My religious beliefs are none of your business and not necessary to this discussion, THAT'S WHY I HAVEN'T BROUGHT THEM UP, you illogical fool. If you can't wrap your pea-brain around the idea of opposing the taking of innocent life outside a specific religious tradition then you are too blinded by your own bigotry to discuss anything rationally. I just bet that you'd get all upset if a religious person were to assert that an unreligious person is incapable of morality or a sense of right and wrong or whatever terms some lefty professor once told you to use, right?
Your religious beliefs are CENTRAL to the discussion.
You have not provided one single valid reason why a collection of cells that might one day form a self aware human being should be considered a human being. Not one.
What's sad to watch is how militant yet at the same time conflicted many of you lefties are over the basic moral problem involved in the action you would defend. You're quick to scream slogans but twist yourselves into knots to avoid the fact that we are talking about taking innocent human life. You seek shelter in appeals to 'science,' but science tells us that the fertilized egg, barring some disruption of the process, will develop into what even you cannot avoid recognizing as a human being (even if that means waiting until a person is 30 years old or some other arbitrary stage in natural human development).
If the only consideration for something to be considered a human being is that it has the potential to someday be one,
then a woman commits murder every single month of her life.
And YOU are the one being "militant", you asshole.
YOU are the one calling people "murderers" when no crime has been committed.
Do you think that people who disagree with you
should just complacently sit back while you falsely accuse them of MURDER???
Are you kidding me?
You want (need?) to believe that there is some point along the natural developmental process at which humanity is magically conferred so that you can justify killing the living organism at any time prior to that, but science does not, cannot, and will not provide you the comfort of any definitive identification of that 'magic time.' Hell, you lefties can't even agree among yourselves when the 'magic time' is supposed to be other than to claim it for whatever point is convenient for excuse making and avoiding the central point of the issue at any given time.
Yes, science does in fact tell us when a fetus becomes sentient. You just don't want to hear it.
You want to call it "Magic Time" and wrap it in a cloudy layer of mystery so you can prove your point and feel good about calling other people "murderers".
Here, this is from just a cursory search:
When is the Capacity for Sentience Acquired During Human Fetal Development?, Journal of Maternal-Fetal and Neonatal Medicine, Informa Healthcare
Specifically:
It is concluded that the basic neuronal substrate required to transmit somatosensory information develops by mid-gestation (18 to 25 weeks), however, the functional capacity of the neural circuitry is limited by the immaturity of the system. Thus, 18 to 25 weeks is considered the earliest stage at which the lower boundary of sentience could be placed.
Which means that any first trimester abortion is specifically not murder,
because "murder" requires human consciousness to first exist and then be extinguished.
But don't let those inconvenient facts in get in the way of your beliefs.
There is no need to bring religion into the discussion to recognize all of the above, and those who would make 'science' their religion will find no applicable gospel to comfort them in attempting to defend the indefensible.
And there is obviously a need to bring religion into the discussion, since science so specifically disputes your claims of murder.
Unless you've developed your own little bizarro reality, the most likely place you would have gotten the tripe that you are spouting is from religion.
And since you keep avoiding the question of your religiosity, it becomes painfully obvious that my assessment is correct, and that you are simply avoiding answering in an attempt to bolster your credibility.
