Lets remember WHY Charlottesville rally happened to begin with

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

Makes me wonder if they at least concede that Nazi Germany was the side that should have lost

No one won WW2, really.

I'd say Soviets had, but they lost an enormous amount of get this "White people" from WW2.

Yes, someone won WW2

but apparently, you are more willing to deny victory to WW2 veterans who actually fought to liberate people than you are willing to accept the defeat of people who were fighting to maintain slavery

Says a lot about you

I don't support Confederates, or Nazis, where would you get an idea like that from?

From your views. Where else would someone get that from?

I don't like Western Europeans anymore than Negroes.

Confederates, and Nazis are Western European non-sense that got a lot of White people killed, and they think it's White supremacy.

 

[Pogo]

It was in the South after the war.

Democrats have always been against giving guns to Negroes.

The Confederacy had no political parties. It deliberately abolished them.

Jefferson Davis, Stonewall Jackson, Nathan Bedford Forrest, and Robert E. Lee were all Democrats, and Confederates.

Once again --- the Confederacy had no political parties. It had deliberately abolished them.

That means no Confederates had political parties. Is that too complex?

What does the fact that a bunch of Democrats founded the Confederacy, change somehow just because they chose the Confederacy first?

You clearly have a small mind, and severe OCD to overcompensate for that fact.

Western Europeans tisk, tisk

Apparently it was indeed too complex.

For the third time, the Confederacy had no political parties. Those that came to power had former parties before secession, primarily Democrats and Whigs. Before the War Jeff Davis had been a Democrat; his VP Stephens had been a Whig. There wasn't a large majority for either. Had the Confederacy survived it's plausible that parties might have formed but ------ it didn't.

Furthermore in the election of 1860 directly leading up to the War, the South -- what would soon become the Confederacy --- shut out the Democratic candidate giving him the same number of electoral votes it gave Lincoln: zero. And after his defeat Douglas went on a speaking tour on Lincoln's behalf to try to preserve the union. That didn't hold off South Carolina (the state that had trashed the Democratic convention and forced it to move) and the shit hit the fan.

And as mentioned above, Lincoln appointed Democrat Andrew Johnson as his military governor in Tennessee, and then took him for a running mate in 1864 as the "National Union Party".

Is THAT too complex? Because I can ramp it up.

 

[bodecea]

The official policy of the Confederacy was.....we do not arm negroes

I thought the official Democrat policy was... We do not want to arm Negroes, either.

It was in the South after the war.

Democrats have always been against giving guns to Negroes.

View attachment 209945

You mean like here?

Black men exercising their second amendment rights

And the governor of California pushed thru a law making open carry illegal in California.

 

[rightwinger]

Why would Confederates arm slaves?

1. After John Brown and Nat Turner they were deathly afraid of slave rebellions. They had laws against arming slaves

2 Arming slaves and making them soldiers gives them legitimacy as humans

Isn't that kind of the same premises the Democrats have had for their anti-gun sentiments for 100's of years?

No idea what you are talking about

Why do Democrats pick disarming people through out history in this nation, first with Black slaves, and now the masses?

There are 300 million guns in private hands
You have no idea what you are babbling about

 

[Biff_Poindexter]

Makes me wonder if they at least concede that Nazi Germany was the side that should have lost

No one won WW2, really.

I'd say Soviets had, but they lost an enormous amount of get this "White people" from WW2.

Yes, someone won WW2

but apparently, you are more willing to deny victory to WW2 veterans who actually fought to liberate people than you are willing to accept the defeat of people who were fighting to maintain slavery

Says a lot about you

I don't support Confederates, or Nazis, where would you get an idea like that from?

By the fact you keep twisting yourself into knots to try to deny history

You would be one to claim that the confederate statues were not put up to foster an environment of white supremacy -- because for some reason you have this need to defend racists --- then at the same time, you go out of your way to say how the Democrats started the confederacy ---- my response to that is ....And????

The Los Angeles Lakers first started in Minneapolis --- but ain't no championship flags flying in Minneapolis -- in other words, shit has changed -- same with white racists and political parties, shit has changed --- now its the Republicans flying those Confederate flags

 

[rightwinger]

I thought the official Democrat policy was... We do not want to arm Negroes, either.

It was in the South after the war.

Democrats have always been against giving guns to Negroes.

View attachment 209945

You mean like here?

Black men exercising their second amendment rights

And the governor of California pushed thru a law making open carry illegal in California.

Reagan also supported the Brady Bill

 

[bodecea]

The official policy of the Confederacy was.....we do not arm negroes

I thought the official Democrat policy was... We do not want to arm Negroes, either.

It was in the South after the war.

Democrats have always been against giving guns to Negroes.

The Confederacy had no political parties. It deliberately abolished them.

Jefferson Davis, Stonewall Jackson, Nathan Bedford Forrest, and Robert E. Lee were all Democrats, and Confederates.

They gave up being Democrats in 1860....but joined the party again after the war because the Republicans were the part of Reconstruction.......Longstreet joined the Republicans and was labeled a scalliwag for it.

 

[Asclepias]

Why would Confederates arm slaves?

1. After John Brown and Nat Turner they were deathly afraid of slave rebellions. They had laws against arming slaves

2 Arming slaves and making them soldiers gives them legitimacy as humans

Isn't that kind of the same premises the Democrats have had for their anti-gun sentiments for 100's of years?

No idea what you are talking about

Why do Democrats pick disarming people through out history in this nation, first with Black slaves, and now the masses?

There are 300 million guns in private hands
You have no idea what you are babbling about

Pretty soon one of them will claim the NRA was founded to protect Black gun owners.

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

Democrats have always been against giving guns to Negroes.

The Confederacy had no political parties. It deliberately abolished them.

Jefferson Davis, Stonewall Jackson, Nathan Bedford Forrest, and Robert E. Lee were all Democrats, and Confederates.

Once again --- the Confederacy had no political parties. It had deliberately abolished them.

That means no Confederates had political parties. Is that too complex?

What does the fact that a bunch of Democrats founded the Confederacy, change somehow just because they chose the Confederacy first?

You clearly have a small mind, and severe OCD to overcompensate for that fact.

Western Europeans tisk, tisk

Apparently it was indeed too complex.

For the third time, the Confederacy had no political parties. Those that came to power had former parties before secession, primarily Democrats and Whigs. Before the War Jeff Davis had been a Democrat; his VP Stephens had been a Whig. There wasn't a large majority for either. Had the Confederacy survived it's plausible that parties might have formed but ------ it didn't.

Furthermore in the election of 1860 directly leading up to the War, the South -- what would soon become the Confederacy --- shut out the Democratic candidate giving him the same number of electoral votes it gave Lincoln: zero. And after his defeat Douglas went on a speaking tour on Lincoln's behalf to try to preserve the union. That didn't hold off South Carolina (the state that had trashed the Democratic convention and forced it to move) and the shit hit the fan.

And as mentioned above, Lincoln appointed Democrat Andrew Johnson as his military governor in Tennessee, and then took him for a running mate in 1864 as the "National Union Party".
Is THAT too complex? Because I can ramp it up.

Democrat Confederate Jefferson Davis founded the Confederacy.

What's there not to get?

So, what's all the OCD Chimp spasms about?

You're Western European scum, and like typical Western Europeans you have a small mind, and severe OCD issues to overcompensate for that fact.

 

[Pogo]

Democrats have always been against giving guns to Negroes.

The Confederacy had no political parties. It deliberately abolished them.

Jefferson Davis, Stonewall Jackson, Nathan Bedford Forrest, and Robert E. Lee were all Democrats, and Confederates.

Once again --- the Confederacy had no political parties. It had deliberately abolished them.

That means no Confederates had political parties. Is that too complex?

What does the fact that a bunch of Democrats founded the Confederacy, change somehow just because they chose the Confederacy first?

You clearly have a small mind, and severe OCD to overcompensate for that fact.

Western Europeans tisk, tisk

There were no parties in the confederacy. So if they chose the confederacy first they gave up their democrat status.

In fact they had already kicked the Democrats out, the summer before.

 

[Pogo]

The Confederacy had no political parties. It deliberately abolished them.

Jefferson Davis, Stonewall Jackson, Nathan Bedford Forrest, and Robert E. Lee were all Democrats, and Confederates.

Once again --- the Confederacy had no political parties. It had deliberately abolished them.

That means no Confederates had political parties. Is that too complex?

What does the fact that a bunch of Democrats founded the Confederacy, change somehow just because they chose the Confederacy first?

You clearly have a small mind, and severe OCD to overcompensate for that fact.

Western Europeans tisk, tisk

Apparently it was indeed too complex.

For the third time, the Confederacy had no political parties. Those that came to power had former parties before secession, primarily Democrats and Whigs. Before the War Jeff Davis had been a Democrat; his VP Stephens had been a Whig. There wasn't a large majority for either. Had the Confederacy survived it's plausible that parties might have formed but ------ it didn't.

Furthermore in the election of 1860 directly leading up to the War, the South -- what would soon become the Confederacy --- shut out the Democratic candidate giving him the same number of electoral votes it gave Lincoln: zero. And after his defeat Douglas went on a speaking tour on Lincoln's behalf to try to preserve the union. That didn't hold off South Carolina (the state that had trashed the Democratic convention and forced it to move) and the shit hit the fan.

And as mentioned above, Lincoln appointed Democrat Andrew Johnson as his military governor in Tennessee, and then took him for a running mate in 1864 as the "National Union Party".
Is THAT too complex? Because I can ramp it up.

Democrat Confederate Jefferson Davis founded the Confederacy.

What's there not to get?

So, what's all the OCD Chimp spasms about?

You're Western European scum, and like typical Western Europeans you have a small mind, and severe OCD issues to overcompensate for that fact.

Look I can't help it that you're so pigheaded you can't bear that you've been proven wrong on a message board. That ain't my problem -- it's yours.

And no, Jeff Davis didn't "found the Confederacy".

 

[Marion Morrison]

Democrats have always been against giving guns to Negroes.

The Confederacy had no political parties. It deliberately abolished them.

Jefferson Davis, Stonewall Jackson, Nathan Bedford Forrest, and Robert E. Lee were all Democrats, and Confederates.

Once again --- the Confederacy had no political parties. It had deliberately abolished them.

That means no Confederates had political parties. Is that too complex?

What does the fact that a bunch of Democrats founded the Confederacy, change somehow just because they chose the Confederacy first?

You clearly have a small mind, and severe OCD to overcompensate for that fact.

Western Europeans tisk, tisk

Apparently it was indeed too complex.

For the third time, the Confederacy had no political parties. Those that came to power had former parties before secession, primarily Democrats and Whigs. Before the War Jeff Davis had been a Democrat; his VP Stephens had been a Whig. There wasn't a large majority for either. Had the Confederacy survived it's plausible that parties might have formed but ------ it didn't.

Furthermore in the election of 1860 directly leading up to the War, the South -- what would soon become the Confederacy --- shut out the Democratic candidate giving him the same number of electoral votes it gave Lincoln: zero. And after his defeat Douglas went on a speaking tour on Lincoln's behalf to try to preserve the union. That didn't hold off South Carolina (the state that had trashed the Democratic convention and forced it to move) and the shit hit the fan.

And as mentioned above, Lincoln appointed Democrat Andrew Johnson as his military governor in Tennessee, and then took him for a running mate in 1864 as the "National Union Party".

Is THAT too complex? Because I can ramp it up.

You mean you can chimp it up, chump.

 

[Asclepias]

The Confederacy had no political parties. It deliberately abolished them.

Jefferson Davis, Stonewall Jackson, Nathan Bedford Forrest, and Robert E. Lee were all Democrats, and Confederates.

Once again --- the Confederacy had no political parties. It had deliberately abolished them.

That means no Confederates had political parties. Is that too complex?

What does the fact that a bunch of Democrats founded the Confederacy, change somehow just because they chose the Confederacy first?

You clearly have a small mind, and severe OCD to overcompensate for that fact.

Western Europeans tisk, tisk

Apparently it was indeed too complex.

For the third time, the Confederacy had no political parties. Those that came to power had former parties before secession, primarily Democrats and Whigs. Before the War Jeff Davis had been a Democrat; his VP Stephens had been a Whig. There wasn't a large majority for either. Had the Confederacy survived it's plausible that parties might have formed but ------ it didn't.

Furthermore in the election of 1860 directly leading up to the War, the South -- what would soon become the Confederacy --- shut out the Democratic candidate giving him the same number of electoral votes it gave Lincoln: zero. And after his defeat Douglas went on a speaking tour on Lincoln's behalf to try to preserve the union. That didn't hold off South Carolina (the state that had trashed the Democratic convention and forced it to move) and the shit hit the fan.

And as mentioned above, Lincoln appointed Democrat Andrew Johnson as his military governor in Tennessee, and then took him for a running mate in 1864 as the "National Union Party".
Is THAT too complex? Because I can ramp it up.

Democrat Confederate Jefferson Davis founded the Confederacy.

What's there not to get?

So, what's all the OCD Chimp spasms about?

You're Western European scum, and like typical Western Europeans you have a small mind, and severe OCD issues to overcompensate for that fact.

Whats there not to get? We dont get why you keep saying dems founded the confederacy when there were no dems in the confederacy.

 

[Marion Morrison]

It was in the South after the war.

Democrats have always been against giving guns to Negroes.

View attachment 209945

You mean like here?

Black men exercising their second amendment rights

And the governor of California pushed thru a law making open carry illegal in California.

Reagan also supported the Brady Bill

Reagan was bedridden and barely coherent when the Brady Bill was passed.

I think H.W. set all that up, to be honest.

 

[rightwinger]

The Confederacy had no political parties. It deliberately abolished them.

Jefferson Davis, Stonewall Jackson, Nathan Bedford Forrest, and Robert E. Lee were all Democrats, and Confederates.

Once again --- the Confederacy had no political parties. It had deliberately abolished them.

That means no Confederates had political parties. Is that too complex?

What does the fact that a bunch of Democrats founded the Confederacy, change somehow just because they chose the Confederacy first?

You clearly have a small mind, and severe OCD to overcompensate for that fact.

Western Europeans tisk, tisk

Apparently it was indeed too complex.

For the third time, the Confederacy had no political parties. Those that came to power had former parties before secession, primarily Democrats and Whigs. Before the War Jeff Davis had been a Democrat; his VP Stephens had been a Whig. There wasn't a large majority for either. Had the Confederacy survived it's plausible that parties might have formed but ------ it didn't.

Furthermore in the election of 1860 directly leading up to the War, the South -- what would soon become the Confederacy --- shut out the Democratic candidate giving him the same number of electoral votes it gave Lincoln: zero. And after his defeat Douglas went on a speaking tour on Lincoln's behalf to try to preserve the union. That didn't hold off South Carolina (the state that had trashed the Democratic convention and forced it to move) and the shit hit the fan.

And as mentioned above, Lincoln appointed Democrat Andrew Johnson as his military governor in Tennessee, and then took him for a running mate in 1864 as the "National Union Party".
Is THAT too complex? Because I can ramp it up.

Democrat Confederate Jefferson Davis founded the Confederacy.

What's there not to get?

So, what's all the OCD Chimp spasms about?

You're Western European scum, and like typical Western Europeans you have a small mind, and severe OCD issues to overcompensate for that fact.

The Democratic Party was a Party in the United States
Jeff Davis resigned from the party when he resigned his Senate seat

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

Jefferson Davis, Stonewall Jackson, Nathan Bedford Forrest, and Robert E. Lee were all Democrats, and Confederates.

Once again --- the Confederacy had no political parties. It had deliberately abolished them.

That means no Confederates had political parties. Is that too complex?

What does the fact that a bunch of Democrats founded the Confederacy, change somehow just because they chose the Confederacy first?

You clearly have a small mind, and severe OCD to overcompensate for that fact.

Western Europeans tisk, tisk

Apparently it was indeed too complex.

For the third time, the Confederacy had no political parties. Those that came to power had former parties before secession, primarily Democrats and Whigs. Before the War Jeff Davis had been a Democrat; his VP Stephens had been a Whig. There wasn't a large majority for either. Had the Confederacy survived it's plausible that parties might have formed but ------ it didn't.

Furthermore in the election of 1860 directly leading up to the War, the South -- what would soon become the Confederacy --- shut out the Democratic candidate giving him the same number of electoral votes it gave Lincoln: zero. And after his defeat Douglas went on a speaking tour on Lincoln's behalf to try to preserve the union. That didn't hold off South Carolina (the state that had trashed the Democratic convention and forced it to move) and the shit hit the fan.

And as mentioned above, Lincoln appointed Democrat Andrew Johnson as his military governor in Tennessee, and then took him for a running mate in 1864 as the "National Union Party".
Is THAT too complex? Because I can ramp it up.

Democrat Confederate Jefferson Davis founded the Confederacy.

What's there not to get?

So, what's all the OCD Chimp spasms about?

You're Western European scum, and like typical Western Europeans you have a small mind, and severe OCD issues to overcompensate for that fact.

Look I can't help it that you're so pigheaded you can't bear that you've been proven wrong on a message board. That ain't my problem -- it's yours.

And no, Jeff Davis didn't "found the Confederacy".

If Jefferson Davis was a Democrat, and a Confederate, therefor nothing is wrong about what I said what-so-ever.

You're a kook, a retard, and OCD nitpicker.

 

[rightwinger]

Democrats have always been against giving guns to Negroes.

View attachment 209945

You mean like here?

Black men exercising their second amendment rights

And the governor of California pushed thru a law making open carry illegal in California.

Reagan also supported the Brady Bill

Reagan was bedridden and barely coherent when the Brady Bill was passed.

I think H.W. set all that up, to be honest.

He supported the bill long before he announced he had Alzheimer’s

 

[Biff_Poindexter]

The Confederacy had no political parties. It deliberately abolished them.

Jefferson Davis, Stonewall Jackson, Nathan Bedford Forrest, and Robert E. Lee were all Democrats, and Confederates.

Once again --- the Confederacy had no political parties. It had deliberately abolished them.

That means no Confederates had political parties. Is that too complex?

What does the fact that a bunch of Democrats founded the Confederacy, change somehow just because they chose the Confederacy first?

You clearly have a small mind, and severe OCD to overcompensate for that fact.

Western Europeans tisk, tisk

Apparently it was indeed too complex.

For the third time, the Confederacy had no political parties. Those that came to power had former parties before secession, primarily Democrats and Whigs. Before the War Jeff Davis had been a Democrat; his VP Stephens had been a Whig. There wasn't a large majority for either. Had the Confederacy survived it's plausible that parties might have formed but ------ it didn't.

Furthermore in the election of 1860 directly leading up to the War, the South -- what would soon become the Confederacy --- shut out the Democratic candidate giving him the same number of electoral votes it gave Lincoln: zero. And after his defeat Douglas went on a speaking tour on Lincoln's behalf to try to preserve the union. That didn't hold off South Carolina (the state that had trashed the Democratic convention
and forced it to move) and the shit hit the fan.

And as mentioned above, Lincoln appointed Democrat Andrew Johnson as his military governor in Tennessee, and then took him for a running mate in 1864 as the "National Union Party".
Is THAT too complex? Because I can ramp it up.

Democrat Confederate Jefferson Davis founded the Confederacy.

What's there not to get?

So, what's all the OCD Chimp spasms about?

You're Western European scum, and like typical Western Europeans you have a small mind, and severe OCD issues to overcompensate for that fact.

The United States is Western Europe?

No wonder your comments make no sense -- you are under the impression we are all Western Europeans.....

Here is a globe to help you out

 

[Asclepias]

Once again --- the Confederacy had no political parties. It had deliberately abolished them.

That means no Confederates had political parties. Is that too complex?

What does the fact that a bunch of Democrats founded the Confederacy, change somehow just because they chose the Confederacy first?

You clearly have a small mind, and severe OCD to overcompensate for that fact.

Western Europeans tisk, tisk

Apparently it was indeed too complex.

For the third time, the Confederacy had no political parties. Those that came to power had former parties before secession, primarily Democrats and Whigs. Before the War Jeff Davis had been a Democrat; his VP Stephens had been a Whig. There wasn't a large majority for either. Had the Confederacy survived it's plausible that parties might have formed but ------ it didn't.

Furthermore in the election of 1860 directly leading up to the War, the South -- what would soon become the Confederacy --- shut out the Democratic candidate giving him the same number of electoral votes it gave Lincoln: zero. And after his defeat Douglas went on a speaking tour on Lincoln's behalf to try to preserve the union. That didn't hold off South Carolina (the state that had trashed the Democratic convention and forced it to move) and the shit hit the fan.

And as mentioned above, Lincoln appointed Democrat Andrew Johnson as his military governor in Tennessee, and then took him for a running mate in 1864 as the "National Union Party".
Is THAT too complex? Because I can ramp it up.

Democrat Confederate Jefferson Davis founded the Confederacy.

What's there not to get?

So, what's all the OCD Chimp spasms about?

You're Western European scum, and like typical Western Europeans you have a small mind, and severe OCD issues to overcompensate for that fact.

Look I can't help it that you're so pigheaded you can't bear that you've been proven wrong on a message board. That ain't my problem -- it's yours.

And no, Jeff Davis didn't "found the Confederacy".

If Jefferson Davis was a Democrat, and a Confederate, therefor nothing is wrong about what I said what-so-ever.

You're a kook, a retard, and OCD nitpicker.

Your fautly logic doesn't mention he could not have possibly been both at the same time. Therefore you claim is false.

 

[Pogo]

Once again --- the Confederacy had no political parties. It had deliberately abolished them.

That means no Confederates had political parties. Is that too complex?

What does the fact that a bunch of Democrats founded the Confederacy, change somehow just because they chose the Confederacy first?

You clearly have a small mind, and severe OCD to overcompensate for that fact.

Western Europeans tisk, tisk

Apparently it was indeed too complex.

For the third time, the Confederacy had no political parties. Those that came to power had former parties before secession, primarily Democrats and Whigs. Before the War Jeff Davis had been a Democrat; his VP Stephens had been a Whig. There wasn't a large majority for either. Had the Confederacy survived it's plausible that parties might have formed but ------ it didn't.

Furthermore in the election of 1860 directly leading up to the War, the South -- what would soon become the Confederacy --- shut out the Democratic candidate giving him the same number of electoral votes it gave Lincoln: zero. And after his defeat Douglas went on a speaking tour on Lincoln's behalf to try to preserve the union. That didn't hold off South Carolina (the state that had trashed the Democratic convention and forced it to move) and the shit hit the fan.

And as mentioned above, Lincoln appointed Democrat Andrew Johnson as his military governor in Tennessee, and then took him for a running mate in 1864 as the "National Union Party".
Is THAT too complex? Because I can ramp it up.

Democrat Confederate Jefferson Davis founded the Confederacy.

What's there not to get?

So, what's all the OCD Chimp spasms about?

You're Western European scum, and like typical Western Europeans you have a small mind, and severe OCD issues to overcompensate for that fact.

Look I can't help it that you're so pigheaded you can't bear that you've been proven wrong on a message board. That ain't my problem -- it's yours.

And no, Jeff Davis didn't "found the Confederacy".

If Jefferson Davis was a Democrat, and a Confederate, therefor nothing is wrong about what I said what-so-ever.

You're a kook, a retard, and OCD nitpicker.

Oh fer fuxsake GROW UP. You keep trotting out bullshit, keep getting called on it, and then want to piss and moan that it doesn't matter. If it doesn't matter then don't bring it in here in the first place because it WILL get shot down.

Understand?

The Confederacy was founded by delegates from Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia, South Carolina and Florida, meeting in Montgomery, February 1861. Not by "Jefferson Davis".