Late 1960s and Early 1970s All Over Again

[Jay Zepher]

This is so simple.

Protesting is fine. That’s every American’s first amendment right. But physically attacking federal agents – whether punching, shoving, throwing rocks at them – is a crime.

Also, destroying public property is a crime. It does not matter if it’s one person who does it or a hundred or a thousand! It is still a crime, and these violent protesters all need to face trial, prosecution, sentencing and jail time like any other criminal, especially any other criminal accused of violent crimes which is what these protests in LA are devolving into.

We have been through all this before in the 1960s and early seventies and the radicals then did not overthrow America: the constitution held intact, nor did law and order fade away. People did indeed feel like the system was coming to a violent end at the time, but it did not. The country survived and became a better nation.

Of course, protesting in the aftermath of George Floyd was heinously momentous.

But recent protesters as well today’s have nothing on the 60s and early 70s protesters.

Back then, there were actual domestic leftist terrorist groups like the Weather Underground, the Black Liberation Army, and the Symbionese Liberation Army, all involved in various violent acts that included bombing US government buildings, murder, abduction, robberies, and physically assaulting and clashing with the police.

By the way: these are all crimes. They were back then and still are now. Law and order still exist. If one day it should not, then, yes, America could indeed come to an end and you would live in a land (not a nation) of total anarchy and chaos. Not likely to happen, but who knows?

And oh, that might be what these modern-day protesters want. There are career protesters who go to these things from other parts of the US. That’s an upgrade from 60s style protesting.

Anyway, however bad it all seems, it is still déjà vu to a time when protesters made noise, caused havoc, but posed no serious threat to democracy. The real threat, however, is in the lawmakers in California like Newsom and Bass and leaders in other like-minded states that encourage these protests. They have the potential to end the chaos, but they are encouraging it for a misguided cause.

So, here we go again.

 

[Mack The Finger]

This is so simple.

Protesting is fine. That’s every American’s first amendment right. But physically attacking federal agents – whether punching, shoving, throwing rocks at them – is a crime.

GREAT POST !

1,500 J-6 rioters were arrested and the FEDs still have not caught the DC Bomber.

What does that tell you ?

 

[Dekster]

This is so simple.

Protesting is fine. That’s every American’s first amendment right. But physically attacking federal agents – whether punching, shoving, throwing rocks at them – is a crime.

Also, destroying public property is a crime. It does not matter if it’s one person who does it or a hundred or a thousand! It is still a crime, and these violent protesters all need to face trial, prosecution, sentencing and jail time like any other criminal, especially any other criminal accused of violent crimes which is what these protests in LA are devolving into.

We have been through all this before in the 1960s and early seventies and the radicals then did not overthrow America: the constitution held intact, nor did law and order fade away. People did indeed feel like the system was coming to a violent end at the time, but it did not. The country survived and became a better nation.

Of course, protesting in the aftermath of George Floyd was heinously momentous.

But recent protesters as well today’s have nothing on the 60s and early 70s protesters.

Back then, there were actual domestic leftist terrorist groups like the Weather Underground, the Black Liberation Army, and the Symbionese Liberation Army, all involved in various violent acts that included bombing US government buildings, murder, abduction, robberies, and physically assaulting and clashing with the police.

By the way: these are all crimes. They were back then and still are now. Law and order still exist. If one day it should not, then, yes, America could indeed come to an end and you would live in a land (not a nation) of total anarchy and chaos. Not likely to happen, but who knows?

And oh, that might be what these modern-day protesters want. There are career protesters who go to these things from other parts of the US. That’s an upgrade from 60s style protesting.

Anyway, however bad it all seems, it is still déjà vu to a time when protesters made noise, caused havoc, but posed no serious threat to democracy. The real threat, however, is in the lawmakers in California like Newsom and Bass and leaders in other like-minded states that encourage these protests. They have the potential to end the chaos, but they are encouraging it for a misguided cause.

So, here we go again.

It is only a crime when the left does it. When the right does it, it is witch hunt worthy of pardons.

 

[pknopp]

The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of Patriots and tyrants.

Thomas Jefferson.

 

[JimH52]

This is so simple.

Protesting is fine. That’s every American’s first amendment right. But physically attacking federal agents – whether punching, shoving, throwing rocks at them – is a crime.

Also, destroying public property is a crime. It does not matter if it’s one person who does it or a hundred or a thousand! It is still a crime, and these violent protesters all need to face trial, prosecution, sentencing and jail time like any other criminal, especially any other criminal accused of violent crimes which is what these protests in LA are devolving into.

We have been through all this before in the 1960s and early seventies and the radicals then did not overthrow America: the constitution held intact, nor did law and order fade away. People did indeed feel like the system was coming to a violent end at the time, but it did not. The country survived and became a better nation.

Of course, protesting in the aftermath of George Floyd was heinously momentous.

But recent protesters as well today’s have nothing on the 60s and early 70s protesters.

Back then, there were actual domestic leftist terrorist groups like the Weather Underground, the Black Liberation Army, and the Symbionese Liberation Army, all involved in various violent acts that included bombing US government buildings, murder, abduction, robberies, and physically assaulting and clashing with the police.

By the way: these are all crimes. They were back then and still are now. Law and order still exist. If one day it should not, then, yes, America could indeed come to an end and you would live in a land (not a nation) of total anarchy and chaos. Not likely to happen, but who knows?

And oh, that might be what these modern-day protesters want. There are career protesters who go to these things from other parts of the US. That’s an upgrade from 60s style protesting.

Anyway, however bad it all seems, it is still déjà vu to a time when protesters made noise, caused havoc, but posed no serious threat to democracy. The real threat, however, is in the lawmakers in California like Newsom and Bass and leaders in other like-minded states that encourage these protests. They have the potential to end the chaos, but they are encouraging it for a misguided cause.

So, here we go again.

I think 30's Germany before NAZI Germany is more accurate.

 

[22lcidw]

I think 30's Germany before NAZI Germany is more accurate.

And that is you. You are just packaged differently. We are a high taxed nation.

 

[yidnar]

The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of Patriots and tyrants.

Thomas Jefferson.

waving foreign flags while theyre at it eh ?

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

Difference is those 60’s protestors lived off of their American parents while these protesters aren’t even always Americans and come in numbers potentially in the millions.

 

[Oddball]

I think 30's Germany before NAZI Germany is more accurate.

 

[scruffy]

Back then, there were actual domestic leftist terrorist groups like the Weather Underground, the Black Liberation Army, and the Symbionese Liberation Army, all involved in various violent acts that included bombing US government buildings, murder, abduction, robberies, and physically assaulting and clashing with the police.

But they were small. 15, 20 members.

These days every leftard wants to be a terrorist. If they had bombs, they'd use em.

 

[Independent thinker]

This is so simple.

Protesting is fine. That’s every American’s first amendment right. But physically attacking federal agents – whether punching, shoving, throwing rocks at them – is a crime.

Also, destroying public property is a crime. It does not matter if it’s one person who does it or a hundred or a thousand! It is still a crime, and these violent protesters all need to face trial, prosecution, sentencing and jail time like any other criminal, especially any other criminal accused of violent crimes which is what these protests in LA are devolving into.

We have been through all this before in the 1960s and early seventies and the radicals then did not overthrow America: the constitution held intact, nor did law and order fade away. People did indeed feel like the system was coming to a violent end at the time, but it did not. The country survived and became a better nation.

Of course, protesting in the aftermath of George Floyd was heinously momentous.

But recent protesters as well today’s have nothing on the 60s and early 70s protesters.

Back then, there were actual domestic leftist terrorist groups like the Weather Underground, the Black Liberation Army, and the Symbionese Liberation Army, all involved in various violent acts that included bombing US government buildings, murder, abduction, robberies, and physically assaulting and clashing with the police.

By the way: these are all crimes. They were back then and still are now. Law and order still exist. If one day it should not, then, yes, America could indeed come to an end and you would live in a land (not a nation) of total anarchy and chaos. Not likely to happen, but who knows?

And oh, that might be what these modern-day protesters want. There are career protesters who go to these things from other parts of the US. That’s an upgrade from 60s style protesting.

Anyway, however bad it all seems, it is still déjà vu to a time when protesters made noise, caused havoc, but posed no serious threat to democracy. The real threat, however, is in the lawmakers in California like Newsom and Bass and leaders in other like-minded states that encourage these protests. They have the potential to end the chaos, but they are encouraging it for a misguided cause.

So, here we go again.

Order needs to be restored, no matter what it takes. If California won't do it, then the feds will.

 

[LeftofLeft]

The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of Patriots and tyrants.

Thomas Jefferson.

Were you quoting this January 6, 2021?

Violent protesters that Burn, Loot, and Maim are not patriots; they are terrorists.

 

[pknopp]

Were you quoting this January 6, 2021?

Violent protesters that Burn, Loot, and Maim are not patriots; they are terrorists.

you can go back and look. What I said was I supported the peoples right to protest but I thought it stupid to protest over the lies of a con man.

 

[LeftofLeft]

you can go back and look. What I said was I supported the peoples right to protest but I thought it stupid to protest over the lies of a con man.

I think violent protests that impact innocent lives justify use of force to quell the violence. If people want to protest in favor of opening up borders and protecting violent rapists, murderers, sex traffickers and drug dealers into their communities, they are more than free to do so peacefully.

 

[pknopp]

I think violent protests that impact innocent lives justify use of force to quell the violence. If people want to protest in favor of opening up borders and protecting violent rapists, murderers, sex traffickers and drug dealers into their communities, they are more than free to do so peacefully.

Others see violence as a response to arresting people over an op-ed the government didn't like.

 

[struth]

The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of Patriots and tyrants.

Thomas Jefferson.

Here's the letter, frankly what I find very interesting is how in context he is saying how the Mass. insurrectionist were ignorant to the reality, but sure, let them do it, and let them die.

The tree of liberty... (Quotation)

Read an excerpt from Jefferson's letter containing the quote "the tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots..."

www.monticello.org

They were founded in ignorance, not wickedness. God forbid we should ever be 20. years without such a rebellion.[1] The people can not be all, and always, well informed. The part which is wrong will be discontented in proportion to the importance of the facts they misconceive. If they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty. We have had 13. states independant 11. years. There has been one rebellion. That comes to one rebellion in a century and a half for each state. What country before ever existed a century and half without a rebellion? And what country can preserve it’s liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is it’s natural manure.


That's a lot like what has happened here, and you know, I guess if some of these dembot brownshirst have to die, it's simply the natural manure of our tree of liberty.

 

[LeftofLeft]

Others see violence as a response to arresting people over an op-ed the government didn't like.

Violence begets violence. Some in that mix - this is exactly what they want. Violence vs. violence to create chaos and uncertainty.

 

[pknopp]

Violence begets violence. Some in that mix - this is exactly what they want. Violence vs. violence to create chaos and uncertainty.

Yes, thats the argument. Trump arrested someone over an op-ed he didn't like to stir up violence.

 

[struth]

Yes, thats the argument. Trump arrested someone over an op-ed he didn't like to stir up violence.

I assume you are speaking about the Tuft case? Wasn't there already violence going on at schools like Harvard, UCLA, and Columbia when she woke the op-ed? How did moving to revoke her visa start that?

Was there some sort of flux capacitor used to go back in time?

 

[TimFitz]

This is so simple.

Protesting is fine. That’s every American’s first amendment right. But physically attacking federal agents – whether punching, shoving, throwing rocks at them – is a crime.

Also, destroying public property is a crime. It does not matter if it’s one person who does it or a hundred or a thousand! It is still a crime, and these violent protesters all need to face trial, prosecution, sentencing and jail time like any other criminal, especially any other criminal accused of violent crimes which is what these protests in LA are devolving into.

We have been through all this before in the 1960s and early seventies and the radicals then did not overthrow America: the constitution held intact, nor did law and order fade away. People did indeed feel like the system was coming to a violent end at the time, but it did not. The country survived and became a better nation.

Of course, protesting in the aftermath of George Floyd was heinously momentous.

But recent protesters as well today’s have nothing on the 60s and early 70s protesters.

Back then, there were actual domestic leftist terrorist groups like the Weather Underground, the Black Liberation Army, and the Symbionese Liberation Army, all involved in various violent acts that included bombing US government buildings, murder, abduction, robberies, and physically assaulting and clashing with the police.

By the way: these are all crimes. They were back then and still are now. Law and order still exist. If one day it should not, then, yes, America could indeed come to an end and you would live in a land (not a nation) of total anarchy and chaos. Not likely to happen, but who knows?

And oh, that might be what these modern-day protesters want. There are career protesters who go to these things from other parts of the US. That’s an upgrade from 60s style protesting.

Anyway, however bad it all seems, it is still déjà vu to a time when protesters made noise, caused havoc, but posed no serious threat to democracy. The real threat, however, is in the lawmakers in California like Newsom and Bass and leaders in other like-minded states that encourage these protests. They have the potential to end the chaos, but they are encouraging it for a misguided cause.

So, here we go again.

It is certainly what Trump wants. He is inciting it. Encouraging Jack booted thugs to round up people at random and call it “alaw enforcement”.

It’s what the angry old right wing wants too.

They have been trying to relitigate 1968 since 1968.

They want their segregation and white supremacy secured.

And they hide behind a cross and call it “christian nationalism”