Las Vegas shooting: Reports of shooter at Mandalay Bay Casino

[beagle9]

. Ok, is the weapon an automatic weapon or a semi-automatic weapon ? Is he showing us a technique that allows the weapon to perform like an automatic weapon or is the weapon an automatic weapon in which he is using a technique on to fire the automatic as a semi or automatic weapon ??

It’s a semi automatic. And no it’s not firing like an automatic. It’s still firing like a semi. Just with better rhythm. The forward tension trips the trigger after it bumps off your shoulder. Hence the term “bump fire”. This has been around since practically the beginning of semiauto rifles. This is ancient news. But gun ingnorant liberals are running around with their hair on fire, acting like this is something new. That’s how dumb, and reactionary they are. They want to ban something; and they don’t even know how it works or what it does...

. Does it help your argument to call citizens dumb or ignorant when they are just trying to understand how people get dead at the hands of their own citizens by the hundreds in one event ? I think that no one should own or keep a weapon that is capable of that kind of carnage without being heavily vetted and registered with the government under specific licensing classifications. Ok, so I'll give you your bump, but now give me that dam banana clip that allows that gun to shoot so many times before reload.

I’ve had my bump long before these stocks came out. What part of “it’s a technique” don’t you get?

. Give up those banana clips unless you're a member of a militia or other to be recognized by law enforcement or government.

You clearly don’t understand what the “militia” meant at the time of the writing of that revered document. It meant every able bodied man proficient in the use of his weapon. Free men. Not government agents.

Under the militia (i.e. being registered under a militia heading) correct ?

 

[Vastator]

No worries it’s easy to do with merely practice and technique. Here...

. Ok, is the weapon an automatic weapon or a semi-automatic weapon ? Is he showing us a technique that allows the weapon to perform like an automatic weapon or is the weapon an automatic weapon in which he is using a technique on to fire the automatic as a semi or automatic weapon ??

Your ignorance of guns is noted.

It's a semi-automatic weapon he's using.

The Las Vegas shooter had full-auto weapons as well as semi-auto with bump stocks. We'll know more when they show the cache.

. I've owned weapons, and still have them, but I have never ventured into the weapons of mass destruction area in life. Guess I've never needed to or had a reason to. To each their own, but we need to get control over idiots ending up with such lethal weponry that can mow down so many at one time. It can be done (fix these things better), but I have heard throughout time some of the most idiotic excuses to not get it done (trumping any democrats excuses when they get excuses running), than can be imaginable. Sad really, because we always end up back here again and again.

It could be much worse. Best not to forget history’s lessons, from those in the past who’ve allowed the governing body to disarm them...

Independent strong militia's should exist in every state imho for that reason. Off the grid crazies don't need to possess weapons of mass destruction. To risky as is being proven.

Freedom is risky. Nearly every animal in a zoo is safe. But it damn sure isn’t free...

 

[Manonthestreet]

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[Vastator]

It’s a semi automatic. And no it’s not firing like an automatic. It’s still firing like a semi. Just with better rhythm. The forward tension trips the trigger after it bumps off your shoulder. Hence the term “bump fire”. This has been around since practically the beginning of semiauto rifles. This is ancient news. But gun ingnorant liberals are running around with their hair on fire, acting like this is something new. That’s how dumb, and reactionary they are. They want to ban something; and they don’t even know how it works or what it does...

. Does it help your argument to call citizens dumb or ignorant when they are just trying to understand how people get dead at the hands of their own citizens by the hundreds in one event ? I think that no one should own or keep a weapon that is capable of that kind of carnage without being heavily vetted and registered with the government under specific licensing classifications. Ok, so I'll give you your bump, but now give me that dam banana clip that allows that gun to shoot so many times before reload.

I’ve had my bump long before these stocks came out. What part of “it’s a technique” don’t you get?

. Give up those banana clips unless you're a member of a militia or other to be recognized by law enforcement or government.

You clearly don’t understand what the “militia” meant at the time of the writing of that revered document. It meant every able bodied man proficient in the use of his weapon. Free men. Not government agents.

Under the militia correct ?

Research militia in the context of the day... hint it meant each man had his own gear, and was proficient in the use of his weapon; such that he could be called up at a moments notice. It’s not the “structured”, “overseen” entity you wish it were.

 

[rightwinger]

In this case they are, dope.

And you can't see why using the argument that a particular thing is good for mass murder to support regulation is simplistic?

It's not simplistic. Your argument is. These are guns. Guns designed to kill.
Measures have been taken to mitigate the possibility of attacks in every other way. Cockpit doors are fortified and TSA screens passengers. Cities around the world are working to better protect large gatherings of pedestrians from vehicles. The glaring difference is of course that America has done nothing to address these attacks. Not one thing. In fact, people like you actively fight against it. So when you use arguments like, " ya but...trucks", it is not only simplistic but dumb.

European Cities Add Barriers to Thwart Vehicle Attacks

Guns are designed to propel a projectile at a target
Anything else that happens is the shooter's responsibility.

OK so how do you stop these type of attacks without trampling on the rights of people who own guns or want to own guns who will never commit such a crime?

You do not need to propel a projectile at a target at 500 rounds per minute

It's not up to you to tell other people what they "need" is it?

I don't shoot like that because it's an impractical way to shoot a gun if you are concerned at all about accuracy.

But it doesn't matter if people can because the vast majority of people who own guns and who might use a bump stock will never ever turn their weapons on other people

Yes it is

When I see 500 injured and 59 dead, I have a right to say

Enough is enough

 

[beagle9]

. Does it help your argument to call citizens dumb or ignorant when they are just trying to understand how people get dead at the hands of their own citizens by the hundreds in one event ? I think that no one should own or keep a weapon that is capable of that kind of carnage without being heavily vetted and registered with the government under specific licensing classifications. Ok, so I'll give you your bump, but now give me that dam banana clip that allows that gun to shoot so many times before reload.

I’ve had my bump long before these stocks came out. What part of “it’s a technique” don’t you get?

. Give up those banana clips unless you're a member of a militia or other to be recognized by law enforcement or government.

You clearly don’t understand what the “militia” meant at the time of the writing of that revered document. It meant every able bodied man proficient in the use of his weapon. Free men. Not government agents.

Under the militia correct ?

Research militia in the context of the day... hint it meant each man had his own gear, and was proficient in the use of his weapon; such that he could be called up at a moments notice. It’s not the “structured”, “overseen” entity you wish it were.

Why the title if not a structured entity that would be the very one to call up at a moment's notice the men who undoubtedly are on a list no ?

 

[Vastator]

It’s a semi automatic. And no it’s not firing like an automatic. It’s still firing like a semi. Just with better rhythm. The forward tension trips the trigger after it bumps off your shoulder. Hence the term “bump fire”. This has been around since practically the beginning of semiauto rifles. This is ancient news. But gun ingnorant liberals are running around with their hair on fire, acting like this is something new. That’s how dumb, and reactionary they are. They want to ban something; and they don’t even know how it works or what it does...

. Does it help your argument to call citizens dumb or ignorant when they are just trying to understand how people get dead at the hands of their own citizens by the hundreds in one event ? I think that no one should own or keep a weapon that is capable of that kind of carnage without being heavily vetted and registered with the government under specific licensing classifications. Ok, so I'll give you your bump, but now give me that dam banana clip that allows that gun to shoot so many times before reload.

I’ve had my bump long before these stocks came out. What part of “it’s a technique” don’t you get?

. Give up those banana clips unless you're a member of a militia or other to be recognized by law enforcement or government.

You clearly don’t understand what the “militia” meant at the time of the writing of that revered document. It meant every able bodied man proficient in the use of his weapon. Free men. Not government agents.

Under the militia (i.e. being registered under a militia heading) correct ?

No... registering is never mentioned. Nor should it ever be...

 

[rightwinger]

He had no place in society. For some reason you seem to want to make excuses for him

you forget...

it's not the shooters fault, it's the guns fault

. It's the shooters fault yes, but our greedy ace business people who want to become the most sleezy human beings alive, and this by selling (for the love of money), our citizens safety out to anyone with a dam dollar in their pocket is the lowest of the low in my opinion.

Oh! So it's the capitalist oppressors' fault!

. Why don't you address the points made ?? You think anyone should be able to amass that kind of fire power undetected, and then have the kits shipped to them undetected in order to kill almost 60 Americans, and wound almost 600 ???

" You think anyone should be able to amass that kind of fire power undetected,"

Is it your business?

"then have the kits shipped to them undetected"

undetected?

again, is it your business?

"in order to kill almost 60 Americans, and wound almost 600"

I've ordered quite a bit from Cabelas, and other companies.

Don't remember anywhere on the order form what my intentions were in the use of the product.


hmm, if such a question were on the form, I wonder how many would state, "I want this product, so I can kill people in cold blood"

Yes

It is our business

When 30,000 lose their lives because of firearms....it is our business
When some monster has free access to a weapon that fires 500 rounds a minute and uses it to kill 59 and injure 500....it is our business

 

[beagle9]

. Does it help your argument to call citizens dumb or ignorant when they are just trying to understand how people get dead at the hands of their own citizens by the hundreds in one event ? I think that no one should own or keep a weapon that is capable of that kind of carnage without being heavily vetted and registered with the government under specific licensing classifications. Ok, so I'll give you your bump, but now give me that dam banana clip that allows that gun to shoot so many times before reload.

I’ve had my bump long before these stocks came out. What part of “it’s a technique” don’t you get?

. Give up those banana clips unless you're a member of a militia or other to be recognized by law enforcement or government.

You clearly don’t understand what the “militia” meant at the time of the writing of that revered document. It meant every able bodied man proficient in the use of his weapon. Free men. Not government agents.

Under the militia (i.e. being registered under a militia heading) correct ?

No... registering is never mentioned. Nor should it ever be...

How do you call these men up at a moment's notice ??

 

[rightwinger]

. Does it help your argument to call citizens dumb or ignorant when they are just trying to understand how people get dead at the hands of their own citizens by the hundreds in one event ? I think that no one should own or keep a weapon that is capable of that kind of carnage without being heavily vetted and registered with the government under specific licensing classifications. Ok, so I'll give you your bump, but now give me that dam banana clip that allows that gun to shoot so many times before reload.

I’ve had my bump long before these stocks came out. What part of “it’s a technique” don’t you get?

. Give up those banana clips unless you're a member of a militia or other to be recognized by law enforcement or government.

You clearly don’t understand what the “militia” meant at the time of the writing of that revered document. It meant every able bodied man proficient in the use of his weapon. Free men. Not government agents.

Under the militia (i.e. being registered under a militia heading) correct ?

No... registering is never mentioned. Nor should it ever be...

Gun registration is essential for a militia

 

[Vastator]

I’ve had my bump long before these stocks came out. What part of “it’s a technique” don’t you get?

. Give up those banana clips unless you're a member of a militia or other to be recognized by law enforcement or government.

You clearly don’t understand what the “militia” meant at the time of the writing of that revered document. It meant every able bodied man proficient in the use of his weapon. Free men. Not government agents.

Under the militia correct ?

Research militia in the context of the day... hint it meant each man had his own gear, and was proficient in the use of his weapon; such that he could be called up at a moments notice. It’s not the “structured”, “overseen” entity you wish it were.

Why the title if not a structured entity that would be the very one to call up at a moment's notice the men who undoubtedly are on a list no ?

Because the founders were against a standing army. So the militias were locals who were mustered up as needed. Whether by the town crier, a news paper add or church bells. Each time the militia formed it might be composed of differing individuals depending on how quickly they were “drummed” up. Oh yeah I forgot to mention that they would parade through towns, with drummers, picking up willing free men as they went along. That’s where we get the phrase “drummed up”.

 

[Vastator]

I’ve had my bump long before these stocks came out. What part of “it’s a technique” don’t you get?

. Give up those banana clips unless you're a member of a militia or other to be recognized by law enforcement or government.

You clearly don’t understand what the “militia” meant at the time of the writing of that revered document. It meant every able bodied man proficient in the use of his weapon. Free men. Not government agents.

Under the militia (i.e. being registered under a militia heading) correct ?

No... registering is never mentioned. Nor should it ever be...

How do you call these men up at a moment's notice ??

Amber alert might be a modern solution...

 

[Faun]

republican solutions today

Get used to it

Republican Senator Has Worst Solution Ever to Mass Shootings

“But I think people are going to have to take steps in their own lives to take precautions. To protect themselves. And in situations like that, you know, try to stay safe. As somebody said — get small.”

GET SMALL

No worries -- president trump will toss victims a roll of paper towels.

 

[Dale Smith]

It reeks of an Operation Gladio type of event. There are too many conflicting accounts like there were multiple shooters and there is clear video of rifle flashes on the 10th floor from three different rooms. They turned on the lights while this was going on making the concert-goers more vulnerable THEN you have exits that were blocked and inaccessible to them to escape.

THEN we are told that this 64 year old man lugged nearly 20 rifles up to the 32nd floor of a posh Vegas Hotel and no one noticed? This is the epitome of the Hegelian Dialectic.....create a crisis, wait for the emotional outcry and then propose a solution to the very problem you caused that fits your agenda. Not even 24 hours after this event, I got an e-mail from Moveon.org asking me to sign a petition banning semi-automatic weapons while begging for a donation.......such bullshit.

Another hoax, eh, delusional dale?

Not a hoax, fawn..........I simply doubt the official narrative including the story that the alleged shooter had Antifa literature in his hotel room. People did die and from what I have ascertained? They were left like sitting ducks when the lights were turned on. Do YOU buy the official story "lock, stock and barrel" with the attitude of "Move along folks...nothing to see here"?

There is no official story yet, dumbfuck.

They are saying it was a lone gunman and we know that is the bullshit. Police scanner chatter and eye-witnesses say so, "dumbfuck".

You poor dumbfucking conspiracy nut.

They’re still working on figuring what happened. Whatever they say now might be accurate or might drastically change, depending upon the evidence they discover.

Again, putz.... there is no official story yet.

Dayam, you’re ******* crazy.

No, punkinpuss, the narrative has been settled upon..... but there were multiple shooters and this has been confirmed by the Las Vegas police scanner audio. Don't get pissed at me because you buy the bullshit and scarf it down like a starving dog.

 

[Faun]

Another hoax, eh, delusional dale?

Not a hoax, fawn..........I simply doubt the official narrative including the story that the alleged shooter had Antifa literature in his hotel room. People did die and from what I have ascertained? They were left like sitting ducks when the lights were turned on. Do YOU buy the official story "lock, stock and barrel" with the attitude of "Move along folks...nothing to see here"?

There is no official story yet, dumbfuck.

They are saying it was a lone gunman and we know that is the bullshit. Police scanner chatter and eye-witnesses say so, "dumbfuck".

You poor dumbfucking conspiracy nut.

They’re still working on figuring what happened. Whatever they say now might be accurate or might drastically change, depending upon the evidence they discover.

Again, putz.... there is no official story yet.

Dayam, you’re ******* crazy.

No, punkinpuss, the narrative has been settled upon..... but there were multiple shooters and this has been confirmed by the Las Vegas police scanner audio. Don't get pissed at me because you buy the bullshit and scarf it down like a starving dog.

 

[rightwinger]

Another hoax, eh, delusional dale?

Not a hoax, fawn..........I simply doubt the official narrative including the story that the alleged shooter had Antifa literature in his hotel room. People did die and from what I have ascertained? They were left like sitting ducks when the lights were turned on. Do YOU buy the official story "lock, stock and barrel" with the attitude of "Move along folks...nothing to see here"?

There is no official story yet, dumbfuck.

They are saying it was a lone gunman and we know that is the bullshit. Police scanner chatter and eye-witnesses say so, "dumbfuck".

You poor dumbfucking conspiracy nut.

They’re still working on figuring what happened. Whatever they say now might be accurate or might drastically change, depending upon the evidence they discover.

Again, putz.... there is no official story yet.

Dayam, you’re ******* crazy.

No, punkinpuss, the narrative has been settled upon..... but there were multiple shooters and this has been confirmed by the Las Vegas police scanner audio. Don't get pissed at me because you buy the bullshit and scarf it down like a starving dog.

Nut job is already on a new conspiracy

 

[Faun]

Not a hoax, fawn..........I simply doubt the official narrative including the story that the alleged shooter had Antifa literature in his hotel room. People did die and from what I have ascertained? They were left like sitting ducks when the lights were turned on. Do YOU buy the official story "lock, stock and barrel" with the attitude of "Move along folks...nothing to see here"?

There is no official story yet, dumbfuck.

They are saying it was a lone gunman and we know that is the bullshit. Police scanner chatter and eye-witnesses say so, "dumbfuck".

You poor dumbfucking conspiracy nut.

They’re still working on figuring what happened. Whatever they say now might be accurate or might drastically change, depending upon the evidence they discover.

Again, putz.... there is no official story yet.

Dayam, you’re ******* crazy.

No, punkinpuss, the narrative has been settled upon..... but there were multiple shooters and this has been confirmed by the Las Vegas police scanner audio. Don't get pissed at me because you buy the bullshit and scarf it down like a starving dog.

Nut job is already on a new conspiracy

The beauty of being a conspiracy nut is ...... you get to make up anything you can imagine.

 

[Dale Smith]

Not a hoax, fawn..........I simply doubt the official narrative including the story that the alleged shooter had Antifa literature in his hotel room. People did die and from what I have ascertained? They were left like sitting ducks when the lights were turned on. Do YOU buy the official story "lock, stock and barrel" with the attitude of "Move along folks...nothing to see here"?

There is no official story yet, dumbfuck.

They are saying it was a lone gunman and we know that is the bullshit. Police scanner chatter and eye-witnesses say so, "dumbfuck".

You poor dumbfucking conspiracy nut.

They’re still working on figuring what happened. Whatever they say now might be accurate or might drastically change, depending upon the evidence they discover.

Again, putz.... there is no official story yet.

Dayam, you’re ******* crazy.

No, punkinpuss, the narrative has been settled upon..... but there were multiple shooters and this has been confirmed by the Las Vegas police scanner audio. Don't get pissed at me because you buy the bullshit and scarf it down like a starving dog.

 

[Faun]

There is no official story yet, dumbfuck.

They are saying it was a lone gunman and we know that is the bullshit. Police scanner chatter and eye-witnesses say so, "dumbfuck".

You poor dumbfucking conspiracy nut.

They’re still working on figuring what happened. Whatever they say now might be accurate or might drastically change, depending upon the evidence they discover.

Again, putz.... there is no official story yet.

Dayam, you’re ******* crazy.

No, punkinpuss, the narrative has been settled upon..... but there were multiple shooters and this has been confirmed by the Las Vegas police scanner audio. Don't get pissed at me because you buy the bullshit and scarf it down like a starving dog.

Awww, that really hurts my feelings, delusional dale.

Especially coming from someone who's batshit insane.

 

[Dale Smith]

Not a hoax, fawn..........I simply doubt the official narrative including the story that the alleged shooter had Antifa literature in his hotel room. People did die and from what I have ascertained? They were left like sitting ducks when the lights were turned on. Do YOU buy the official story "lock, stock and barrel" with the attitude of "Move along folks...nothing to see here"?

There is no official story yet, dumbfuck.

They are saying it was a lone gunman and we know that is the bullshit. Police scanner chatter and eye-witnesses say so, "dumbfuck".

You poor dumbfucking conspiracy nut.

They’re still working on figuring what happened. Whatever they say now might be accurate or might drastically change, depending upon the evidence they discover.

Again, putz.... there is no official story yet.

Dayam, you’re ******* crazy.

No, punkinpuss, the narrative has been settled upon..... but there were multiple shooters and this has been confirmed by the Las Vegas police scanner audio. Don't get pissed at me because you buy the bullshit and scarf it down like a starving dog.

Nut job is already on a new conspiracy

Go **** yourself, asswipe..........this is one genie that you can't put back in the bottle. You want to call those that were there on the scene "liars" that risked their lives? Go right ahead. You want to ignore the cellphone videos that shows gun flashes in the the windows far below the 32nd floor? Knock yourself out.......you see? I don't believe the lamestream media and the load of shit they shovel like you do. I don't even believe that this patsy had Antifa literature in his room.