Liberals On Abortion

[Chuz Life]

I'm a lefty that agrees with much of what you say. However, you should save some of your anger for the Right-to-Lifers that claim there is no 'tissue', only baby.

One cannot have a rational argument about where the aforesaid line of Tissue/Baby demarkation should be drawn because they don't recognize a set of chromosomes as being any different from an adult human being.

Free your mind.

This is a mighty oak tree in the first days of it's life.

THIS is a human being / a person in the first days of THEIR human life.

 

[alang1216]

Free your mind.

This is a mighty oak tree in the first days of it's life.

THIS is a human being / a person in the first days of THEIR human life.

 

[Dragonlady]

Free your mind.

This is a mighty oak tree in the first days of it's life.

THIS is a human being / a person in the first days of THEIR human life.

This isn't a live baby. This child is not breathing independently. It is a fetus in development. THIS is a baby in its first days of life.

Tell me Chuz, if you found that "mighty oak tree" growing too close to it's mother tree, or too close to your foundation so that it would destroy your house, and you have no room for another mighty oak tree in your yard, do you pull the seedling out of the ground or do you respect it's right to exist and just leave it there?

How would you feel if your neighbour called you a murderer and said you have no right to pull that seedling?

 

[PoliticalChic]

This isn't a live baby. This child is not breathing independently. It is a fetus in development. THIS is a baby in its first days of life.

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Tell me Chuz, if you found that "mighty oak tree" growing too close to it's mother tree, or too close to your foundation so that it would destroy your house, and you have no room for another mighty oak tree in your yard, do you pull the seedling out of the ground or do you respect it's right to exist and just leave it there?

How would you feel if your neighbour called you a murderer and said you have no right to pull that seedling?

"This child is not breathing independently. "


You must imagine (I almost said 'think') then, that you have the right to slaughter every wuhan virus patient on a ventilator, too.


Quite a bloodthirsty bunch, you Bolsheviks......er, Liberals.

 

[Chuz Life]

That concept actually reveals your ignorance.

 

[Chuz Life]

This isn't a live baby. This child is not breathing independently. It is a fetus in development. THIS is a baby in its first days of life.

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Tell me Chuz, if you found that "mighty oak tree" growing too close to it's mother tree, or too close to your foundation so that it would destroy your house, and you have no room for another mighty oak tree in your yard, do you pull the seedling out of the ground or do you respect it's right to exist and just leave it there?

How would you feel if your neighbour called you a murderer and said you have no right to pull that seedling?

Cellular respiration. . .

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[alang1216]

That concept actually reveals your ignorance.

Does not!

 

[ColonelAngus]

Abortion is murder.

We have legal murder,like government executions.

 

[Chuz Life]

Does not!

Yes.

It does.

You IGNORANTLY use the image of an UNFERTILIZED egg to argue that an actually fertilized egg is NOT an organism.

That is both a sign of IGNORANCE and dishonesty.

 

[PoliticalChic]

That concept actually reveals your ignorance.

It is a well practiced ignorance.

Somehow, Liberals have been trained to revel in it.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Abortion is murder.

We have legal murder,like government executions.

If black lives mattered, they'd be rioting in front of Planned Slaughterhood clinics.

 

[ColonelAngus]

If black lives mattered, they'd be rioting in front of Planned Slaughterhood clinics.

X10000000

 

[alang1216]

Yes.

It does.

You IGNORANTLY use the image of an UNFERTILIZED egg to argue that an actually fertilized egg is NOT an organism.

That is both a sign of IGNORANCE and dishonesty.

If you wish to address ignorance, tell me how you know the egg was not fertilized? How do you know it is a chicken egg? Be honest now.

 

[Chuz Life]

If you wish to address ignorance, tell me how you know the egg was not fertilized? How do you know it is a chicken egg? Be honest now.

Fucktard, zoom in.

The sperm in your image is OUTSIDE of the fucking egg.

Derp.

 

[Cecilie1200]

This isn't a live baby. This child is not breathing independently. It is a fetus in development. THIS is a baby in its first days of life.

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Tell me Chuz, if you found that "mighty oak tree" growing too close to it's mother tree, or too close to your foundation so that it would destroy your house, and you have no room for another mighty oak tree in your yard, do you pull the seedling out of the ground or do you respect it's right to exist and just leave it there?

How would you feel if your neighbour called you a murderer and said you have no right to pull that seedling?

"That's not a live baby, because my 4th grade education doesn't explain it to me! I'm so stupid I think 'fetus' means something other than 'baby'!"

At what point is your shriveled brain stem going to wrap around the fact that the more you try to sound informed and scientific with an ignorance that medieval people would find embarrassing, the more of a fool you make yourself?

Tell me. What in the actual fuck does your lame-ass attempt at an analogy have to do with ANYTHING?! "Abortion is okay and doesn't make me an evil monster, because trees planted too close to houses are bad!" Really, LizardBitch? Even YOU can't be so pig-stupid as to think that's any sort of coherent argument.

 

[alang1216]

Fucktard, zoom in.

The sperm in your image is OUTSIDE of the fucking egg.

Derp.

News flash, human fertilization involves millions (billions? trillions?) of sperm. You see one outside and assume there are none inside? You know what happens when you assume?

 

[Chuz Life]

Fucktard, zoom in.

The sperm in your image is OUTSIDE of the fucking egg.

Derp.

News flash, human fertilization involves millions (billions? trillions?) of sperm. You see one outside and assume there are none inside? You know what happens when you assume?

Fuckingtard. . . If the image that you posted is meant to illustrate a person in the zygote stage of their life, it fails to do so. Deceptively.

THIS is an example of the image of what you describe.

Note the difference.

 

[otto105]

I'm a lefty that agrees with much of what you say. However, you should save some of your anger for the Right-to-Lifers that claim there is no 'tissue', only baby.

One cannot have a rational argument about where the aforesaid line of Tissue/Baby demarkation should be drawn because they don't recognize a set of chromosomes as being any different from an adult human being.

Free your mind.

This is a mighty oak tree in the first days of it's life.

THIS is a human being / a person in the first days of THEIR human life.

That is not a zygote on day 1 or 2.

 

[Viktor]

I mean real Liberals, those with integrity and a reputable view of the world, not the mind numbed variety that adhere to the Democrats no matter how insane their current agenda is.




1.Perhaps you’ve noticed that today the strongest Liberals/Democrats are those with the least ability to analyze what they are supporting. As a result, just as Orwell predicted in 1984, they can’t keep straight whether they are at war with Eastasia, or Eurasia. They need not keep track, they simply agree that the enemy at the moment is whoever the leadership says it is.
And today it is the unborn.

Hence, the Liberals were against gay marriage before they were for it. They opposed socialism before they were for it. And they opposed nuclear weapons for Iran before they were in favor of it.
So, no big deal to want to exterminate the defenseless.....

They are clueless to 180° turns by the party. Morons simply march lock-step via the party’s orders.





I came across an interesting real-Liberal essay opposing abortion, and it is instructive to peruse.


2.“Abortion: The Left has betrayed the sanctity of life From The Progressive magazine. Abortion: The Left has betrayed the sanctity of life
Consistency demands concern for the unborn

The abortion issue, more than most, illustrates the occasional tendency of the Left to become so enthusiastic over what is called a "reform" that it forgets to think the issue through. It is ironic that so many on the Left have done on abortion what the conservatives and Cold War liberals did on Vietnam: They marched off in the wrong direction, to fight the wrong war, against the wrong people.

3. Some of us … are now active in the right-to-life movement. We do not enjoy opposing our old friends on the abortion issue, but we feel that we have no choice. We are moved by what pro-life feminists call the "consistency thing" -- the belief that respect for human life demands opposition to abortion, capital punishment, euthanasia, and war. We don't think we have either the luxury or the right to choose some types of killing and say that they are all right, while others are not. A human life is a human life; and if equality means anything, it means that society may not value some human lives over others.




4. Until the last decade, people on the Left and Right generally agreed on one rule: We all protected the young. This was not merely agreement on an ethical question: It was also an expression of instinct, so deep and ancient that it scarcely required explanation. Protection of the young included protection of the unborn, for abortion was forbidden by state laws throughout the United States. Those laws reflected an ethical consensus, not based solely on religious tradition but also on scientific evidence that human life begins at conception. The prohibition of abortion in the ancient Hippocratic Oath is well known.

5. …it is important to ask why the Left in the United States generally accepted legalized abortion. One factor was the popular civil libertarian rationale for freedom of choice in abortion. Many feminists presented it as a right of women to control their own bodies. When the objection was raised that abortion ruins another person's body, they respond that a) it is not a body, just a "blob of protoplasm" (thereby displaying ignorance of biology); or b) it is not really a "person" until it is born.

When it was suggested that this is a wholly arbitrary decision, unsupported by any biology evidence, they said, "Well, that's your point of view. This is a matter of individual conscience, and in a pluralistic society people must be free to follow their consciences."




Thinking Liberals, largely an oxymoron today, continue embracing rectitude over party loyalty.

The left has misrepresented Roe v Wade, the landmark case on abortion. The Sup Ct did not say all abortions are legal. They said no state may ban abortion for the 1st 3 months of pregnancy. After that, the states may regulate abortion as they see fit.

 

[Chuz Life]

I'm a lefty that agrees with much of what you say. However, you should save some of your anger for the Right-to-Lifers that claim there is no 'tissue', only baby.

One cannot have a rational argument about where the aforesaid line of Tissue/Baby demarkation should be drawn because they don't recognize a set of chromosomes as being any different from an adult human being.

Free your mind.

This is a mighty oak tree in the first days of it's life.

THIS is a human being / a person in the first days of THEIR human life.

That is not a zygote on day 1 or 2.

Neither is the sprouting acorn picture literally of day 1 or 2 of germination.

So?

STILL, They (both) are in their first "days" of life. They are young members of their species.

If you need more litteral pictures to illustrate the first days. . . Why? The point will be exactly the same.