Lib/Dems should ask themselves this question:

[CrusaderFrank]

Please run on that. Obama and the dems were too moderate, they [need] to confirm that they are every bit as [progressive] as their OWS base

[Text in brackets inserted to correct grammar and stupidity.]

I don't have any control over how the Democrats campaign, unfortunately, but yes, that's exactly what they need to do. Even better would be if they actually governed that way, but this is kind of late in the game to start.

Progressive means Marxist/Socialist/Fascist/Statist

 

[sealybobo]

The economy was really bad. The Republican base was ginned up because we have a black president. Historically, few people vote in midterms. And finally, Republicans ran on "Jobs Jobs Jobs". They can't run on that this time. Fool me once, er, Bush said it best:

George Bush's "Fool Me Once" Gaffe - YouTube

Why is it that only Dems/Libs have noticed that the Rs still have not introduced even one jobs bill?

Why is that only Dems/Libs have noticed that Rs have not produced even one job under the asinine Ronnie Ray-Gun tinkle down policy?

Why is it that only Dems/Libs have noticed that the Rs take their money and their jobs out of the US?

Republicans have in fact introduced job bills.


Why is that dem/libs lie?


Senate Republicans offer their own jobs bill

Yea, and remember they said manufacuting jobs were up? They were counting fast food jobs. They said they were manufacturing burgers. Can you believe that? I don't believe any numbers I see from the Bush era.

Like, he didn't even add Iraq war to his annual budget. He listed that as supplimental spending.

But today you bash Obama for his deficit spending and you don't consider that he's not fudging the numbers like the GOP did when they were in power.

The GOP is doomed until at least the 2014 midterms. Because no one shows up to midterms except Rupublicans. Until the 99%'ers get that, this country will continue to be owned by the top 1%. Midterms are just as important as Presidential Election years. Yet look at the turnout! Shameful!!!

 

[Syphon]

Why is it that only Dems/Libs have noticed that the Rs still have not introduced even one jobs bill?

Why is that only Dems/Libs have noticed that Rs have not produced even one job under the asinine Ronnie Ray-Gun tinkle down policy?

Why is it that only Dems/Libs have noticed that the Rs take their money and their jobs out of the US?

Republicans have in fact introduced job bills.


Why is that dem/libs lie?


Senate Republicans offer their own jobs bill

Yea, and remember they said manufacuting jobs were up? They were counting fast food jobs. They said they were manufacturing burgers. Can you believe that? I don't believe any numbers I see from the Bush era.

Like, he didn't even add Iraq war to his annual budget. He listed that as supplimental spending.

But today you bash Obama for his deficit spending and you don't consider that he's not fudging the numbers like the GOP did when they were in power.

The GOP is doomed until at least the 2014 midterms. Because no one shows up to midterms except Rupublicans. Until the 99%'ers get that, this country will continue to be owned by the top 1%. Midterms are just as important as Presidential Election years. Yet look at the turnout! Shameful!!!

" most of the other elements of the plan, including repealing last year's financial overhaul measure and a complete moratorium on new regulations, are nonstarters with the White House and Democrats controlling the Senate"

the repeal of dodd frank is part of this package, hence why it will never see the light of day.
read your own article first, it might help.

 

[rightwinger]

Why do you think the midterm elections went so bad for democrats? Only reason it wasn't worse was because the idiot Tea Partiers didn't know enough to run electable candidates. The 2010 elections went bad for you because you fucked up; you lost the confidence and good opinion of the voters. No need to list the littany of bad decisions, suffice it to say you should've addressed the problems the country wanted you to fix but instead you were more interested in your party's agenda. And for that same reason I think Obama should also be voted out; dunno if it'll happen, much depends on the economy and the UE numbers this year. But he screwed up, could've and should've done a better job even though the situation he inherited was very tough.

I think it is a fair question. Democrats got caught with their pants down in 2010 as the Tea Party had much more clout than Democrats gave them credit for. Dismissed as a bunch of loons by the Dems, the Tea Party showed they could benefit from political discontent in Congressional Districts

Now a question for you...

Who learned more from the election of 2010, the Dems or Republicans? Do Republicans think they can ride the political discontent from 2010 into victories in 2012?
Do Republicans really think the public outrage at Obama is enough that one of their second string presidential candidates can win?

 

[Oldstyle]

2010 didn't prove anything except just how ridiculously susceptible republicans are to scare tactics. Conservatives need to ask themselves why they are so willing to readily support people who do nothing more than confirm fears, real or imagined.

Interesting concept, Occupied. You contend that the 2010 mid-terms didn't prove anything? Really? You don't think those elections were a referendum on President Obama's progressive agenda? With all due respect, it wasn't just "conservatives" that supported candidates OTHER than Democrats in those races...there were a whole lot of moderates that made their feelings heard, loudly and clearly in those mid-terms. Quite obviously the electorate was not happy with the direction that the progressive wing of the Democratic Party had taken the country. They were not happy with the passage of ObamaCare. They looked at proposed measures like Cap & Trade as job killers in an already down economy and voted out the people that would have given Barack Obama the power to pass such legislation.

I know that the usual song and dance from the Left is to try and paint all conservatives as "fear mongerers" simply because they point out (quite correctly) that we can't keep on spending money the way we are without dire fiscal consequences but I think it's been shown that the American people are uncomfortable with our level of debt and would like something done about it now...not ten years down the road, which seems to be when this Administrations spending cuts would take place. In reality the "fear mongering" has been from those who attack anyone who proposes reforms to our entitlements, which even the most biased observer would admit is the overwhelming source of our projected debt. This President won't even talk about Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid let alone propose anything to fix runaway costs. His has been a total failure of leadership on that issue. Just as when he was a fledgling politician back in Illinois...his response to a tough issue has been to be "present" and "present" doesn't cut it in the Oval Office.

 

[sealybobo]

Why do you think the midterm elections went so bad for democrats? Only reason it wasn't worse was because the idiot Tea Partiers didn't know enough to run electable candidates. The 2010 elections went bad for you because you fucked up; you lost the confidence and good opinion of the voters. No need to list the littany of bad decisions, suffice it to say you should've addressed the problems the country wanted you to fix but instead you were more interested in your party's agenda. And for that same reason I think Obama should also be voted out; dunno if it'll happen, much depends on the economy and the UE numbers this year. But he screwed up, could've and should've done a better job even though the situation he inherited was very tough.

I think it is a fair question. Democrats got caught with their pants down in 2010 as the Tea Party had much more clout than Democrats gave them credit for. Dismissed as a bunch of loons by the Dems, the Tea Party showed they could benefit from political discontent in Congressional Districts

Now a question for you...

Who learned more from the election of 2010, the Dems or Republicans? Do Republicans think they can ride the political discontent from 2010 into victories in 2012?
Do Republicans really think the public outrage at Obama is enough that one of their second string presidential candidates can win?

The only outrage is coming from people who were going to be outraged with him no matter what. They are hoping people who don't pay attention hear their whining and believe their lies.

But as for who learned more from the 2010 elections? We will see come the next midterms. I don't know if the 99%ers will show up in 2014. They didn't in 2010. But one things for sure. The tea party will show up every two years.

 

[Oldstyle]

Why is it that only Dems/Libs have noticed that the Rs still have not introduced even one jobs bill?

Why is that only Dems/Libs have noticed that Rs have not produced even one job under the asinine Ronnie Ray-Gun tinkle down policy?

Why is it that only Dems/Libs have noticed that the Rs take their money and their jobs out of the US?

Republicans have in fact introduced job bills.


Why is that dem/libs lie?


Senate Republicans offer their own jobs bill

Yea, and remember they said manufacuting jobs were up? They were counting fast food jobs. They said they were manufacturing burgers. Can you believe that? I don't believe any numbers I see from the Bush era.

Like, he didn't even add Iraq war to his annual budget. He listed that as supplimental spending.

But today you bash Obama for his deficit spending and you don't consider that he's not fudging the numbers like the GOP did when they were in power.

The GOP is doomed until at least the 2014 midterms. Because no one shows up to midterms except Rupublicans. Until the 99%'ers get that, this country will continue to be owned by the top 1%. Midterms are just as important as Presidential Election years. Yet look at the turnout! Shameful!!!

Only one thing wrong with your contention that no one shows up for midterms, Sealy...the 2010 mid-terms shattered voter turnout records. Gee, so much for that theory...

 

[Lonestar_logic]

Why is it that only Dems/Libs have noticed that the Rs still have not introduced even one jobs bill?

Why is that only Dems/Libs have noticed that Rs have not produced even one job under the asinine Ronnie Ray-Gun tinkle down policy?

Why is it that only Dems/Libs have noticed that the Rs take their money and their jobs out of the US?

Republicans have in fact introduced job bills.


Why is that dem/libs lie?


Senate Republicans offer their own jobs bill

Yea, and remember they said manufacuting jobs were up? They were counting fast food jobs. They said they were manufacturing burgers. Can you believe that? I don't believe any numbers I see from the Bush era.

Like, he didn't even add Iraq war to his annual budget. He listed that as supplimental spending.

But today you bash Obama for his deficit spending and you don't consider that he's not fudging the numbers like the GOP did when they were in power.

The GOP is doomed until at least the 2014 midterms. Because no one shows up to midterms except Rupublicans. Until the 99%'ers get that, this country will continue to be owned by the top 1%. Midterms are just as important as Presidential Election years. Yet look at the turnout! Shameful!!!

No I don't remember. And who are "they"?

You need to provide a link.

And I do I believe Obama fudges the numbers. As a matter of fact I think Obama is mathmatically challenged.

 

[Big Fitz]

2010 didn't prove anything except just how ridiculously susceptible republicans are to scare tactics. Conservatives need to ask themselves why they are so willing to readily support people who do nothing more than confirm fears, real or imagined.

and 2008 did then???

 

[rightwinger]

Why do you think the midterm elections went so bad for democrats? Only reason it wasn't worse was because the idiot Tea Partiers didn't know enough to run electable candidates. The 2010 elections went bad for you because you fucked up; you lost the confidence and good opinion of the voters. No need to list the littany of bad decisions, suffice it to say you should've addressed the problems the country wanted you to fix but instead you were more interested in your party's agenda. And for that same reason I think Obama should also be voted out; dunno if it'll happen, much depends on the economy and the UE numbers this year. But he screwed up, could've and should've done a better job even though the situation he inherited was very tough.

I think it is a fair question. Democrats got caught with their pants down in 2010 as the Tea Party had much more clout than Democrats gave them credit for. Dismissed as a bunch of loons by the Dems, the Tea Party showed they could benefit from political discontent in Congressional Districts

Now a question for you...

Who learned more from the election of 2010, the Dems or Republicans? Do Republicans think they can ride the political discontent from 2010 into victories in 2012?
Do Republicans really think the public outrage at Obama is enough that one of their second string presidential candidates can win?

The only outrage is coming from people who were going to be outraged with him no matter what. They are hoping people who don't pay attention hear their whining and believe their lies.

But as for who learned more from the 2010 elections? We will see come the next midterms. I don't know if the 99%ers will show up in 2014. They didn't in 2010. But one things for sure. The tea party will show up every two years.

Will the Tea Baggers show up with Romney leading the GOP ticket?

The Tea Baggers who were elected in 2010 will have a tough time getting reelected. Their actions in Congress have not been too popular. They basically did what they said they would do and now the people who voted for them háček seen what Tea Bagging means

If Obama takes a huge lead in the polls, Conservatives will stay home to retaliate against the hated Romney. If so, Republicans will lose at all levels

 

[sealybobo]

2010 didn't prove anything except just how ridiculously susceptible republicans are to scare tactics. Conservatives need to ask themselves why they are so willing to readily support people who do nothing more than confirm fears, real or imagined.

Interesting concept, Occupied. You contend that the 2010 mid-terms didn't prove anything? Really? You don't think those elections were a referendum on President Obama's progressive agenda? With all due respect, it wasn't just "conservatives" that supported candidates OTHER than Democrats in those races...there were a whole lot of moderates that made their feelings heard, loudly and clearly in those mid-terms. Quite obviously the electorate was not happy with the direction that the progressive wing of the Democratic Party had taken the country. They were not happy with the passage of ObamaCare. They looked at proposed measures like Cap & Trade as job killers in an already down economy and voted out the people that would have given Barack Obama the power to pass such legislation.

I know that the usual song and dance from the Left is to try and paint all conservatives as "fear mongerers" simply because they point out (quite correctly) that we can't keep on spending money the way we are without dire fiscal consequences but I think it's been shown that the American people are uncomfortable with our level of debt and would like something done about it now...not ten years down the road, which seems to be when this Administrations spending cuts would take place. In reality the "fear mongering" has been from those who attack anyone who proposes reforms to our entitlements, which even the most biased observer would admit is the overwhelming source of our projected debt. This President won't even talk about Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid let alone propose anything to fix runaway costs. His has been a total failure of leadership on that issue. Just as when he was a fledgling politician back in Illinois...his response to a tough issue has been to be "present" and "present" doesn't cut it in the Oval Office.

It was not a referendum on President Obama's progressive agenda. If all the people that voted in 2008 would have showed up again in 2010, the Democrats would have kept the House. But liberals/moderates/Democrats/Poor people/the masses just don't get how important midterms are.

The only real referendums are during Presidential election years. And you are going to see our referendum on Paul Ryan and Boehner and Mitch McConnell and all the GOP Governors who are trying to kill unions and overturn roe v wade. And who do you imagine the Occupy Wallstreet people are going to vote for? How about hispanics? You can't win!!!

Midterms are the Republicans secret weapon to keeping power in Washington. Google and look up how many eligable Americans vote during midterms vs presidential election years.

Until Democratic voters and people who don't vote understand how important voting is and midterms, the rich will always maintain enough power that they can stop any real progress. We need to run the out of office.

Oh, and your side is not energized because they see the writing on the wall. THey'll wait for 2014 midterms and try again. Maybe the 99%ers have learned their lesson.

Republicans Losing Interest in Presidential Race
A new Associated Press-GfK poll finds nterest in the Republican presidential race is slipping: Just 40% of Republicans say they have a great deal of interest in following the contest, compared with 48% in December.

Key findings: Only 23% are strongly satisfied with the field and 40% said they are dissatisfied with the candidates running.

 

[Oldstyle]

Why do you think the midterm elections went so bad for democrats? Only reason it wasn't worse was because the idiot Tea Partiers didn't know enough to run electable candidates. The 2010 elections went bad for you because you fucked up; you lost the confidence and good opinion of the voters. No need to list the littany of bad decisions, suffice it to say you should've addressed the problems the country wanted you to fix but instead you were more interested in your party's agenda. And for that same reason I think Obama should also be voted out; dunno if it'll happen, much depends on the economy and the UE numbers this year. But he screwed up, could've and should've done a better job even though the situation he inherited was very tough.

I think it is a fair question. Democrats got caught with their pants down in 2010 as the Tea Party had much more clout than Democrats gave them credit for. Dismissed as a bunch of loons by the Dems, the Tea Party showed they could benefit from political discontent in Congressional Districts

Now a question for you...

Who learned more from the election of 2010, the Dems or Republicans? Do Republicans think they can ride the political discontent from 2010 into victories in 2012?
Do Republicans really think the public outrage at Obama is enough that one of their second string presidential candidates can win?

The only outrage is coming from people who were going to be outraged with him no matter what. They are hoping people who don't pay attention hear their whining and believe their lies.

But as for who learned more from the 2010 elections? We will see come the next midterms. I don't know if the 99%ers will show up in 2014. They didn't in 2010. But one things for sure. The tea party will show up every two years.

The people that probably won't show up in 2012 is the youth vote that bought into the whole "Hope & Change" thing from Barack Obama. They've gotten a look at the reality of an Obama Presidency and it's been at best "underwhelming". These are young people who have graduated from college carrying huge student loan debts only to face a job market that continues to be stagnant because of an economy that continues to tread water. As usual, progressive "concepts" that seem so wonderful in theory have struggled when confronted with the real world. Liberal economists like Larry Summers and Christina Romer have fled back to the halls of academia with their tails between their legs because their long desired Keynesian spend-fest has flopped badly. This is an Administration who's economic policy is rudderless at present. They tried something and it didn't work. Now they don't know what to do except point fingers to try and deflect the blame.

 

[Billy000]

Why do you think the midterm elections went so bad for democrats? Only reason it wasn't worse was because the idiot Tea Partiers didn't know enough to run electable candidates. The 2010 elections went bad for you because you fucked up; you lost the confidence and good opinion of the voters. No need to list the littany of bad decisions, suffice it to say you should've addressed the problems the country wanted you to fix but instead you were more interested in your party's agenda. And for that same reason I think Obama should also be voted out; dunno if it'll happen, much depends on the economy and the UE numbers this year. But he screwed up, could've and should've done a better job even though the situation he inherited was very tough.

I think you're absolutely right. The Dems did let politics get in the way. However, Republicans are currently no different.

 

[Wiseacre]

Why do you think the midterm elections went so bad for democrats? Only reason it wasn't worse was because the idiot Tea Partiers didn't know enough to run electable candidates. The 2010 elections went bad for you because you fucked up; you lost the confidence and good opinion of the voters. No need to list the littany of bad decisions, suffice it to say you should've addressed the problems the country wanted you to fix but instead you were more interested in your party's agenda. And for that same reason I think Obama should also be voted out; dunno if it'll happen, much depends on the economy and the UE numbers this year. But he screwed up, could've and should've done a better job even though the situation he inherited was very tough.

I think it is a fair question. Democrats got caught with their pants down in 2010 as the Tea Party had much more clout than Democrats gave them credit for. Dismissed as a bunch of loons by the Dems, the Tea Party showed they could benefit from political discontent in Congressional Districts

Now a question for you...

Who learned more from the election of 2010, the Dems or Republicans? Do Republicans think they can ride the political discontent from 2010 into victories in 2012?
Do Republicans really think the public outrage at Obama is enough that one of their second string presidential candidates can win?

I think some repubs think exactly that, there's enough anger and disappointment at what's been done over the past 3 years to get Obama voted out no matter who the GOP person is. Of course, a lot depends on how things go with jobs and the economy all the way to November, if things continue to improve even modestly as they have been over the last few months then Obama has a shot.

As to your question, I am not sure either side really got the message. I think voters want something done about the economy and jobs, and they don't like the bickering and political bullshit going on by both parties. That's one big reason why I think Obama is in big trouble if the economy stalls or worsens, he comes across as too partisan IMHO.

 

[Oldstyle]

2010 didn't prove anything except just how ridiculously susceptible republicans are to scare tactics. Conservatives need to ask themselves why they are so willing to readily support people who do nothing more than confirm fears, real or imagined.

Interesting concept, Occupied. You contend that the 2010 mid-terms didn't prove anything? Really? You don't think those elections were a referendum on President Obama's progressive agenda? With all due respect, it wasn't just "conservatives" that supported candidates OTHER than Democrats in those races...there were a whole lot of moderates that made their feelings heard, loudly and clearly in those mid-terms. Quite obviously the electorate was not happy with the direction that the progressive wing of the Democratic Party had taken the country. They were not happy with the passage of ObamaCare. They looked at proposed measures like Cap & Trade as job killers in an already down economy and voted out the people that would have given Barack Obama the power to pass such legislation.

I know that the usual song and dance from the Left is to try and paint all conservatives as "fear mongerers" simply because they point out (quite correctly) that we can't keep on spending money the way we are without dire fiscal consequences but I think it's been shown that the American people are uncomfortable with our level of debt and would like something done about it now...not ten years down the road, which seems to be when this Administrations spending cuts would take place. In reality the "fear mongering" has been from those who attack anyone who proposes reforms to our entitlements, which even the most biased observer would admit is the overwhelming source of our projected debt. This President won't even talk about Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid let alone propose anything to fix runaway costs. His has been a total failure of leadership on that issue. Just as when he was a fledgling politician back in Illinois...his response to a tough issue has been to be "present" and "present" doesn't cut it in the Oval Office.

It was not a referendum on President Obama's progressive agenda. If all the people that voted in 2008 would have showed up again in 2010, the Democrats would have kept the House. But liberals/moderates/Democrats/Poor people/the masses just don't get how important midterms are.

The only real referendums are during Presidential election years. And you are going to see our referendum on Paul Ryan and Boehner and Mitch McConnell and all the GOP Governors who are trying to kill unions and overturn roe v wade. And who do you imagine the Occupy Wallstreet people are going to vote for? How about hispanics? You can't win!!!

Midterms are the Republicans secret weapon to keeping power in Washington. Google and look up how many eligable Americans vote during midterms vs presidential election years.

Until Democratic voters and people who don't vote understand how important voting is and midterms, the rich will always maintain enough power that they can stop any real progress. We need to run the out of office.

Oh, and your side is not energized because they see the writing on the wall. THey'll wait for 2014 midterms and try again. Maybe the 99%ers have learned their lesson.

Republicans Losing Interest in Presidential Race
A new Associated Press-GfK poll finds nterest in the Republican presidential race is slipping: Just 40% of Republicans say they have a great deal of interest in following the contest, compared with 48% in December.

Key findings: Only 23% are strongly satisfied with the field and 40% said they are dissatisfied with the candidates running.

As for Republican "interest" in the Presidential race? Do you REALLY think that Republicans won't show up to vote against Barack Obama no matter who the Republican candidate is? I think you've seriously misjudged the level of dislike that Republicans have for Barry. My prediction is that the Republicans will be there in November no matter who gets the GOP nomination. The question is...who will moderates and Independents vote for...and will the youth vote turn out for Obama like it did in 2008. The former depends on the economy and as for the latter...I don't think there's a chance in hell of generating the same fervor amongst the young voters again after seeing Obaman, Reid and Pelosi in action. Sorry, but the bloom is off that rose.

 

[Mac1958]

I wouldn't be terribly surprised to see overall voting totals down, perhaps significantly, in 2012. Here's the funny thing: The lefties think GOP turnout will be down because their candidate will be so lousy, and the righties think the Democrat turnout will be down because the hopenchange thing has died out. I'd guess they could BOTH be correct.

Both parties must be SO proud.

.

 

[Zander]

Meanwhile, Obama beats all Republican presidential candidates.

Obama vs. Romney, + 5.1 Obama

Obama vs Santorum, +6.3 Obama

Obama vs Gingrich, +13.7 Obama

Obama vs Paul, + 8.3 Obama

RealClearPolitics - President Obama vs. Republican Candidates

Not according to Gallup. Romney is ahead by 4 points. Santorum is basically tied with Obama. If you think Obama is going to have an easy time beating either of these candidates you are living in fantasyland....

Romney, Santorum Closely Matched Against Obama Nationally

 

[Billy000]

Meanwhile, Obama beats all Republican presidential candidates.

Obama vs. Romney, + 5.1 Obama

Obama vs Santorum, +6.3 Obama

Obama vs Gingrich, +13.7 Obama

Obama vs Paul, + 8.3 Obama

RealClearPolitics - President Obama vs. Republican Candidates

Not according to Gallup. Romney is ahead by 4 points. Santorum is basically tied with Obama. If you think Obama is going to have an easy time beating either of these candidates you are living in fantasyland....

Romney, Santorum Closely Matched Against Obama Nationally

If Santorum gets the nomination, you might as well get comfortable with Obama for another 4 years. I don't care what the polls show now.

Romney is his only threat.

 

[sealybobo]

I think it is a fair question. Democrats got caught with their pants down in 2010 as the Tea Party had much more clout than Democrats gave them credit for. Dismissed as a bunch of loons by the Dems, the Tea Party showed they could benefit from political discontent in Congressional Districts

Now a question for you...

Who learned more from the election of 2010, the Dems or Republicans? Do Republicans think they can ride the political discontent from 2010 into victories in 2012?
Do Republicans really think the public outrage at Obama is enough that one of their second string presidential candidates can win?

The only outrage is coming from people who were going to be outraged with him no matter what. They are hoping people who don't pay attention hear their whining and believe their lies.

But as for who learned more from the 2010 elections? We will see come the next midterms. I don't know if the 99%ers will show up in 2014. They didn't in 2010. But one things for sure. The tea party will show up every two years.

Will the Tea Baggers show up with Romney leading the GOP ticket?

The Tea Baggers who were elected in 2010 will have a tough time getting reelected. Their actions in Congress have not been too popular. They basically did what they said they would do and now the people who voted for them háček seen what Tea Bagging means

If Obama takes a huge lead in the polls, Conservatives will stay home to retaliate against the hated Romney. If so, Republicans will lose at all levels

They are stupid if they don't show up for Romney because Romney will clearly do whatever they tell him to do. Would Romney have stopped them from making all the cuts to social programs and medicare that they wanted to cut? Of course he would not. This worries me. I think they will ultimately show up for whoever the GOP nominates and it is up to us to show up in droves to win. We can't hope they are going to sit this one out.

What if he picks Ron Paul as his VP? My conservative buddy suggested that to me today and that could be interesting.

But isn't it odd that Ron Paul isn't the spokesman for the tea party? Why is that? Could it be because the Tea Party is backed by billionaires who actually like the fascism that Ron Paul would end?

I'm not a Ron Paul fan. I'm for changing the Democratic party back to the party that represented labor, or middle class America. Today it has been corrupted too much by money too and that needs to change. We as voters and constituents have the power to make our politicians do anything we want. And if they renig, we can always recall them. But we need the middle class Americans who are voting with the rich to stop doing that. Join us. And if a Democrat like Max Baucus votes with the GOP, replace him in the primary instead of running him as the encumbant because liberals aren't going to show up for a traitor like him or Liberman.

 

[Wiseacre]

Meanwhile, Obama beats all Republican presidential candidates.

Obama vs. Romney, + 5.1 Obama

Obama vs Santorum, +6.3 Obama

Obama vs Gingrich, +13.7 Obama

Obama vs Paul, + 8.3 Obama

RealClearPolitics - President Obama vs. Republican Candidates

Not according to Gallup. Romney is ahead by 4 points. Santorum is basically tied with Obama. If you think Obama is going to have an easy time beating either of these candidates you are living in fantasyland....

Romney, Santorum Closely Matched Against Obama Nationally

Right now the repub contenders are punching each other in the face on a daily basis and Obama's number are improving as the economy has gotten modestly better. But we'll see what happens after August when the repubs have chosen their nominee and how the economy looks then.