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You all do know that people can and have changed their political party right?Well it was the dems that started Jim Crow.
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You all do know that people can and have changed their political party right?Well it was the dems that started Jim Crow.
You know that's bullshit, both the reason why you're claiming they reacted the way they did and your characterization of the Black Panthers.
Black people have always scared segments of the white population who apparently live in fear of retribution for the horrid mistreatment of Black people throughout the centuries. Black people armed as well as anyone of those that they send after us is also apparently even more terrifying and unthinkable.
If the Black Panthers were indeed the way you mischaracterized them, then why would you say they "they were wrong to do it"? They main focus was creating "Black unity" and looking after Black people in ways our government had no interest in doing.
The Mulford Act is was nothing more than the original gun control strategy - you let us have our way with you (strike that, "we WILL have our way with you"), even though violent and unlawful, otherwise you risk the loss of your freedom and possibly your life if you insist on arming yourself for protection. The other alternative is the risk you assume by going completely unarmed and being at the mercy of those who have targeted you for oppression and abuse.
I used to think it was just that they were ignorant of certain things but my observations have been that they will just actively ignore any information provided to them that conflicts with their worldview.Thank you for saving me from searching for this.
Are rightwingers more ignorant, or just more stupid?
You know that's bullshit, both the reason why you're claiming they reacted the way they did and your characterization of the Black Panthers.
Black people have always scared segments of the white population who apparently live in fear of retribution for the horrid mistreatment of Black people throughout the centuries. Black people armed as well as anyone of those that they send after us is also apparently even more terrifying and unthinkable.
If the Black Panthers were indeed the way you mischaracterized them, then why would you say they "they were wrong to do it"? They main focus was creating "Black unity" and looking after Black people in ways our government had no interest in doing.
The Mulford Act is was nothing more than the original gun control strategy - you let us have our way with you (strike that, "we WILL have our way with you"), even though violent and unlawful, otherwise you risk the loss of your freedom and possibly your life if you insist on arming yourself for protection. The other alternative is the risk you assume by going completely unarmed and being at the mercy of those who have targeted you for oppression and abuse.
You're still lying and mischaracterizing them thoughAs Ben Shapiro always points out, two things can be true at the same time.....this is no different.
1) The black panthers were a racist and criminal organization...they ran drugs and prostitution just like any other gang, and they murdered people in various places....using the Civil Rights movement as a shield to gain leftist allies, and hide their crimes...
2) The Mumford Act was unConstitutional and wrong.
See....both can be true at the same time.
You're still lying and mischaracterizing them though
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It began shortly after the shooting of Denzil Dowell. Easy Bay legislator Don Mulford introduced a bill to repeal the law that permitted citizens to carry loaded weapons in public places so long as the weapons were openly displayed [see link to California Penal Code, Sections 12031 and 171.c]. What the Mulford law sought to achieve was the elimination of the Black Panther Police Patrols, and it had been tagged "the Panther Bill" by the media.The Police Patrols had become an integral part of BPP community policy. Members of the BPP would listen to police calls on a short wave radio, rush to the scene of the arrest with law books in hand and inform the person being arrested of their constitutional rights. BPP members also happened to carry loaded weapons, which were publicly displayed, but were careful to stand no closer than ten feet from the arrest so as not to interfere with the arrest.Passage of the Mulford Bill would essentially end the Panther Police Patrols, so the BPP sent a group to Sacramento, California on May 2nd, 1967 to protest. The group carried loaded rifles and shotguns, publicly displayed and entered the State Capitol building to read aloud Executive Mandate Number 1, which was in opposition to the Mulford Bill. They tried to enter the Assembly Chamber but were forced out of this public place where they then read Executive Mandate Number 1 out on the lawn.The legislature responded by passing the bill, thus creating the Mulford Act, which was signed into law by Governor Ronald Reagan. This step by the Black Panther Party was enough to put them into national prominence and was a stimulus for growth of the party within the young Black population.
The following is from the National Archives:
Black Panther Party Introduction, continuedThe BPP’s philosophy was influenced by the speeches of Malcolm X of the Nation of Islam, the teachings of Chairman Mao Tse-Tung of the Communist Party of China, and the anti-colonialist book The Wretched of the Earth (Les Damnés de la Terre, 1961) by the Martiniquan psychiatrist Frantz Fanon. The BPP’s practice of armed self-defense was influenced by African American activist Robert Williams, who advocated this practice against anti-black aggression by the Ku Klux Klan in his book Negroes with Guns (1962). Newton and Seale canvassed their community asking residents about issues of concern. They compiled the responses and created the Ten Point Platform and Program that served as the foundation of the Black Panther Party. The ten points are:
- We want freedom. We want power to determine the destiny of our Black Community.
- We want full employment for our people.
- We want an end to the robbery by the Capitalists of our Black Community.
- We want decent housing, fit for shelter of human beings.
- We want education for our people that exposes the true nature of this decadent American society. We want education that teaches us our true history and our role in the present day society.
- We want all Black men to be exempt from military service.
- We want an immediate end to POLICE BRUTALITY and MURDER of Black people.
- We want freedom for all Black men held in federal, state, county and city prisons and jails.
- We want all Black people when brought to trial to be tried in court by a jury of their peer group or people from their Black Communities, as defined by the Constitution of the United States.
- We want land, bread, housing, education, clothing, justice and peace.
Because of its practice of armed self-defense against police, as well as its Communistic and revolutionary elements, the BPP was frequently targeted by the Federal Bureau of Investigation’s COINTELPRO program as well as by state and local law enforcement groups. However, despite its militant stance, the BPP also provided free breakfast for school children, sickle cell anemia screening, legal aid, and adult education.The National Archives and Records Administration contains over 2,400 records relating to the Black Panther Party. Most of these records are textual records, but there are also motion pictures, sound recordings, and photographs.
You're still lying and mischaracterizing them though
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It began shortly after the shooting of Denzil Dowell. Easy Bay legislator Don Mulford introduced a bill to repeal the law that permitted citizens to carry loaded weapons in public places so long as the weapons were openly displayed [see link to California Penal Code, Sections 12031 and 171.c]. What the Mulford law sought to achieve was the elimination of the Black Panther Police Patrols, and it had been tagged "the Panther Bill" by the media.The Police Patrols had become an integral part of BPP community policy. Members of the BPP would listen to police calls on a short wave radio, rush to the scene of the arrest with law books in hand and inform the person being arrested of their constitutional rights. BPP members also happened to carry loaded weapons, which were publicly displayed, but were careful to stand no closer than ten feet from the arrest so as not to interfere with the arrest.Passage of the Mulford Bill would essentially end the Panther Police Patrols, so the BPP sent a group to Sacramento, California on May 2nd, 1967 to protest. The group carried loaded rifles and shotguns, publicly displayed and entered the State Capitol building to read aloud Executive Mandate Number 1, which was in opposition to the Mulford Bill. They tried to enter the Assembly Chamber but were forced out of this public place where they then read Executive Mandate Number 1 out on the lawn.The legislature responded by passing the bill, thus creating the Mulford Act, which was signed into law by Governor Ronald Reagan. This step by the Black Panther Party was enough to put them into national prominence and was a stimulus for growth of the party within the young Black population.
The following is from the National Archives:
Black Panther Party Introduction, continuedThe BPP’s philosophy was influenced by the speeches of Malcolm X of the Nation of Islam, the teachings of Chairman Mao Tse-Tung of the Communist Party of China, and the anti-colonialist book The Wretched of the Earth (Les Damnés de la Terre, 1961) by the Martiniquan psychiatrist Frantz Fanon. The BPP’s practice of armed self-defense was influenced by African American activist Robert Williams, who advocated this practice against anti-black aggression by the Ku Klux Klan in his book Negroes with Guns (1962). Newton and Seale canvassed their community asking residents about issues of concern. They compiled the responses and created the Ten Point Platform and Program that served as the foundation of the Black Panther Party. The ten points are:
- We want freedom. We want power to determine the destiny of our Black Community.
- We want full employment for our people.
- We want an end to the robbery by the Capitalists of our Black Community.
- We want decent housing, fit for shelter of human beings.
- We want education for our people that exposes the true nature of this decadent American society. We want education that teaches us our true history and our role in the present day society.
- We want all Black men to be exempt from military service.
- We want an immediate end to POLICE BRUTALITY and MURDER of Black people.
- We want freedom for all Black men held in federal, state, county and city prisons and jails.
- We want all Black people when brought to trial to be tried in court by a jury of their peer group or people from their Black Communities, as defined by the Constitution of the United States.
- We want land, bread, housing, education, clothing, justice and peace.
Because of its practice of armed self-defense against police, as well as its Communistic and revolutionary elements, the BPP was frequently targeted by the Federal Bureau of Investigation’s COINTELPRO program as well as by state and local law enforcement groups. However, despite its militant stance, the BPP also provided free breakfast for school children, sickle cell anemia screening, legal aid, and adult education.The National Archives and Records Administration contains over 2,400 records relating to the Black Panther Party. Most of these records are textual records, but there are also motion pictures, sound recordings, and photographs.
David Horwitz is listed on the SPLC "Extremists" list as is only a hair breath's away from properly being classified as a loon. And nothing in what you posted regarding Seale who was a founding member negates the factual underpinnings of why and how the government targeted California's existing law as a way to eliminate the Panther's ability to continue their armed "Police Patrols". Even the media dubbed the Mulford Act as the "Panther Patrol" law sinse it was generally known that its purpose was to end the lawful ability of the Panthers to be armed in public, even during encounters with the police.The truth....something you won't find without searching for it....
Seale is best remembered for his 1969 courtroom histrionics as one of the Chicago Eight, the eight moral degenerates who were put on trial for inciting riots at the 1968 Democratic Convention. Seale’s behavior caused the judge to order him shackled to a chair and gagged.
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Bobby Seale’s Confession: David Horowitz Was Right On
Bobby Seale, the former chairman and co-founder of the Black Panther Party, has just recently made a confession about Panther criminality that has vindicated what David Horowitz has been saying for years. Seale is best remembered for his 1969 courtroom histrionics as one of the Chicago Eight...historynewsnetwork.org
David Horwitz is listed on the SPLC "Extremists" list as is only a hair breath's away from properly being classified as a loon. And nothing in what you posted regarding Seale who was a founding member negates the factual underpinnings of why and how the government targeted California's existing law as a way to eliminate the Panther's ability to continue their armed "Police Patrols". Even the media dubbed the Mulford Act as the "Panther Patrol" law sinse it was generally known that its purpose was to end the lawful ability of the Panthers to be armed in public, even during encounters with the police.
Despite Horowitz being a founding intellectual member of the New Left in the 1960s, and an advocate for civil rights and equality, he has since the late 1980s become a driving force of the anti-Muslim, anti-immigrant and anti-black movements.
The law was unConstitutional, until it wasn't (again) but targeting Black people with gun control legislation has been going on for centuries.
David Horwitz is listed on the SPLC "Extremists" list as is only a hair breath's away from properly being classified as a loon. And nothing in what you posted regarding Seale who was a founding member negates the factual underpinnings of why and how the government targeted California's existing law as a way to eliminate the Panther's ability to continue their armed "Police Patrols". Even the media dubbed the Mulford Act as the "Panther Patrol" law sinse it was generally known that its purpose was to end the lawful ability of the Panthers to be armed in public, even during encounters with the police.
Despite Horowitz being a founding intellectual member of the New Left in the 1960s, and an advocate for civil rights and equality, he has since the late 1980s become a driving force of the anti-Muslim, anti-immigrant and anti-black movements.
The law was unConstitutional, until it wasn't (again) but targeting Black people with gun control legislation has been going on for centuries.
So...the left wing democrats.....who belong to the party that owned slaves, started the Civil War to keep slaves, started the klan, jim crow, fought all the Civil Rights laws and the anti-lynching laws........
The left wing democrats think that if black people have guns, more people will want to ban guns...
And they call republicans racist?
“If black people started buying guns, Republicans would start pushing gun control.”
How many times have you heard such a thing? Anti-gunners have said it for decades, about everything from handguns to AR-15s.
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“We’ve known for a long time that racist Republicans are terrified at the thought of black men owning guns,” said Shelby Harris, chief operating officer of “Unpull the Trigger,” a non-profit anti-gun group. “By making sure every black man has a rifle, we can finally get Republicans to support universal background checks, gun buybacks, and confiscation of assault weapons.”
Dubbed the “Scare the Racists Straight” initiative, this controversial proposal is intended to get Republican politicians and their conservative constituents on board with the effort to limit gun ownership as much as possible.
“It’s a really exciting project,” said Tiffany Petit. “When these racist rednecks see video after video of black men shooting assault weapons at the range and carrying them in public, they’ll get on the phone immediately to tell their Congressperson to support more gun control pronto!”
Anti-gun group wants to arm every black man with AR-15
bearingarms.com
The problem with the left is that they are essentially children living in the bodies of adults....they know very little about truth, facts and reality....and they don't know they know very little about truth, facts and reality...
Oh, and they have penchant for mass murder and mass graves.....never forget that...
The SPLC....now that is funnt [sic]... they are a left wing hate group
Just another example of how leftists project their failings onto others.“If black people started buying guns, Republicans would start pushing gun control.”
I used to think it was just that they were ignorant of certain things but my observations have been that they will just actively ignore any information provided to them that conflicts with their worldview.
You savages hate the (Roman) Catholic Church because it tried to civilize you.That would be the Catholic Church.
Democrats did exactly that right after the slaves were freed. It was the first gun control and it was to keep black people from getting guns.So...the left wing democrats.....who belong to the party that owned slaves, started the Civil War to keep slaves, started the klan, jim crow, fought all the Civil Rights laws and the anti-lynching laws........
The left wing democrats think that if black people have guns, more people will want to ban guns...
And they call republicans racist?
“If black people started buying guns, Republicans would start pushing gun control.”
How many times have you heard such a thing? Anti-gunners have said it for decades, about everything from handguns to AR-15s.
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“We’ve known for a long time that racist Republicans are terrified at the thought of black men owning guns,” said Shelby Harris, chief operating officer of “Unpull the Trigger,” a non-profit anti-gun group. “By making sure every black man has a rifle, we can finally get Republicans to support universal background checks, gun buybacks, and confiscation of assault weapons.”
Dubbed the “Scare the Racists Straight” initiative, this controversial proposal is intended to get Republican politicians and their conservative constituents on board with the effort to limit gun ownership as much as possible.
“It’s a really exciting project,” said Tiffany Petit. “When these racist rednecks see video after video of black men shooting assault weapons at the range and carrying them in public, they’ll get on the phone immediately to tell their Congressperson to support more gun control pronto!”
Anti-gun group wants to arm every black man with AR-15
bearingarms.com
The problem with the left is that they are essentially children living in the bodies of adults....they know very little about truth, facts and reality....and they don't know they know very little about truth, facts and reality...
Oh, and they have penchant for mass murder and mass graves.....never forget that...
You mean like the Mulford Act pushed by Gov. Reagan and the NRA because of black men open carrying long guns?
community outreach group
David Horwitz is listed on the SPLC "Extremists" list as is only a hair breath's away from properly being classified as a loon. And nothing in what you posted regarding Seale who was a founding member negates the factual underpinnings of why and how the government targeted California's existing law as a way to eliminate the Panther's ability to continue their armed "Police Patrols". Even the media dubbed the Mulford Act as the "Panther Patrol" law sinse it was generally known that its purpose was to end the lawful ability of the Panthers to be armed in public, even during encounters with the police.
Despite Horowitz being a founding intellectual member of the New Left in the 1960s, and an advocate for civil rights and equality, he has since the late 1980s become a driving force of the anti-Muslim, anti-immigrant and anti-black movements.
David Horowitz
The law was unConstitutional, until it wasn't (again) but targeting Black people with gun control legislation has been going on for centuries.
Gun control in this country had a very overtly racist origin. The earliest gun control laws, with much support from the Ku Klux Klan, were aimed specifically at blacks.
Now those that want to strip Americans of our Second Amendment rights are trying to harness racism as a tool to that end.
Good luck with that.