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For all of you who don't want the terrorists(ACCUSED) to be tried in US courts AND you didn't want them to be called ENEMY COMBATANTS, which would allow them protections under the Geneva conventions, then just WTF DO you want? Do you want to just imprison people FOREVER on the SUSPITION that they are terrorists? Just a little factoid here for ya. After the first WTC bombing we ARRESTED, TRIED, and CONVICTED those responsible in US COURTS!!!
Are you aware that's still going on, and is going to continue going on, with selected subjects? Are you aware that Eric Holder said that if KSM is acquitted, we will still be holding him indefinitely?Do you understand how completely UN-American it is to imprison people with NO charges NO right to hear the charges against them, no right to an attorney, no right to see EVIDENCE against them, and be held INDEFINATELY for as long as we WANT to keep them.
For all of you who don't want the terrorists(ACCUSED) to be tried in US courts AND you didn't want them to be called ENEMY COMBATANTS, which would allow them protections under the Geneva conventions, then just WTF DO you want? Do you want to just imprison people FOREVER on the SUSPITION that they are terrorists? Just a little factoid here for ya. After the first WTC bombing we ARRESTED, TRIED, and CONVICTED those responsible in US COURTS!!!
Umm... those were people on American soil... the foreign non-military-combatants were not American Citizens, were not members of a national military, were not legal visitors to America, and were not on American soil
In short?The INSTANT that GWB claimed a WAR on terrorism then he ESCALATED them to military status. I mean I guess if Bush had trown pallets of uniforms out of C-130s then you may have a point that they should have been in uniform but since BUSH claimed war on an IDEAOLOGY rather than a COUNTRY then those who WE attacked have a right defend themselves. Do I agree with the tactics NO but neither did the British when we fought for Independence.
Are you aware that's still going on, and is going to continue going on, with selected subjects? Are you aware that Eric Holder said that if KSM is acquitted, we will still be holding him indefinitely?Do you understand how completely UN-American it is to imprison people with NO charges NO right to hear the charges against them, no right to an attorney, no right to see EVIDENCE against them, and be held INDEFINATELY for as long as we WANT to keep them.
The REAL question you should be asking yourself is, "Why?"
Why doesn't justice apply to all?
For all of you who don't want the terrorists(ACCUSED) to be tried in US courts AND you didn't want them to be called ENEMY COMBATANTS, which would allow them protections under the Geneva conventions, then just WTF DO you want? Do you want to just imprison people FOREVER on the SUSPITION that they are terrorists? Just a little factoid here for ya. After the first WTC bombing we ARRESTED, TRIED, and CONVICTED those responsible in US COURTS!!!
Umm... those were people on American soil... the foreign non-military-combatants were not American Citizens, were not members of a national military, were not legal visitors to America, and were not on American soil
The INSTANT that GWB claimed a WAR on terrorism then he ESCALATED them to military status. I mean I guess if Bush had trown pallets of uniforms out of C-130s then you may have a point that they should have been in uniform but since BUSH claimed war on an IDEAOLOGY rather than a COUNTRY then those who WE attacked have a right defend themselves. Do I agree with the tactics NO but neither did the British when we fought for Independence.
Are you aware that's still going on, and is going to continue going on, with selected subjects? Are you aware that Eric Holder said that if KSM is acquitted, we will still be holding him indefinitely?Do you understand how completely UN-American it is to imprison people with NO charges NO right to hear the charges against them, no right to an attorney, no right to see EVIDENCE against them, and be held INDEFINATELY for as long as we WANT to keep them.
The REAL question you should be asking yourself is, "Why?"
Why doesn't justice apply to all?
None of this is necessarily so. The only thing the defense will have discovery rights for, is what the Government intends to actually USE.the thing that bothers me about this whole soon to be circus of a trial is that we will necessarily be making public our intelligence gathering techniques and our intelligence agents will be publicly testifying thereby destroying any future of operating covertly and some of them will quite possibly have to go into witness protection to protect their families.
I mean, WHY, stupid ass, is all of this continuing? WHY will there still be detainees held indefinitely without trial? WHY has the Patriot Act been renewed and expanded?You mean WHY we sold out EVERY VALUE that makes America a country of FREEDOM and a BEACON to all the world? Do you mean WHY we sold ourselves out to become a country of rampant nationalism and a centralization of powers to the FED with the "PATRIOT" act? And yeah I know Obama voted to reauthorize the patriot act and I disagree with that vote INTENSLEY!Are you aware that's still going on, and is going to continue going on, with selected subjects? Are you aware that Eric Holder said that if KSM is acquitted, we will still be holding him indefinitely?Do you understand how completely UN-American it is to imprison people with NO charges NO right to hear the charges against them, no right to an attorney, no right to see EVIDENCE against them, and be held INDEFINATELY for as long as we WANT to keep them.
The REAL question you should be asking yourself is, "Why?"
Why doesn't justice apply to all?
Do you understand how completely UN-American it is to imprison people with NO charges NO right to hear the charges against them, no right to an attorney, no right to see EVIDENCE against them, and be held INDEFINATELY for as long as we WANT to keep them. Are any of you aware that there were over a hundered SUSPECTS released from GitMo under the BUSH admin? Golly we're sorry we abducted you, tortured you, and imprisoned you for a couple of years but you can go now.
Are you aware that's still going on, and is going to continue going on, with selected subjects? Are you aware that Eric Holder said that if KSM is acquitted, we will still be holding him indefinitely?Do you understand how completely UN-American it is to imprison people with NO charges NO right to hear the charges against them, no right to an attorney, no right to see EVIDENCE against them, and be held INDEFINATELY for as long as we WANT to keep them.
The REAL question you should be asking yourself is, "Why?"
Why doesn't justice apply to all?
We have our own political prisoners here.
Sirhan Sirhan is serving more time than other murderers because he shot a Kennedy. So why not hold a fucking murdering terrorist who btw admitted his culpability already.
the thing that bothers me about this whole soon to be circus of a trial is that we will necessarily be making public our intelligence gathering techniques and our intelligence agents will be publicly testifying thereby destroying any future of operating covertly and some of them will quite possibly have to go into witness protection to protect their families.
It's just a bad idea to give these enemy foreign nationals the same rights as an American citizen.
Let them be tries in a military court where they belong.
There ARE folks who subscribe to the school of thought that we shouldn't take any prisoners on the battlefield. Just KILL them all.Maybe we should just EXECUTE every SUSPECT that would take care of the problem right?
You should be asking, "WHY if this is really about our high ideals, does it only apply to the very few and not to ALL? WHY these guys and not the others?"You mean WHY we sold out EVERY VALUE that makes America a country of FREEDOM and a BEACON to all the world? Do you mean WHY we sold ourselves out to become a country of rampant nationalism and a centralization of powers to the FED with the "PATRIOT" act? And yeah I know Obama voted to reauthorize the patriot act and I disagree with that vote INTENSLEY!
None of this is necessarily so. The only thing the defense will have discovery rights for, is what the Government intends to actually USE.the thing that bothers me about this whole soon to be circus of a trial is that we will necessarily be making public our intelligence gathering techniques and our intelligence agents will be publicly testifying thereby destroying any future of operating covertly and some of them will quite possibly have to go into witness protection to protect their families.
We don't know what the Government intends to USE as evidence.
For all of you who don't want the terrorists(ACCUSED) to be tried in US courts AND you didn't want them to be called ENEMY COMBATANTS, which would allow them protections under the Geneva conventions, then just WTF DO you want? Do you want to just imprison people FOREVER on the SUSPITION that they are terrorists? Just a little factoid here for ya. After the first WTC bombing we ARRESTED, TRIED, and CONVICTED those responsible in US COURTS!!!
Are you aware that's still going on, and is going to continue going on, with selected subjects? Are you aware that Eric Holder said that if KSM is acquitted, we will still be holding him indefinitely?
The REAL question you should be asking yourself is, "Why?"
Why doesn't justice apply to all?
We have our own political prisoners here.
Sirhan Sirhan is serving more time than other murderers because he shot a Kennedy. So why not hold a fucking murdering terrorist who btw admitted his culpability already.
the thing that bothers me about this whole soon to be circus of a trial is that we will necessarily be making public our intelligence gathering techniques and our intelligence agents will be publicly testifying thereby destroying any future of operating covertly and some of them will quite possibly have to go into witness protection to protect their families.
It's just a bad idea to give these enemy foreign nationals the same rights as an American citizen.
Let them be tries in a military court where they belong.
Maybe we should just EXECUTE every SUSPECT that would take care of the problem right?
For all of you who don't want the terrorists(ACCUSED) to be tried in US courts AND you didn't want them to be called ENEMY COMBATANTS, which would allow them protections under the Geneva conventions, then just WTF DO you want? Do you want to just imprison people FOREVER on the SUSPITION that they are terrorists? Just a little factoid here for ya. After the first WTC bombing we ARRESTED, TRIED, and CONVICTED those responsible in US COURTS!!!
When they drop their weapons and come out, hands in air saying "no mas, por favor -- stop firing! I surrender!" shoot them anyway?For all of you who don't want the terrorists(ACCUSED) to be tried in US courts AND you didn't want them to be called ENEMY COMBATANTS, which would allow them protections under the Geneva conventions, then just WTF DO you want? Do you want to just imprison people FOREVER on the SUSPITION that they are terrorists? Just a little factoid here for ya. After the first WTC bombing we ARRESTED, TRIED, and CONVICTED those responsible in US COURTS!!!
1) Shoot to kill on the battlefield taking no prisoners
2) Military Tribunal as soon as any interrogations are done.
Easy Peasy, lemon sqeezy.
