List of Israeli officials between 1 AD and 1945

[Indofred]

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And there is is.

 

[Hossfly]

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And there is is.

If Freddie is going so far back, he will be able to give us a list of all the Arab officials since 1 A.D. up to 1945. We have to also remember that the Turks weren't Arab. Maybe he would like to also give us a list of all the officials from 1 AD up to the time the Arabs left the Saudi Peninsula and invaded the surrounding countries. Can you do that Freddie? I realize that you, as a devout Muslim convert, really doesn't care that the Arabs invaded countries, forcing the people to convert to Islam and killing many who refused, but since you are now acting as an historian, you can tell us all about the Muslim conquests of the Middle East countries.

 

[georgephillip]

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And there is is.

If Freddie is going so far back, he will be able to give us a list of all the Arab officials since 1 A.D. up to 1945. We have to also remember that the Turks weren't Arab. Maybe he would like to also give us a list of all the officials from 1 AD up to the time the Arabs left the Saudi Peninsula and invaded the surrounding countries. Can you do that Freddie? I realize that you, as a devout Muslim convert, really doesn't care that the Arabs invaded countries, forcing the people to convert to Islam and killing many who refused, but since you are now acting as an historian, you can tell us all about the Muslim conquests of the Middle East countries.

Why don't you explain why the state of Israel doesn't currently offer its citizens the choice of an Israeli nationality? For extra credit, see if you can do that without mentioning the Law of Return.

 

[docmauser1]

Why don't you explain why the state of Israel doesn't currently offer its citizens the choice of an Israeli nationality? For extra credit, see if you can do that without mentioning the Law of Return.

Because it's a jewish state, arabs that don't like it, can always move to arab states, or palistan for that matter, where they'll have a choice of being arab, or arab, of course.

 

[Indofred]

Why don't you explain why the state of Israel doesn't currently offer its citizens the choice of an Israeli nationality? For extra credit, see if you can do that without mentioning the Law of Return.

Because it's a jewish state, arabs that don't like it, can always move to arab states, or palistan for that matter, where they'll have a choice of being arab, or arab, of course.

So the whole thing is a bigoted entity?

 

[georgephillip]

Why don't you explain why the state of Israel doesn't currently offer its citizens the choice of an Israeli nationality? For extra credit, see if you can do that without mentioning the Law of Return.

Because it's a jewish state, arabs that don't like it, can always move to arab states, or palistan for that matter, where they'll have a choice of being arab, or arab, of course.

So Jews prefer apartheid to democracy?

 

[Sweet_Caroline]

Acquisition of Israeli Nationality

Israel's Nationality Law relates to persons born in Israel or resident therein, as well as to those wishing to settle in the country, regardless of race, religion, creed, sex or political belief. Citizenship may be acquired by:

Birth
The Law of Return
Residence
Naturalization


Acquisition of nationality by birth is granted to:
Persons who were born in Israel to a mother or a father who are Israeli citizens.
Persons born outside Israel, if their father or mother holds Israeli citizenship, acquired either by birth in Israel, according to the Law of Return, by residence, or by naturalization.
Persons born after the death of one of their parents, if the late parent was an Israeli citizen by virtue of the conditions enumerated in 1. and 2. above at the time of death.
Persons born in Israel, who have never had any nationality and subject to limitations specified in the law, if they:
apply for it in the period between their 18th and 25th birthday and
have been residents of Israel for five consecutive years, immediately preceding the day of the filing of their application.


Acquisition of Nationality according to the Law of Return

On the establishment of the State, its founders proclaimed "...the renewal of the Jewish State in the Land of Israel, which would open wide the gates of the homeland to every Jew..." In pursuance of this tenet, the State of Israel has absorbed survivors of the Holocaust, refugees from the countries in which they had resided, as well as many thousands of Jews who came to settle in Israel of their own volition.

The Law of Return (1950) grants every Jew, wherever he may be, the right to come to Israel as an oleh (a Jew immigrating to Israel) and become an Israeli citizen.

For the purposes of this Law, "Jew" means a person who was born of a Jewish mother, or has converted to Judaism and is not a member of another religion.

Israeli citizenship becomes effective on the day of arrival in the country or of receipt of an oleh's certificate, whichever is later. A person may declare, within three months, that he/she does not wish to become a citizen.

An oleh's certificate may be denied to persons who:

engage in activity directed against the Jewish people;
may endanger public health or the security of the state;
have a criminal past, likely to endanger public welfare.
Since 1970, the right to immigrate under this law has been extended to include the child and the grandchild of a Jew, the spouse of a child of a Jew and the spouse of the grandchild of a Jew. The purpose of this amendment is to ensure the unity of families, where intermarriage had occurred; it does not apply to persons who had been Jews and had voluntarily changed their religion.


Acquisition of Nationality by Residence

Special provision is made in the Nationality Law for former citizens of British Mandatory Palestine. Those who remained in Israel from the establishment of the State in 1948 until the enactment of the Nationality Law of 1952, became Israeli citizens by residence or by return.

According to an amendment (1980), further possibilities to acquire citizenship by residence, were included in the law.



Acquisition of Nationality by Naturalization

Adults may acquire Israeli citizenship by naturalization at the discretion of the Minister of the Interior and subject to a number of requirements, such as:

they must have resided in Israel for three years out of the five years preceding the day of submission of the application.
they are entitled to reside in Israel permanently and have settled or intend to settle in Israel;
they have renounced their prior nationality, or have proved that they will cease to be foreign nationals upon becoming Israeli citizens.
The Minister of the Interior may exempt an applicant from some of these requirements.


​​​Acquisition of Israeli Nationality

 

[docmauser1]

Why don't you explain why the state of Israel doesn't currently offer its citizens the choice of an Israeli nationality? For extra credit, see if you can do that without mentioning the Law of Return.

Because it's a jewish state, arabs that don't like it, can always move to arab states, or palistan for that matter, where they'll have a choice of being arab, or arab, of course.

So Jews prefer apartheid to democracy?

So, arabs hate israeli democracy?

 

[Hossfly]

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And there is is.

If Freddie is going so far back, he will be able to give us a list of all the Arab officials since 1 A.D. up to 1945. We have to also remember that the Turks weren't Arab. Maybe he would like to also give us a list of all the officials from 1 AD up to the time the Arabs left the Saudi Peninsula and invaded the surrounding countries. Can you do that Freddie? I realize that you, as a devout Muslim convert, really doesn't care that the Arabs invaded countries, forcing the people to convert to Islam and killing many who refused, but since you are now acting as an historian, you can tell us all about the Muslim conquests of the Middle East countries.

Why don't you explain why the state of Israel doesn't currently offer its citizens the choice of an Israeli nationality? For extra credit, see if you can do that without mentioning the Law of Return.

It's a deal Georgie. They can become citizens if you let all the illegals in La La Land become California/U.S. citizens.

 

[georgephillip]

If Freddie is going so far back, he will be able to give us a list of all the Arab officials since 1 A.D. up to 1945. We have to also remember that the Turks weren't Arab. Maybe he would like to also give us a list of all the officials from 1 AD up to the time the Arabs left the Saudi Peninsula and invaded the surrounding countries. Can you do that Freddie? I realize that you, as a devout Muslim convert, really doesn't care that the Arabs invaded countries, forcing the people to convert to Islam and killing many who refused, but since you are now acting as an historian, you can tell us all about the Muslim conquests of the Middle East countries.

Why don't you explain why the state of Israel doesn't currently offer its citizens the choice of an Israeli nationality? For extra credit, see if you can do that without mentioning the Law of Return.

It's a deal Georgie. They can become citizens if you let all the illegals in La La Land become California/U.S. citizens.

Shouldn't we wait for California conservatives to build their apartheid wall?

 

[georgephillip]

Acquisition of Israeli Nationality

Israel's Nationality Law relates to persons born in Israel or resident therein, as well as to those wishing to settle in the country, regardless of race, religion, creed, sex or political belief. Citizenship may be acquired by:

Birth
The Law of Return
Residence
Naturalization


Acquisition of nationality by birth is granted to:
Persons who were born in Israel to a mother or a father who are Israeli citizens.
Persons born outside Israel, if their father or mother holds Israeli citizenship, acquired either by birth in Israel, according to the Law of Return, by residence, or by naturalization.
Persons born after the death of one of their parents, if the late parent was an Israeli citizen by virtue of the conditions enumerated in 1. and 2. above at the time of death.
Persons born in Israel, who have never had any nationality and subject to limitations specified in the law, if they:
apply for it in the period between their 18th and 25th birthday and
have been residents of Israel for five consecutive years, immediately preceding the day of the filing of their application.


Acquisition of Nationality according to the Law of Return

On the establishment of the State, its founders proclaimed "...the renewal of the Jewish State in the Land of Israel, which would open wide the gates of the homeland to every Jew..." In pursuance of this tenet, the State of Israel has absorbed survivors of the Holocaust, refugees from the countries in which they had resided, as well as many thousands of Jews who came to settle in Israel of their own volition.

The Law of Return (1950) grants every Jew, wherever he may be, the right to come to Israel as an oleh (a Jew immigrating to Israel) and become an Israeli citizen.

For the purposes of this Law, "Jew" means a person who was born of a Jewish mother, or has converted to Judaism and is not a member of another religion.

Israeli citizenship becomes effective on the day of arrival in the country or of receipt of an oleh's certificate, whichever is later. A person may declare, within three months, that he/she does not wish to become a citizen.

An oleh's certificate may be denied to persons who:

engage in activity directed against the Jewish people;
may endanger public health or the security of the state;
have a criminal past, likely to endanger public welfare.
Since 1970, the right to immigrate under this law has been extended to include the child and the grandchild of a Jew, the spouse of a child of a Jew and the spouse of the grandchild of a Jew. The purpose of this amendment is to ensure the unity of families, where intermarriage had occurred; it does not apply to persons who had been Jews and had voluntarily changed their religion.


Acquisition of Nationality by Residence

Special provision is made in the Nationality Law for former citizens of British Mandatory Palestine. Those who remained in Israel from the establishment of the State in 1948 until the enactment of the Nationality Law of 1952, became Israeli citizens by residence or by return.

According to an amendment (1980), further possibilities to acquire citizenship by residence, were included in the law.



Acquisition of Nationality by Naturalization

Adults may acquire Israeli citizenship by naturalization at the discretion of the Minister of the Interior and subject to a number of requirements, such as:

they must have resided in Israel for three years out of the five years preceding the day of submission of the application.
they are entitled to reside in Israel permanently and have settled or intend to settle in Israel;
they have renounced their prior nationality, or have proved that they will cease to be foreign nationals upon becoming Israeli citizens.
The Minister of the Interior may exempt an applicant from some of these requirements.


​​​Acquisition of Israeli Nationality

Why do Jews in Israel find it necessary to distinguish between "nationality" and "citizenship"?

"Israel does not recognize 'Israeli' as an ethnic group [in Hebrew le’om.] The term can be translated into English as 'nationhood,' but in the sense of ethnic affiliation, rather than citizenship.

"The le’om attrribution - the main ones are 'Jewish' and 'Arab' - is assigned by the Interior Ministry, regardless of the card-bearers preference.

"The main appellant was Prof. Uzzi Ornan, a linguist who has long battled to separate religion and state. Ornan, 90, was born and raised in Jerusalem.

"He was expelled to Eritrea in 1944, when his underground activities were revealed to the British authorities. When he returned to Israel in 1948, he was registered in the state’s first census and insisted that he not be listed as 'Jewish.'

"Instead, he wrote that he was of no religion and gave his ethnic designation as 'Hebrew.' The newly-formed Interior Ministry accepted this without question.

"In 2000, Ornan petitioned the Interior Ministry to be registered as an ethnic 'Israeli,' but his request was rejected and none of his subsequent legal actions were successful..."

"In his ruling rejecting the appeal, Sohlberg stated, 'the requested declaration has a public, ideological, social, historic and political character – but not a legal one. This isn’t a technical issue of registration in the Population Registry, but a request that the court determine that in the State of Israel a new peoplehood has been formed, common to all its residents and citizens, called "Israeli." This issue is a national-political-social question and it is not the court’s place to decide it.'

"The group argued in its appeal that an Israeli people was formed with the establishment of the State of Israel and that rejecting the existence of such a people is like rejecting the existence of the State of Israel as a democratic, sovereign state.

Supreme Court rejects citizens' request to change nationality from 'Jewish' to 'Israeli' - National Israel News | Haaretz

Obviously, distinguishing between citizenship and nationality was necessary to prevent democracy in the State of Israel.

 

[Kondor3]

Why don't you explain why the state of Israel doesn't currently offer its citizens the choice of an Israeli nationality? For extra credit, see if you can do that without mentioning the Law of Return.

Ummmmm... because the Jews of Israel have no intention of granting Israeli citizenship to the hostile Muslim-Arab Palestinians of the West Bank and Gaza, because (1) they would then (or soon afterwards) outnumber and out-vote the Jews of Israel and (2) because they are already Jordanian citizens who should be evacuated to Jordan, in the wake of Jordan's attack on Israel on Day 2 of the 1967 War, and their subsequent losses on the battlefield and loss of territory as spoils of war?

 

[Indofred]

On the establishment of the State, its founders proclaimed "...the renewal of the Jewish State in the Land of Israel, which would open wide the gates of the homeland to every Jew..."

The Law of Return (1950) grants every Jew, wherever he may be, the right to come to Israel as an oleh (a Jew immigrating to Israel) and become an Israeli citizen.

For the purposes of this Law, "Jew" means a person who was born of a Jewish mother, or has converted to Judaism and is not a member of another religion.

But no one else.
Any country that allows someone who has never been near it, right of return because of their religion, is a bigoted entity and should be subject to sanctions until they chance their position.

However, there may be a little good news here.
Israeli's population is about 8 million so, if a large number of Muslims, say 9 million, pretend to convert, use the bigoted Israeli law to claim right of return then wait until the next election.

We could then vote for out lad who'll immediately remove all settlements from the occupied lands, free the people of Gaza from the collective punishment fence and
return to the '67 borders.

Screw Israel's crap government and their murderous policies.

 

[Lipush]

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And there is is.

I missed the punch line.

Translation?

 

[Indeependent]

On the establishment of the State, its founders proclaimed "...the renewal of the Jewish State in the Land of Israel, which would open wide the gates of the homeland to every Jew..."

The Law of Return (1950) grants every Jew, wherever he may be, the right to come to Israel as an oleh (a Jew immigrating to Israel) and become an Israeli citizen.

For the purposes of this Law, "Jew" means a person who was born of a Jewish mother, or has converted to Judaism and is not a member of another religion.

But no one else.
Any country that allows someone who has never been near it, right of return because of their religion, is a bigoted entity and should be subject to sanctions until they chance their position.

However, there may be a little good news here.
Israeli's population is about 8 million so, if a large number of Muslims, say 9 million, pretend to convert, use the bigoted Israeli law to claim right of return then wait until the next election.

We could then vote for out lad who'll immediately remove all settlements from the occupied lands, free the people of Gaza from the collective punishment fence and
return to the '67 borders.

Screw Israel's crap government and their murderous policies.

How many Jews hold representative positions in any of the Arab nations?
None?
I thought so.
Keep complaining, God needs a good chuckle.

 

[Indofred]

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And there is is.

I missed the punch line.

Translation?

Israel didn't exist until the terrorist extremist Jews created it.

 

[Indofred]

How many Jews hold representative positions in any of the Arab nations?
None?
I thought so.
Keep complaining, God needs a good chuckle.

I love idiots who can't do a simple search before making themselves look like idiots.

Siamak Moreh Sedq, Iranian Jewish lawmaker.
Thanks for the chuckle.

 

[georgephillip]

Why don't you explain why the state of Israel doesn't currently offer its citizens the choice of an Israeli nationality? For extra credit, see if you can do that without mentioning the Law of Return.

Ummmmm... because the Jews of Israel have no intention of granting Israeli citizenship to the hostile Muslim-Arab Palestinians of the West Bank and Gaza, because (1) they would then (or soon afterwards) outnumber and out-vote the Jews of Israel and (2) because they are already Jordanian citizens who should be evacuated to Jordan, in the wake of Jordan's attack on Israel on Day 2 of the 1967 War, and their subsequent losses on the battlefield and loss of territory as spoils of war?

Spoils of war ceased functioning in 1949.
Can you explain how Arab Palestinians who were born and raised among families that have lived between the River and the sea for generations are Jordanian? Why is it only Jews are afraid of free elections contested between roughly equal numbers of Arabs and Jews currently living in historical Palestine?

 

[Sweet_Caroline]

How many Jews hold representative positions in any of the Arab nations?
None?
I thought so.
Keep complaining, God needs a good chuckle.

I love idiots who can't do a simple search before making themselves look like idiots.

Siamak Moreh Sedq, Iranian Jewish lawmaker.
Thanks for the chuckle.

It's the Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei that calls the shots in Iran, not the President. I pray for the Jews of Iran and for their safety. I hope and pray they are not persecuted now or in the future. We cannot tell for sure how Jews fare in Islamic countries. What the media reports (according to what Islamic regimes allow them to) and what is happening to minority religions in Islamic countries could be different entirely.

From the link of that photo:

Quote - Also in advance of the meetings, Iranian Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei on Wednesday announced in broadcast remarks that his country wants friendly ties with the world community, including the United States but that Israel is “doomed to extinction.”


Iranian Jews Rally in Favor of Nuclear Program ? Forward.com

 

[Jroc]

How many Jews hold representative positions in any of the Arab nations?
None?
I thought so.
Keep complaining, God needs a good chuckle.

I love idiots who can't do a simple search before making themselves look like idiots.

Siamak Moreh Sedq, Iranian Jewish lawmaker.
Thanks for the chuckle.

Iran is not an arab nation you idiot i should neg you for that alone

Humanitarian Tragedy: Iran’s Beleaguered Jewish Community
One of the crucial humanitarian tragedies- that the world and the mainstream media has failed to focus on- is the fate and current living situation of Jewish communities in the Muslim-dominated countries, particularly the Shiite-Islamist country of the Islamic Republic of Iran. The Jewish community in the Islamic state of Iran has been subject to little scholarly work and research. Largely due to the fact that the Islamist theocratic regime of Iran has not granted access to scholars, journalists, and other researchers to deeply investigate the conditions of the Jewish community under Islamist rule in Iran.

Although the Jewish community has long faced discrimination, inequality, and intolerance in Muslim communities such as Iran (for example in March 1839 many Jews in Iran were horrifically forced to convert to Islam in what is known as the Allahdad incident), the persecution of the Jewish people exponentially increased since the Shiite-Islamist and Sharia law-based ruling cleric came to power under the rule of the Ayatollah Ruhallah Khomeini. The Jewish community of Iran is a staple of the nation’s history though, as the Jews of Iran trace their history back 2,800 years, when communities of the tribes of Israel were taken into captivity by the Assyrian king and sent into exile. The Jewish community primarily settled in the Giliard region of Damavand, near Tehran.

When Ayatollah Khomeini began galvanizing the Iranian people against Muhammad Reza Shah Pahlavi, he issued statements on the condition of Iran’s Jewish community. Before ascending to power; Khomeini claimed that he believed the Jewish people in Iran should enjoy the same citizenship rights as every other citizen. This classic Machiavellian strategy was intended to gain the support of influential Jewish social groups in Tehran, which comprised approximately 150,000 members.

Nevertheless, when the Ayatollah Khomeini was capable of overthrowing the Shah’s government, and when the Islamist state of Iran was established, he and the ruling clerics immediately arrested some of the most prominent Iranian-Jewish community leaders and businessmen, including Habib Elghanian. The Jewish community leaders were tortured and executed. Since the onset of the persecution, the Israeli flag has been repeatedly torched, and the Star of David desecrated, in Palestine Square in Tehran. The Jewish community found their survival threatened and humanitarian rights repressed. These actions forced them to flee the area after calling the area home for thousands of years. The Iranian-Jewish population decreased to approximately 10,000 people who chose to remain in the Islamic Republic of Iran. The Jewish community that was unwilling to flee from Iran was made up of devout and committed people aiming to protect their sacred places and synagogues regardless of the threats and persecutions, as well as seniors who were unable to resettle elsewhere.

Humanitarian Tragedy: Iran?s Beleaguered Jewish Community | FrontPage Magazine