Lawmakers DESTROY thousands of low education jobs for the poor

[kiwiman127]

The bigger impact on flat wages is lack of economic growth. When there is an excess supply of labor, wages suffer.

Our government has done far more to cause this flattening than any one business.

There isn't any economic growth because the consumer isn't spending.
Why isn't the consumer spending? Well with flat wages the working class has less and less expendable income. Considering 70% of our economy is driven by consumer spending, flat wages are killing our economy. Does government determine wages? NO!

The government's overreaching regulations and tax policies make U.S. labor for more expensive than just the wages. And ObamaCare isn't helping.

You have a very poor understanding of economics, bub.

Three quarters of econ in college and I have a poor understanding of economics? I want my money back!!!!

Most Companies Pay No Federal Income Tax
http://www.cbsnews.com/2100-201_162-4342535.html

And then some folks don't have a grasp of reality.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Cool.

I hope the mayor doesn't veto the measure.

Spoken like someone who lives in a bubble and doesn't have to deal with the consequences.

Selfish tunnel vision mentality

 

[ScreamingEagle]

Not really they have no more high skilled jobs than the US of A. We are still leaders in manufacturing in the world, we just do it more efficiently.

but they are catching up....and going for the more high tech jobs....

we could create and do even more jobs efficiently right here if we had less regulation strangulation, less taxes, and smarter schools.....capital has left the country because it makes more money elsewhere....heck we don't even have a space program anymore...

liberal boobs like the ones in DC can make all the stupid rules they want but it's not going to help them or America....

...but isn't that the goal of Obama and the Left anyway......?

higher tech, I don't think that you can get a higher tech job than what is in the US or Europe.
Smart schools. it not the schools that are the problem, it's the kids.
No space program, you like making statements that show how much you do not know. Just cause we don't have the murdering shuttles in use we have no space program? You better check again.

yeah great space program......NASA's new mission is to build ties to the Muslim world....

and we are bleeding high tech all over the place.....not only is our government being ripped off but most companies as well...

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

There isn't any economic growth because the consumer isn't spending.
Why isn't the consumer spending? Well with flat wages the working class has less and less expendable income. Considering 70% of our economy is driven by consumer spending, flat wages are killing our economy. Does government determine wages? NO!

Most Companies Pay No Federal Income Tax
Most Companies Pay No Federal Income Tax - CBS News

And then some folks don't have a grasp of reality.

The government's overreaching regulations and tax policies make U.S. labor for more expensive than just the wages. And ObamaCare isn't helping.

You have a very poor understanding of economics, bub.

Three quarter of econ in college and I have a poor understanding of economics? I want my money back!!!!

You're so lost. If flat wages are the problem are you suggesting that wages weren't flat before the crash and that they suddenly went flat?

Barney Frank had more to do with the crash than flat wages.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

but they are catching up....and going for the more high tech jobs....

we could create and do even more jobs efficiently right here if we had less regulation strangulation, less taxes, and smarter schools.....capital has left the country because it makes more money elsewhere....heck we don't even have a space program anymore...

liberal boobs like the ones in DC can make all the stupid rules they want but it's not going to help them or America....

...but isn't that the goal of Obama and the Left anyway......?

higher tech, I don't think that you can get a higher tech job than what is in the US or Europe.
Smart schools. it not the schools that are the problem, it's the kids.
No space program, you like making statements that show how much you do not know. Just cause we don't have the murdering shuttles in use we have no space program? You better check again.

yeah great space program......NASA's new mission is to build ties to the Muslim world....

and we are bleeding high tech all over the place.....not only is our government being ripped off but most companies as well...

You're talking to someone who just called the space shuttle murders.

I'm pretty confident that you're wasting your time.

 

[Edgetho]

There isn't any economic growth because the consumer isn't spending.
Why isn't the consumer spending? Well with flat wages the working class has less and less expendable income. Considering 70% of our economy is driven by consumer spending, flat wages are killing our economy. Does government determine wages? NO!

The government's overreaching regulations and tax policies make U.S. labor for more expensive than just the wages. And ObamaCare isn't helping.

You have a very poor understanding of economics, bub.

Three quarters of econ in college and I have a poor understanding of economics? I want my money back!!!!

Most Companies Pay No Federal Income Tax
Most Companies Pay No Federal Income Tax - CBS News

And then some folks don't have a grasp of reality.

I thought obama was gonna fix all that? No?

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Proof is provided of the stupidiry of liberal jobs policies and the libs focus on the business rather than the law. Thank god I work for myself and not one of these baboons

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

The government's overreaching regulations and tax policies make U.S. labor for more expensive than just the wages. And ObamaCare isn't helping.

You have a very poor understanding of economics, bub.

Three quarters of econ in college and I have a poor understanding of economics? I want my money back!!!!

Most Companies Pay No Federal Income Tax
Most Companies Pay No Federal Income Tax - CBS News

And then some folks don't have a grasp of reality.

I thought obama was gonna fix all that? No?

Ahahahaha that's some funny shit there. Obama is too busy passin out exemptions to all his new laws to bother fixing anything.

 

[Edgetho]

Somebody run into a Bus?

Here's an article for you from Bloomberg showing just how BAD the Stuttering Clusterfukk has been... Bad. As in REALLY bad on the 'Middle Class' (which is a misnomer anyway)

Obama Fails to Stem Middle-Class Slide He Blamed on Bush - Bloomberg

And here's something that most people don't know....

All that rhetoric about flat wages? It's bullshit.

Or rather, it was in 2007. Now, not so much. Since the Stuttering Clusterfukk took Office, it's real.

But in 2007? It was a lie. But hey! That's what dimocraps do -- They lie.



"Wages" versus "Compensation"

To illustrate, let's say a friend of yours came to you for some advice as to which job offer she should accept:

• Job offer 1: Wage is $20.00 per hour; no benefits.

• Job offer 2: Wage is $20.00 per hour; benefits are health insurance, plus a matching 401K retirement savings plan.

Assume all other aspects are equal. Given that the wages are identical, which job offer do you advise your friend to accept? Why?

Obviously, "compensation" is more than just wages alone. Compensation also includes the benefits. (In 2007, the average worker enjoys $41 in benefits on top of every $100 collected in wages.) So, that begs the question, Has workers' real compensation been stagnant since the year 2000?

Fortunately for us, the Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) can help us out. They've indexed real compensation (i.e., adjusted for CPI inflation) quarterly for the last 24 years, through Q4 2005, and published it on their data-rich website. Their index uses Q4 2005 as the base quarter for calculating the index. Here's how the BLS describes their compensation data: "The Employer Costs for Employee Compensation product is a quarterly survey that shows the employers' average hourly cost for total compensation and its components."

I charted the BLS numbers, and calculated the change in real compensation for the six years from Q4 1999 to Q4 2005. A pleasant surprise: real compensation per hour has been the opposite of "stagnant"; in fact, it grew by 6.7% in the 2000-2005 interval. That's better growth than any six-year period in the last twenty years, including 1995-2000.

Edge:
If you want to read more on it, the link is below. I don't recommend it to libtards.

He uses big words

http://www.optimist123.com/optimist/2007/11/lets-kill-the-s.html

 

[Contumacious]

I am starting to think rich people are greedy ******* scumbags.

The primary motivation for starting a business or leading one..is greed.

.

The primary motivation for starting a welfare/warfare state is greed.

You are ******* demagogue moron who knows that in any given society PARASITES will outnumber PRODUCERS. So by catering to the parasites the welfare/warfare state politicians acquire POWER.

And so it ******* goes.

.

 

[ClosedCaption]

The government's overreaching regulations and tax policies make U.S. labor for more expensive than just the wages. And ObamaCare isn't helping.

You have a very poor understanding of economics, bub.

Three quarters of econ in college and I have a poor understanding of economics? I want my money back!!!!

Most Companies Pay No Federal Income Tax
Most Companies Pay No Federal Income Tax - CBS News

And then some folks don't have a grasp of reality.

I thought obama was gonna fix all that? No?

You just thought wrong, that's all

 

[kiwiman127]

The government's overreaching regulations and tax policies make U.S. labor for more expensive than just the wages. And ObamaCare isn't helping.

You have a very poor understanding of economics, bub.

Three quarters of econ in college and I have a poor understanding of economics? I want my money back!!!!

Most Companies Pay No Federal Income Tax
Most Companies Pay No Federal Income Tax - CBS News

And then some folks don't have a grasp of reality.

I thought obama was gonna fix all that? No?

I guess not!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Oddball]

So you think its OK for ceo's to rake in millions while MILLIONS of their employees need food stamps and medicaid to live? Nice...I see why people think libertarians suck. This isn't capitalism its crony capitalism and greed at its best.Its done and stays that way because the government is in their back pocket...fascism at its best...large companies and government run this country...to hell with the poor.

Apparently, you're good with communistic economic central planning to change this situation.

Like I said, a really shit excuse for a *claimed* anarcho-capitalist.

Thanks for not answering the question...oh and maybe you are right I am an anarchist but I think I found something closer to me...Bleeding-heart libertarianism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Nah....You're just a statist trying in vain to pass yourself off as an anarcho-capitalist.

And you're no atheist, either....You worship the state.

 

[The2ndAmendment]

Stop paying people slave wages and this wouldn't be a problem...not like Wal Mart is hurting for money that they can't pay their employees a livable wage. My wife worked at 2 and it sucked.

If we simply returned to Gold and Silver currency there would be no need for any of these minimum wage laws, because the general market could only support the MEDIAN savings and income (of gold/silver) of the general population. Everything would correct itself immediately without any intervention from the Big Gov.

 

[DigitalDrifter]

They do. They drive them out of business. Shit made in China brought here and sold cheap as hell small businesses can't keep up.

People will have the choice to shop at box store or mom and pop. You like choice don't you ?

Indeed I do.. I love shopping at mom and pop stores but I absolutely hate when these ******* wal marts come in and make the mom and pop stores jack their prices up just to compete...

So you think its OK for ceo's to rake in millions while MILLIONS of their employees need food stamps and medicaid to live? Nice...I see why people think libertarians suck. This isn't capitalism its crony capitalism and greed at its best.Its done and stays that way because the government is in their back pocket...fascism at its best...large companies and government run this country...to hell with the poor.

Apparently, you're good with communistic economic central planning to change this situation.

Like I said, a really shit excuse for a *claimed* anarcho-capitalist.

Thanks for not answering the question...oh and maybe you are right I am an anarchist but I think I found something closer to me...Bleeding-heart libertarianism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

You may hate it, but this is how the marketplace works. I have a feeling that you actually are not in favor of choice, you are in favor of laws that would prevent WalMart from setting up shop.

 

[Edgetho]

Stop paying people slave wages and this wouldn't be a problem...not like Wal Mart is hurting for money that they can't pay their employees a livable wage. My wife worked at 2 and it sucked.

Stop with CPUSA bullshit. You're only hurting yourself with that stupidity.

My first job in Florida was helping to put a tin roof on a resort on Captiva Island for $2.50 an hour.

My wife worked at Eckerds Drug Store in the Cosmetics department and averaged about $60 a week take home.

We worked, we moved up, she found a job as a Construction Secretary and did okay in that field. I went into something else and eventually worked my way into starting my own business -- Mostly. Sort of. Complicated and personal.

I'm just saying, instead of sitting around bitching about what a vicitm you are, get off your ass and do something.

As to working at WalMart for low wages?

It's better than No Wages.

And it is NOT for everybody. I couldn't do it. But a lot of people can, and do. And it helps supplement the household income.

For a lot of people, it's their House payment.

 

[National Socialist]

Apparently, you're good with communistic economic central planning to change this situation.

Like I said, a really shit excuse for a *claimed* anarcho-capitalist.

Thanks for not answering the question...oh and maybe you are right I am an anarchist but I think I found something closer to me...Bleeding-heart libertarianism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Nah....You're just a statist trying in vain to pass yourself off as an anarcho-capitalist.

And you're no atheist, either....You worship the state.

Wrong but whatever...you enjoy seeing poor people used as slaves and pawns.

People will have the choice to shop at box store or mom and pop. You like choice don't you ?

Indeed I do.. I love shopping at mom and pop stores but I absolutely hate when these ******* wal marts come in and make the mom and pop stores jack their prices up just to compete...

Apparently, you're good with communistic economic central planning to change this situation.

Like I said, a really shit excuse for a *claimed* anarcho-capitalist.

Thanks for not answering the question...oh and maybe you are right I am an anarchist but I think I found something closer to me...Bleeding-heart libertarianism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

You may hate it, but this is how the marketplace works. I have a feeling that you actually are not in favor of choice, you are in favor of laws that would prevent WalMart from setting up shop.

I don't like Wal Mart because it kills mom and pop stores but no not in favor of laws banning them just want them to pay decent wages..when 6 of your owners are worth 93 BILLION they can afford a decent ******* wage.

 

[Edgetho]

Thanks for not answering the question...oh and maybe you are right I am an anarchist but I think I found something closer to me...Bleeding-heart libertarianism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Nah....You're just a statist trying in vain to pass yourself off as an anarcho-capitalist.

And you're no atheist, either....You worship the state.

Wrong but whatever...you enjoy seeing poor people used as slaves and pawns.

Indeed I do.. I love shopping at mom and pop stores but I absolutely hate when these ******* wal marts come in and make the mom and pop stores jack their prices up just to compete...

Thanks for not answering the question...oh and maybe you are right I am an anarchist but I think I found something closer to me...Bleeding-heart libertarianism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

You may hate it, but this is how the marketplace works. I have a feeling that you actually are not in favor of choice, you are in favor of laws that would prevent WalMart from setting up shop.

I don't like Wal Mart because it kills mom and pop stores but no not in favor of laws banning them just want them to pay decent wages..when 6 of your owners are worth 93 BILLION they can afford a decent ******* wage.

When guys like you start complaining about Movie Stars getting $20 Million for one movie and $75,000,000 (Seventy-Five Million Dollars) in one year, when you start bitching about Oprah making $300,000,000 (Three Hundred Million Dollars) in one year, when you start wailing and gnashing your teeth about ManBearPig becoming STINKING ******* RICH on the Global Warming Hoax, when people like you start bitching about Professional Athletes making TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS in ONE YEAR, when people like wonder out loud how Bill the rapist Clinton went into the White House poor as a Church Mouse but left a Mulit-Millionaire, when you.....

Just shut up.

 

[National Socialist]

They all suck...they don't deserve it. The one entity I hate worse than government is rich snob *****.My wife works for a couple who own a bunch of businesses here they have a multi million jet to take shopping trips all over the world...my wife gets 30 hours a week and 8$ an hour as a ******* CHEF! 2nd in ******* charge and this is the shit she gets...

 

[Edgetho]

They all suck...they don't deserve it. The one entity I hate worse than government is rich snob *****.My wife works for a couple who own a bunch of businesses here they have a multi million jet to take shopping trips all over the world...my wife gets 30 hours a week and 8$ an hour as a ******* CHEF! 2nd in ******* charge and this is the shit she gets...

Then do something about it. Stop sniveling and do something about it.

You can rant and rave and piss and moan and vote communist all you want, but do you think for one GODDAMNED minute that a piece of shit like barack hussein obama gives one second of thought to people like you while he's off vacationing in Hawaii, Africa or setting a record for rounds of golf played while he's spending MILLIONS of dollars on Air Force One to go to a meeting of other socialist pigs that have their own people in an arm-lock?

Don't get mad, use your head. THINK!

Maybe the economy is too weak now for anything good to come your, or your wife's way.

But remember. "Luck is when opportunity meets preparedness."

Time for you to get 'lucky'.

You're only hurting yourself with all the class envy bullshit. Believe it.