Letter to the White Race

[Gunny]

Calling WJ names sure is a great counter to his arguments. Can't imagine why he might think he's right.

 

[catzmeow]

So why not put a bullet in your brain right now, brown-loving sow? I mean SERIOUSLY. All these whites stepping forward to announce that it's wonderful that the white race is dying... can you imagine Jews doing that? Indians? Anyone? Would you "embrace" the black "race" being bred out of existence? Does anyone not get what's going on here? A race brainwashed to effectuate its own premature demise is one scary fucking thing.

Jesus, God, Mary, Joseph, Odin, Buddha, Moses, forest spirit, Caesar, Hitler, Mussolini, FDR, whoever: hear me! Wake white people the fuck up!

We are not evil people! Even if we are, we have a right to exist!

WHITES HAVE A RIGHT TO EXIST!

Ah, but my cyber-screams are of no use. We whites are like a tree falling in the forest with nobody around to hear. Is this how it ends for us?

This is the guy that you're defending? Ummm, yeah. Good call.

Are you really going to defend his incredibly civilized level of discourse? Calling another poster a sow and suggesting that she put a bullet in her brain for having mixed race kids doesn't qualify as problematic in your book? Beyond that, I actually took the time to address his arguments, and responded in a thoughtful (albeit only partially serious) way. I didn't mention him being an idiot until he made the above post and thus had put himself squarely into that category. Telling another poster to put a bullet in her brain definitely qualifies you as an imbecile, in my book.

I'm going to assume you just missed this one.

 

[sky dancer]

Misguided beliefs; we're all entitled to them. Show him how he's wrong.

 

[catzmeow]

Misguided beliefs; we're all entitled to them. Show him how he's wrong.

Why don't you take the time to read the thread before commenting? I did in fact address his comments, point by point, which is more than I've ever seen you do, Windy.

 

[sky dancer]

Why don't you take the time to read the thread before commenting? I did in fact address his comments, point by point, which is more than I've ever seen you do,

I have read the thread, and I have every right to comment. You may address me as sky dancer.

 

[catzmeow]

I have read the thread, and I have every right to comment. You may address me as sky dancer.

Sorry, your majesty. You'll always be Windy to me.

 

[Old Rocks]

Bullshit.

By your own quote from Burke, one has to state it like it is. William has constantly denigrated anyone who is not white, and stated how inferior he thinks them to be. This kind of thinking has led to many atrocities in the past and will again in the future provided that it is not opposed.

 

[William Joyce]

William has constantly denigrated anyone who is not white, and stated how inferior he thinks them to be.

You just aren't reading my posts. Even my long-time enemies who actually do read my posts would never say that I've ever said Jews or Asians, for instance, have lower IQ's than whites.

In fact, they have HIGHER IQ's than whites (what do you think of THAT, by the way?)

I do indeed make criticisms of of other racial and ethnic groups, but usually by way of simply OBSERVING that, for instance, the black crime rate is far higher than the white crime rate (it's a fact, not "racism" to merely point it out).

And my larger point -- one that admittedly I could do a better job of relaying -- is that racial and ethnic groups are simply incompatible. Life on Earth is best lived when we recognize that actual differences that make it absurd for us all to live in the same country.

That's evil?

We truly live in Orwellian times!

 

[William Joyce]

Perhaps you should get off the internet and find a proud white woman to breed with if this matters so much to you. Make sure you do your part and have at least 15 kids, too. Your very existence is at stake.

Rahooey, idiot! Now, take your 14 words and shove them up your lily white arse.

More little Joyces are on the way! I'm not in Duggar territory, but, hey, nobody's perfect.

Anyway, I am not actually all that fearful that miscegenation will wipe out the white race. It's more a case of whites' own refusal to have kids themselves. But what's comforting to me is that all the white liberals who espouse hatred of whites, open borders, affirmative action, etc. are the same people who don't have kids because it would interfere with their precious liberal lifestyles! Even Doonesbury had to laugh about that one. Meanwhile, conservative whites have kids all over...

 

[Southpaw]

I do indeed make criticisms of of other racial and ethnic groups, but usually by way of simply OBSERVING that, for instance, the black crime rate is far higher than the white crime rate (it's a fact, not "racism" to merely point it out).

It is a factual statement to claim that blacks are disproportionately represented in the prison system.

However, it is also quite easy to see that a) this is a matter of economics and not skin color and b) profiling still occurs.

To try to claim that a group characterized by the pigmentation in their skin is somehow inferior is absolutely ridiculous.

And my larger point -- one that admittedly I could do a better job of relaying -- is that racial and ethnic groups are simply incompatible. Life on Earth is best lived when we recognize that actual differences that make it absurd for us all to live in the same country.

Racial groups are not incompatible. Do you see America right now?

You use your own racism as evidence for claiming that racial groups are incompatible. Nice circular logic.

 

[editec]

Well, given that there isn't really a white race in the U.S. these days, but rather a multitude of distinct cultures, most of which have already been bred out of existence in modern America, I doubt you'll find anyone who can be bothered to give you anything besides a "meh." Personally, I'm English, Irish, Dutch, and German, with a dollop of Seminole Indian. Remind me again which culture I am supposed to preserve since each of those is a mishmash of several separate and distinctive cultures that were all bred out of existence a thousand years ago. Even the "anglo saxon" race is a mishmash of Norman, Saxon, a half dozen Germanic tribes, and Angle. So, please. Spare us the "white race is nearly extinct" rant, Casper. The entire history of humanity is one of intermingling between different groups that were once separate and distinct tribes.

That is true.

Now I hope that William won't be offended if I take this moment to speak on his behalf, at least to the extent that I can understand at least SOME of his complaint.

What will die, and is dying, in fact, is the WHITE-ONLY CULTURE.

Now, I know hundreds of liberals who will rush to the defence of the right of Jews to have Israel, because "They need a place where their culture can survive as Jews"

And those same people will rush to the defence of Amazonian aborigonies, or Kurds, or the Maori, or the Penobscots or what-have you for the same philosophical reason.

They understand that people of different cultures need to have enough like-minded enculturated people around them to HAVE that culture.

So, as far as I can tell, there's a whole lot of my fellow White persons who understand the value for every culture but their own.

I really do think that we need a reservation where Whites who feel that they cannot stand living in a culture that isn't WHITE ENOUGH, ought to have a place to live out thier cultural values, too.

I'm won't be joining that culture any more than I'd want to join a culture that was Jewish, or Penobscot or Maori, but I would not be offended by it, any more than I am offended that the Japanese do NOT want Whites or Blacks or Indians, living in Japan.

But this world is big enough, AND IT OUGHT TO BE TOLERANT ENOUGH, to accept that some people just LOVE their OWN culture and don't especially want to see that culture watered down into something multicultural.

Don't they have that right?

And if they don't, why not?

Every other culture seems to be given that consideration by my liberal chums, so why NOT the Whites?

I'll tell you why....racism.

Yeah, that's right, racism.

On that point, I'm afriad I have to agree with our resident NAZIs. (much as it pains to ever agree with that breed of Whites)

But there IS a double standard here, folks.

Ethnic tolerance and diversity should not be a Whites ONLY cultural suicide pact.​

 

[Southpaw]

What 'white' culture are you talking about?

For the record, I think that libbies take the whole PC thing way too far and denigrate American values at every opportunity.

That being said, I am hesitant when I hear the espousing of 'white culture.'

Is that German culture? Is that French culture? English culture? What culture?

Maybe I'm just misreading you but what are you talking about?

If you are talking about baseball and apple pie, my suggestion to you is to realize that that is American, not white. I love America precisely because we are blended.

 

[catzmeow]

But what's comforting to me is that all the white liberals who espouse hatred of whites, open borders, affirmative action, etc. are the same people who don't have kids because it would interfere with their precious liberal lifestyles! Even Doonesbury had to laugh about that one. Meanwhile, conservative whites have kids all over...

That's because they're mostly lesbians. I have 2 kids, don't hate anyone (though I am anti-idiot), don't believe in open borders, and feel AA has outlived its usefulness.

 

[catzmeow]

What will die, and is dying, in fact, is the WHITE-ONLY CULTURE.

I have no problems with the Germans defending the German culture, the Swedes defending the Swedish culture, the Irish defending the Irish culture.

but, there is no single "white race" tribe, and e pluribus unum is the American way.

 

[editec]

I have no problems with the Germans defending the German culture, the Swedes defending the Swedish culture, the Irish defending the Irish culture.

but, there is no single "white race" tribe, and e pluribus unum is the American way.

Of course there is a EUROCENTRIC culture, although I do not think most White Supremicists agree who gets to be included in it.

If William wants to live in what he thinks is a WASP or Arryan culture ( I dont' understand his theories on race well enough to know what exactly he wants) HOW CAN HE DO THAT?

He cannot.

You know, in order for there to be diversity and tolerance of cultures, there DOES HAVE TO BE diverse cultures to tolerate to begin with.

I am attempting to defend William, here in much the way I am attempting to defend the Afghanisti who JUST DON'T WANT TO BE JUST LIKE US.

That is their right as human beings.

Hey, I don't hear any of you complaining about the Amish who divide their entire world into the Plain volk V "the Englishers". Is that NOT ethnocentrism?

Why not?

I seldom read anyone complaining about the fact that many Jews divide the world into the Jews verus the everyone else who are termed the "gentiles", Is that NOT ethnocentrism?

So what makes William so bad, when they get a pass?

Ya' gotta understand I don't agree with William, I just think William is being given a lot of shit that we don't give to equally ethnocentric groups.

Why is that?

 

[Southpaw]

Of course there is a EUROCENTRIC culture, although I do not think most White Supremicists agree who gets to be included in it.

If William wants to live in what he thinks is a WASP or Arryan culture ( I dont' understand his theories on race well enough to know what exactly he wants) HOW CAN HE DO THAT?

He cannot.

You know, in order for there to be diversity and tolerance of cultures, there DOES HAVE TO BE diverse cultures to tolerate to begin with.

I am attempting to defend William, here in much the way I am attempting to defend the Afghanisti who JUST DON'T WANT TO BE JUST LIKE US.

That is their right as human beings.

Hey, I don't hear any of you complaining about the Amish who divide their entire world into the Plain volk V "the Englishers". Is that NOT ethnocentrism?

Why not?

I seldom read anyone complaining about the fact that many Jews divide the world into the Jews verus the everyone else who are termed the "gentiles", Is that NOT ethnocentrism?

So what makes William so bad, when they get a pass?

Ya' gotta understand I don't agree with William, I just think William is being given a lot of shit that we don't give to equally ethnocentric groups.

Why is that?

Simple. He's on this board and they aren't.

Show me the Amish version of Stormfront and I'll be happy to go troll it for a while.

 

[AllieBaba]

I just popped in because I kept passing over this thread thinking it was about a SPORTING EVENT...as in a race, lol.

 

[catzmeow]

If William wants to live in what he thinks is a WASP or Arryan culture ( I dont' understand his theories on race well enough to know what exactly he wants) HOW CAN HE DO THAT?

He can move to Coeur d'Alene, Idaho, and be right at home.

You know, in order for there to be diversity and tolerance of cultures, there DOES HAVE TO BE diverse cultures to tolerate to begin with.

I totally agree. And there are pockets of distinct culture spread throughout America where you can find exactly what you describe, from Herman, Missouri, with a distinct and heavily German population, to the Gullah populations of South Carolina.

I am attempting to defend William, here in much the way I am attempting to defend the Afghanisti who JUST DON'T WANT TO BE JUST LIKE US.

That is their right as human beings.

LIke the Amish, I don't require them to embrace technology and/or modern commercialism. HOwever, they also need to avoid interfering with other people's basic human rights. So, if an Afghani girl DOES want to be like us, and does want to be educated accordingly, she should not be interfered with.

Hey, I don't hear any of you complaining about the Amish who divide their entire world into the Plain volk V "the Englishers". Is that NOT ethnocentrism?

I don't complain about them. I understand the idea of holding on to one's unique and distinctive heritage. But, William needs to avoid demeaning people who don't subscribe to his view of culture.

In my view, my kids and I are both equally American, even though we come from different racial backgrounds. And, i worry about people who don't subscribe to western notions like the rule of law attempting to impose their own culture on us (for instance, Sunni would like to see Sharia law in the U.S.)

 

[editec]

Simple. He's on this board and they aren't.

Show me the Amish version of Stormfront and I'll be happy to go troll it for a while.

Oh it's that simple?

Or is it that you believe that stormfront is really a front for neo-NAZIs who want to exterminate all of us "mudpeople?".

 

[catzmeow]

Or is it that you believe that stormfront is really a front for neo-NAZIs who want to exterminate all of us "mudpeople?".

Well, stormfront IS all that, and more.