad as it is now. People were afraid to talk as if the walls had ears! Luckily, I spent most of my time in far southern England in Sussex and Surrey counties which is out in the country where mostly the upper crust hobnob in country estates, over in the Rendlesham forest area to see the location of a once-famous UFO incident and finally over to see the Stonehenge in the west with a car full of rather interesting blokes.

 

[NetJedi]

I was lucky. I was actually in England nearly two years ago to attend the funeral of a close friend and while there, there were some stirrings of this stuff then, it wasn't bad as it is now. People were afraid to talk as if the walls had ears! Luckily, I spent most of my time in far southern England in Sussex and Surrey counties which is out in the country where mostly the upper crust hobnob in country estates, over in the Rendlesham forest area to see the location of a once-famous UFO incident and finally over to see the Stonehenge in the west with a car full of rather interesting blokes.

You weren't in England you were in an England shaped smoking ruin of a once great country. All The people that built England and the British Empire are turning over in their graves at the discombobulated fools their ancestors have become and the mess they've made of their country.

 

[PoliticalChic]

I suspect the writer ( Kurt Schlichter),whose article this is linked to, is a fifth rate freelance who can only make a few groats when churning out sensational tripe and onions .
Certainly that article and your OP bear no relation to reality and I wonder if it stems from annoyance and even deep seated jealousy.
Namely, the stereotypical image of Americans over here is of overweight , unhealthy and loud mouthed people who are only known these days as bullying and badly schooled individuals with little available in culture and social graces .
These days we look down on Americans generally as a violent and untrustworthy tribe with a major personality problem and a nation that is headed straight toward the toilet U -bend .
If we sometimes appear distant and stand -offish you cannot reasonably complain , even if , predictably , you fail to understand .

Added .
Generalising from a couple of attempted examples is as silly as it has always been .

I posted three examples to prove that you were either lying or don't know what you are talking about when you wrote "fake news."



You seem to be trying to cloud the issue, your error, by insulting Americans. Didn't work.



So, does your tyrannical government arrest and fine citizens, now subjects, for speaking their minds?


Clearly it does.



I hope I taught you something. Say thank you.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Nothing
Other than it is unadulterated garbage .

As I just proved, it is absolute fact.

The fake is you.

 

[PoliticalChic]

I don't think that's accurate; I think a fair number of that 74 million were voting against Donald Trump simply because they don't like him and/or have bought into all the twisted fairy tales being spun by the left-wing propagandists in the media about him.

You have to admit Donald Trump carries more "baggage" (real and perceived) than pretty much any Presidential Candidate in History, despite that he still beat his Democrat Opponent (what does that say about them?). I suspect if given a GOP candidate with less "baggage" (for example J.D. VanceI ) this last election would have been a blow out of epic proportions, just a guess.

I think you are correct.

Somehow, the less informed have bought the undeserved slander and lies that the Left is infamous for.
A great deal of credit is deserved for what Trump did for America and Americans, and as we have seen, the lawfare used by the Democrats has fallen apart.


I posted this before the election:

Under Trump gasoline was about $1.80 a gallon….but you voted against that

Under Trump we were energy independent….but you voted against that.

Under Trump 80% of illegal alien were kept in Mexico….but you voted against that.

Under Trump inflation was 1.4%….but you voted against that.

Under Trump crime was far lower, as were homicides….but you voted against that.

Under Trump Iran was kept in a box….but you voted against that.

Under Trump America had an airbase near both China and Iran….but you voted against that.

Under Trump our President wasn’t on China’s payroll….but you voted against that.

Under Trump cartels weren’t free to operate….but you voted against that.

Under Trump government didn’t favor racism, CRT, gender mutilation….but you voted against that.

Under Trump we didn’t have confiscatory tax policy….but you voted against that.

Under Trump we didn’t have a government working with big tech to end free speech….but you voted against that.

Under Trump, Putin didn’t invade Ukraine….but you voted against that

Under Trump, the savages of Hamas didn’t dare to slaughter concert goers….but you voted against that.

Under Trump, peace in the Middle East….but you voted against that.

Under Trump, three peace treaties between Israel and their Arab neighbors…..but you voted against that.

Under Trump, securing our borders and not waiving in murderous MS13 gang members…..but you voted against that

Under Trump we avoided some 100,000 fatal drug overdoses…but you voted against that.

Under Trump we didn’t have lawfare, a legal system corrupted to use fake charges against political enemies….but you voted for Lawfare.

• Under Trump, his side didn’t try to imprison or assassinate opponents.

 

[PoliticalChic]

You weren't in England you were in an England shaped smoking ruin of a once great country. All The people that built England and the British Empire are turning over in their graves at the discombobulated fools their ancestors have become and the mess they've made of their country.

I agree with you a second time.

 

[BluesLegend]

We will not be lectured to by those idiots in Europe who have been killing each other in wars for over 2,000 years including 2 world wars.

 

[toobfreak]

You weren't in England you were in an England shaped smoking ruin of a once great country. All The people that built England and the British Empire are turning over in their graves at the discombobulated fools their ancestors have become and the mess they've made of their country.

I'm sure you are right. Most of my time there was spent in an area which has changed little in 150 years and the streets are still barely wide enough for a single lane of traffic. In fact the homes there, it is against the law to alter or modernize them in any way.

 

[PoliticalChic]

We will not be lectured to by those idiots in Europe who have been killing each other in wars for over 2,000 years including 2 world wars.

I don't believe we are being lectured to by the English, just by Macron of France, another failed nation.


What England is providing is a cautionary tale for Americans who have their eyes opened.

 

[marvin martian]

Per the OP, I am far less concerned with the empire than I am with the loss of their citizen's rights.

The same for ours.

The British government disarmed the citizens years ago. What's happening there now is the normal progression of tyranny over a defenseless populace.

NEVER give up your guns.

 

[PoliticalChic]

I'm sure you are right. Most of my time there was spent in an area which has changed little in 150 years and the streets are still barely wide enough for a single lane of traffic. In fact the homes there, it is against the law to alter or modernize them in any way.

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Beautiful!

Thank you.