LGBT Staff Won't Serve Christians

[martybegan]

please show me where the right to discriminate, as a business serving the public, falls under the 1st amendment.

Free exercise. Where in the constitution is commerce for a specific item, especially a contracted one, guaranteed?

If a priest can refuse to officiate a SSM under free exercise, why should a baker be denied the same ability to deny providing a cake?

Where does the 1st amendment say it is limited to the clergy?

 

[Papageorgio]

they booked already & deserve compensation for a contract that was broken. were they were denied because of the employees' discrimination against them, or ALL christians?

A court might have to determine that however they had a right to turn them down as any business should be allowed. I think people should post signs in windows that the are bigots and I could avoid these places.

 

[playtime]

Apparently, you've never seen that sign that says "We Reserve The Right To Refuse Service.............."


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apparently it's not what you think it is or means:

Does your business have the right to refuse service to customers?​

By Insureon Staff
Updated: January 19, 2022
Business owners have the right to refuse service to customers for legitimate reasons. Learn when it’s legal to turn away a would-be customer, and when it could land you in court.
You’ve probably seen a sign in a store or restaurant that read, “We reserve the right to refuse service,” or “No shoes, no shirt, no service.”
Some upscale restaurants and night clubs also reserve the right to refuse entry by enforcing dress codes, such as no jeans or tennis shoes. As long as businesses can offer legitimate reasons for refusing service, and they’re applied equally to everyone, there likely won’t be a problem.
As a small business owner, you have the right to refuse service to customers for certain reasons: for example, if people are being disruptive or intoxicated. However, there are limits on when a business can refuse to provide a service.
Let's look at when the law allows you to reject a customer, and when refusing to sell to a customer could lead to a lawsuit.

When refusing a customer is illegal​

There are many anti-discrimination laws at the federal, state, and local level. Chief among these is the Civil Rights Act of 1964, which forbids discrimination on the basis of race, color, religion, sex, or national origin in public accommodations.
Under Title VII of that federal law, no business is allowed to turn away a customer based on their status as a member of one of these protected classes. Based on recent court rulings, sexual orientation and gender identity are now also federally protected classes.
State laws and local governments may further extend protection to people based on their genetic information or political affiliation.
A well-known example is the case of a Colorado baker whom, based on his religious beliefs, refused to bake a wedding cake for a gay couple. At the time, the federal Civil Rights Act didn’t protect people on the basis of sexual orientation, though Colorado’s anti-discrimination laws did.
In 2018, the Supreme Court narrowly ruled for the baker, but that decision did not prevent courts from ruling in favor of legal protections for gay people in the future. In 2020, the Supreme Court did provide extended Title VII protections to the LGBTQ community.
Does Your Business Have the Right to Refuse Service to Customers? | Insureon

 

[SassyIrishLass]

please show me where the right to discriminate, as a business serving the public, falls under the 1st amendment.

You're confusing freedom of religion with discrimination

Now show where in the 1st where business is noted

 

[playtime]

You're confusing freedom of religion with discrimination

you're confusing freedom of religion with freedom FROM religion

Now show where in the 1st where business is noted

personal freedom & serving the public as a biz'nez are not the same.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

you're confusing freedom of religion with freedom FROM religion



personal freedom & serving the public as a biz'nez are not the same.

Show me in the Constitution it says freedom from religion

Jesus Christ you're fcking dumb

 

[playtime]

Show me in the Constitution it says freedom from religion

are you saying being agnostic or an atheist is not protected under the constitution ... or that you just wish they weren't?

Jesus Christ you're fcking dumb

 

[SassyIrishLass]

are you saying being agnostic or an atheist is not protected under the constitution ... or that you just wish they weren't?




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I never said that, you implied it

Now go bother someone else

 

[Muhammed]

Hey what happened to "Bake the Cake"?

I wonder if they would serve a group of Muslims that came in? I'm guessing yes, because that's different.

The ministry should sue the business for breach of contract.

 

[Blaster]

I think it's funny the left suddenly thinks a business doesn't have to accommodate.
It's hypocrisy

Many folks on the right also believe in this.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

The ministry should sue the business for breach of contract.

I'd like to see where the business told the Christians they don't serve Christians when the business accepted the reservation

 

[Blaster]

Big difference.

No difference in my opinion.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Many folks on the right also believe in this.

I doubt they believe it while demanding a cake be baked... while shrugging a business doesn't have to serve Christians

 

[Blaster]

I doubt they believe it while demanding a cake be baked... while shrugging a business doesn't have to serve Christians

Folks discriminate on both sides of the political spectrum.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Folks discriminate on both sides of the political spectrum.

Probably. But I think the hypocrisy of this one escapes you

 

[Blaster]

Probably. But I think the hypocrisy of this one escapes you

Hypocrisy is something both the left and the right have in common.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

A wait staff would be within their rights to refuse service to a same sex couple, right?

 

[Blaster]

A wait staff would be within their rights to refuse service to a same sex couple, right?

They should be within their rights but I'm sure they probably would be sued.

 

[The Duke]

The ministry should sue the business for breach of contract.

AND violating their Civil Rights.

They refused them service on the basis of religion.

 

[martybegan]

you're confusing freedom of religion with freedom FROM religion



personal freedom & serving the public as a biz'nez are not the same.

Please show me where the constitution discusses the right to be sold something no matter what.