Las Vegas shooting: Reports of shooter at Mandalay Bay Casino

[beagle9]

The only thing that needs to be banned is quick reloading magazines. Just limit the guns to 15 rounds and reloading one cartridge at a time. That would eliminate the ability of one person to fire thousands of rounds into crowds.

Yeah, because no-one would ever figure out a way around Thaaat!

Not with legal off the shelf stuff that can't raise suspicions until they start killing. Most people don't have the skills to secretly build reliable weapons & reloading accessories by themselves.

Was the Vegas shooter a "most people?"

Tim McVeigh?

Neither could have secretly built something that could reliably & effectively fired over 1,500 bullets into a crowd in less than 10 minutes.

You don't have to build that gun....just about any gun you buy will do that and he had 23 of them in the room.....

All you nuts have is ban this, ban that, you can't have this, you can't have that, sure, we know nothing we just banned would stop the next guy or any of the criminals using guns .....but we still want to do it

And that makes sense to you guys....? That is why we don't trust you, that is why we are going to fight for every single gun, bullet and magazine going forward....you have no end except to ban all guns, bullets and magazines...one item at a time....

. The problem is that as socieital norms change, and generational change happens, you and me are becoming minorities in our views and thinking. It is why Obama made the statement he used against us " They're just clinging to their guns, and their Bible's still". He figured along with the liberals who followed him, that the views of old will be swallowed up by the views of the new. You are right that what is thought by the knee jerk reaction today won't work, but we are just the clingers in our views right ? I think anything that turns a semi-automatic weapon into an automatic weapon will be under great review now, and don't be surprised if things such as the bumpstock are added to the automatic ban already in place. Hopefully that will be all that happens, and the actual attack on semi-automatic weapons won't result as a next step or consequence of what is going on today.

 

[KissMy]

Banning the bumpstock would give the poor souls at least a sporting chance against a sniper with a bumpstock that allowed him to lay down fire upon them at a rate that was unexceptable, and ended up killing them like shooting fish in a barrel. Just saying.

You can bump fire a semiautomatic without a bump stock but of course you didn't know that.

The only thing that needs to be banned is quick reloading magazines. Just limit the guns to 15 rounds and reloading one cartridge at a time. That would eliminate the ability of one person to fire thousands of rounds into crowds.

There's already a way around that.

The Vegas shooter would not have fired so many shots with that contraption. He was firing 50 round burst. If laws don't work then eliminate all traffic & drug laws & building codes.

 

[Marion Morrison]

Banning the bumpstock would give the poor souls at least a sporting chance against a sniper with a bumpstock that allowed him to lay down fire upon them at a rate that was unexceptable, and ended up killing them like shooting fish in a barrel. Just saying.

You can bump fire a semiautomatic without a bump stock but of course you didn't know that.

The only thing that needs to be banned is quick reloading magazines. Just limit the guns to 15 rounds and reloading one cartridge at a time. That would eliminate the ability of one person to fire thousands of rounds into crowds.

There's already a way around that.

The Vegas shooter would not have fired so many shots with that contraption. He was firing 50 round burst. If laws don't work then eliminate all traffic & drug laws & building codes.

Yeah, let's ban murder! Owait..

 

[beagle9]

Banning the bumpstock would give the poor souls at least a sporting chance against a sniper with a bumpstock that allowed him to lay down fire upon them at a rate that was unexceptable, and ended up killing them like shooting fish in a barrel. Just saying.

You can bump fire a semiautomatic without a bump stock but of course you didn't know that.

The only thing that needs to be banned is quick reloading magazines. Just limit the guns to 15 rounds and reloading one cartridge at a time. That would eliminate the ability of one person to fire thousands of rounds into crowds.

There's already a way around that.

The Vegas shooter would not have fired so many shots with that contraption. He was firing 50 round burst. If laws don't work then eliminate all traffic & drug laws & building codes.

Yeah, let's ban murder! Owait..

Funny, but seriously as I look back on things in the past that I thought were infringements on my freedoms such as with the seat belt law for example, it is that I have been made a believer on that law now. Why ??? Because people for the most part were resisting the law until they just got used to it after it passed, and when they found through their own personal experiences that the seat belt saved lives, then their eyes were finally opened. I know that not the same exist in every law created does it render the same conclusions or outcomes, but the seat belt law was a good one. Heck there are many laws that don't even apply today, and they are stricken from the books... There will be more created in the future that will be deemed useless once understand that some laws are created out of knee jerk reactions in order to make some feel good, but in reality such laws only enhance or create something else that could be way worse. We do have to becareful about these things, and official panels should be appointed to review the potential idea for a new law to be formed, and the review should last for at least one year after the events that took place in which spurred the ideas that were formed.

 

[Skull Pilot]

Banning the bumpstock would give the poor souls at least a sporting chance against a sniper with a bumpstock that allowed him to lay down fire upon them at a rate that was unexceptable, and ended up killing them like shooting fish in a barrel. Just saying.

You can bump fire a semiautomatic without a bump stock but of course you didn't know that.

The only thing that needs to be banned is quick reloading magazines. Just limit the guns to 15 rounds and reloading one cartridge at a time. That would eliminate the ability of one person to fire thousands of rounds into crowds.

There's already a way around that.

The Vegas shooter would not have fired so many shots with that contraption. He was firing 50 round burst. If laws don't work then eliminate all traffic & drug laws & building codes.

He wasn't firing bursts he was firing one shot at a time.

You people really need to learn how semiautomatic rifles work

 

[Faun]

Banning the bumpstock would give the poor souls at least a sporting chance against a sniper with a bumpstock that allowed him to lay down fire upon them at a rate that was unexceptable, and ended up killing them like shooting fish in a barrel. Just saying.

You can bump fire a semiautomatic without a bump stock but of course you didn't know that.

The only thing that needs to be banned is quick reloading magazines. Just limit the guns to 15 rounds and reloading one cartridge at a time. That would eliminate the ability of one person to fire thousands of rounds into crowds.

There's already a way around that.

The Vegas shooter would not have fired so many shots with that contraption. He was firing 50 round burst. If laws don't work then eliminate all traffic & drug laws & building codes.

He wasn't firing bursts he was firing one shot at a time.

You people really need to learn how semiautomatic rifles work

Imbecile...

Even you said his weapon simulated an automatic rifle.

 

[Skull Pilot]

You can bump fire a semiautomatic without a bump stock but of course you didn't know that.

The only thing that needs to be banned is quick reloading magazines. Just limit the guns to 15 rounds and reloading one cartridge at a time. That would eliminate the ability of one person to fire thousands of rounds into crowds.

There's already a way around that.

The Vegas shooter would not have fired so many shots with that contraption. He was firing 50 round burst. If laws don't work then eliminate all traffic & drug laws & building codes.

He wasn't firing bursts he was firing one shot at a time.

You people really need to learn how semiautomatic rifles work

Imbecile...

Even you said his weapon simulated an automatic rifle.

If you're going to tell me what I have said you should quote the post.

 

[Ace Nova]

You can bump fire a semiautomatic without a bump stock but of course you didn't know that.

The only thing that needs to be banned is quick reloading magazines. Just limit the guns to 15 rounds and reloading one cartridge at a time. That would eliminate the ability of one person to fire thousands of rounds into crowds.

There's already a way around that.

The Vegas shooter would not have fired so many shots with that contraption. He was firing 50 round burst. If laws don't work then eliminate all traffic & drug laws & building codes.

He wasn't firing bursts he was firing one shot at a time.

You people really need to learn how semiautomatic rifles work

Imbecile...

Even you said his weapon simulated an automatic rifle.

lol...even fully automatics fire one round at a time...what's that have to do with anything?

It's the rate at which they were fired that counts and him having bump stocks made him fire at a rate that simulated the rate of some fully automatics.

 

[Marion Morrison]

The only thing that needs to be banned is quick reloading magazines. Just limit the guns to 15 rounds and reloading one cartridge at a time. That would eliminate the ability of one person to fire thousands of rounds into crowds.

There's already a way around that.

The Vegas shooter would not have fired so many shots with that contraption. He was firing 50 round burst. If laws don't work then eliminate all traffic & drug laws & building codes.

He wasn't firing bursts he was firing one shot at a time.

You people really need to learn how semiautomatic rifles work

Imbecile...

Even you said his weapon simulated an automatic rifle.

lol...even fully automatics fire one round at a time...what's that have to do with anything?

It's the rate at which they were fired that counts and him having bump stocks made him fire at a rate that simulated the rate of some fully automatics.

Exactly how does that work again?

 

[KissMy]

He was shooting 9 rounds a second. He fired over 1500 rounds hitting 600 people. There is no legitimate reason for that in hunting, self defense or war. It's only useful for terror, mass killing & genocide, which we don't need in the USA!

 

[westwall]

Banning the bumpstock would give the poor souls at least a sporting chance against a sniper with a bumpstock that allowed him to lay down fire upon them at a rate that was unexceptable, and ended up killing them like shooting fish in a barrel. Just saying.

You can bump fire a semiautomatic without a bump stock but of course you didn't know that.

The only thing that needs to be banned is quick reloading magazines. Just limit the guns to 15 rounds and reloading one cartridge at a time. That would eliminate the ability of one person to fire thousands of rounds into crowds.

There's already a way around that.

The Vegas shooter would not have fired so many shots with that contraption. He was firing 50 round burst. If laws don't work then eliminate all traffic & drug laws & building codes.

Yes. He fired hundreds of rounds of ammunition that fortunately hit nothing but air. That is the nature of rapid fire. You don't hit anything important.

 

[westwall]

He was shooting 9 rounds a second. He fired over 1500 rounds hitting 600 people. There is no legitimate reason for that in hunting, self defense or war. It's only useful for terror, mass killing & genocide, which we don't need in the USA!

Not useful for war? You've clearly never read a treatise on combat tactics.

 

[KissMy]

He was shooting 9 rounds a second. He fired over 1500 rounds hitting 600 people. There is no legitimate reason for that in hunting, self defense or war. It's only useful for terror, mass killing & genocide, which we don't need in the USA!

Not useful for war? You've clearly never read a treatise on combat tactics.

It only waste ammo, adds more weight, slows troops, eats up vital resources & increases supply line dependency.

 

[westwall]

He was shooting 9 rounds a second. He fired over 1500 rounds hitting 600 people. There is no legitimate reason for that in hunting, self defense or war. It's only useful for terror, mass killing & genocide, which we don't need in the USA!

Not useful for war? You've clearly never read a treatise on combat tactics.

It only waste ammo, adds more weight, slows troops, eats up vital resources & increases supply line dependency.

And EVERY essay on military tactics advocates the use of full auto covering fire to keep the enemy's heads down so that your troops can envelope them and capture them. Until you have read something that pertains to what the subject matter is I suggest you remain silent. You merely show your ignorance.

 

[Skull Pilot]

The only thing that needs to be banned is quick reloading magazines. Just limit the guns to 15 rounds and reloading one cartridge at a time. That would eliminate the ability of one person to fire thousands of rounds into crowds.

There's already a way around that.

The Vegas shooter would not have fired so many shots with that contraption. He was firing 50 round burst. If laws don't work then eliminate all traffic & drug laws & building codes.

He wasn't firing bursts he was firing one shot at a time.

You people really need to learn how semiautomatic rifles work

Imbecile...

Even you said his weapon simulated an automatic rifle.

lol...even fully automatics fire one round at a time...what's that have to do with anything?

It's the rate at which they were fired that counts and him having bump stocks made him fire at a rate that simulated the rate of some fully automatics.

There is a difference between automatic fire and semiautomatic fire.

Bump stocks do not change semiautomatic fire into automatic fire.

 

[Skull Pilot]

He was shooting 9 rounds a second. He fired over 1500 rounds hitting 600 people. There is no legitimate reason for that in hunting, self defense or war. It's only useful for terror, mass killing & genocide, which we don't need in the USA!

We do not know if all 600 injuries were gunshot wounds. I'm sure many of those injuries ere caused by falls, being trampled etc.

 

[KissMy]

He was shooting 9 rounds a second. He fired over 1500 rounds hitting 600 people. There is no legitimate reason for that in hunting, self defense or war. It's only useful for terror, mass killing & genocide, which we don't need in the USA!

Not useful for war? You've clearly never read a treatise on combat tactics.

It only waste ammo, adds more weight, slows troops, eats up vital resources & increases supply line dependency.

And EVERY essay on military tactics advocates the use of full auto covering fire to keep the enemy's heads down so that your troops can envelope them and capture them. Until you have read something that pertains to what the subject matter is I suggest you remain silent. You merely show your ignorance.

You're the one who is ignorant. When I hear some idiot laying down "cover fire" I know it's time to shoot exposed troops. Just because some ammo selling defense contractor wrote it in books shoved in-front of troops, does not mean it's true.

 

[westwall]

He was shooting 9 rounds a second. He fired over 1500 rounds hitting 600 people. There is no legitimate reason for that in hunting, self defense or war. It's only useful for terror, mass killing & genocide, which we don't need in the USA!

Not useful for war? You've clearly never read a treatise on combat tactics.

It only waste ammo, adds more weight, slows troops, eats up vital resources & increases supply line dependency.

And EVERY essay on military tactics advocates the use of full auto covering fire to keep the enemy's heads down so that your troops can envelope them and capture them. Until you have read something that pertains to what the subject matter is I suggest you remain silent. You merely show your ignorance.

You're the one who is ignorant. When I hear some idiot laying down "cover fire" I know it's time to shoot exposed troops. Just because some ammo selling defense contractor wrote it in books shoved in-front of troops, does not mean it's true.

It has been a tactic since before there WERE defense contractors, dumb ass.

 

[beagle9]

Banning the bumpstock would give the poor souls at least a sporting chance against a sniper with a bumpstock that allowed him to lay down fire upon them at a rate that was unexceptable, and ended up killing them like shooting fish in a barrel. Just saying.

You can bump fire a semiautomatic without a bump stock but of course you didn't know that.

The only thing that needs to be banned is quick reloading magazines. Just limit the guns to 15 rounds and reloading one cartridge at a time. That would eliminate the ability of one person to fire thousands of rounds into crowds.

There's already a way around that.

The Vegas shooter would not have fired so many shots with that contraption. He was firing 50 round burst. If laws don't work then eliminate all traffic & drug laws & building codes.

Yes. He fired hundreds of rounds of ammunition that fortunately hit nothing but air. That is the nature of rapid fire. You don't hit anything important.

. Did the case and the people shot disappear off the face of the Earth ?? How do we know who was shot & wounded, and who was trampled ??? Where did the case go ??.

 

[Ace Nova]

Banning the bumpstock would give the poor souls at least a sporting chance against a sniper with a bumpstock that allowed him to lay down fire upon them at a rate that was unexceptable, and ended up killing them like shooting fish in a barrel. Just saying.

You can bump fire a semiautomatic without a bump stock but of course you didn't know that.

The only thing that needs to be banned is quick reloading magazines. Just limit the guns to 15 rounds and reloading one cartridge at a time. That would eliminate the ability of one person to fire thousands of rounds into crowds.

There's already a way around that.

The Vegas shooter would not have fired so many shots with that contraption. He was firing 50 round burst. If laws don't work then eliminate all traffic & drug laws & building codes.

Yes. He fired hundreds of rounds of ammunition that fortunately hit nothing but air. That is the nature of rapid fire. You don't hit anything important.

lol...maybe if you're shooting at a single target.

He fired into a crowd of 20,000 people piled together like sardines....he hit plenty of people.