Koch brothers fire back at Obama

[Dr Grump]

Why is is "speaking up" when they're attacking Obama, but "bullying" when Obama attacks them?

He's the President of the United States, you ******* moron. Protecting your First Amendment rights is his job, and he's attacking the people who pay his salary.

Jaysus ******* Christ. Do you even read the shit you post? So according to you, anybody who is in the public sector (who salaries tax payers provide) must suspend their own first amendment rights?

Your logic is illogical...

 

[Jroc]

Obama wants to choose the companies he likes, central planning from the all-powerful federal government while he makes it harder for real energy producers to operate in this country, he sends tax payers money to failed companies...


[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7OmuRrF-Uk&feature=related]obamaatsolyndra.mov - YouTube[/ame]

 

[Dr Grump]

If there is one thing liberals hate its Americans exercising their First Amendment rights.

You mean like the whiney Koch mouthpiece that is objecting to Obama exercising his? That kind of 'liberal'?

Who is the public servant and who are the private citizens whose taxes are paying him?

Last time I looked, Obama was a tax payer, too....

 

[Dr Grump]

Obama wants to choose the companies he likes, central planning from the all-powerful federal government while he makes it harder for real energy producers to operate in this country, he sends tax payers money to failed companies...


obamaatsolyndra.mov - YouTube

Oh, you want to politicise presidents and the companies they like that fail?

Three words: Ken Lay, Enron...

 

[theDoctorisIn]

Why is is "speaking up" when they're attacking Obama, but "bullying" when Obama attacks them?

He's the President of the United States, you ******* moron. Protecting your First Amendment rights is his job, and he's attacking the people who pay his salary.

He's got the same "first amendment rights" as everyone else. Becoming President doesn't change that.

 

[Jroc]

Obama wants to choose the companies he likes, central planning from the all-powerful federal government while he makes it harder for real energy producers to operate in this country, he sends tax payers money to failed companies...


obamaatsolyndra.mov - YouTube

Oh, you want to politicise presidents and the companies they like that fail?

Three words: Ken Lay, Enron...

People at Enron were prosecuted did we send them 500 million dollars of tax payers’ money less than a year before they went bankrupt?

 

[SillyWabbit]

Ahhhhhh, our old friend and enemy. . .

what would we argue about without it?

 

[theDoctorisIn]

Obama wants to choose the companies he likes, central planning from the all-powerful federal government while he makes it harder for real energy producers to operate in this country, he sends tax payers money to failed companies...


obamaatsolyndra.mov - YouTube

Oh, you want to politicise presidents and the companies they like that fail?

Three words: Ken Lay, Enron...

People at Enron were prosecuted did we send them 500 million dollars of tax payers’ money less than a year before they went bankrupt?

We sure did.

Enron: Under-Regulated or Over-Subsidized?

 

[SillyWabbit]

 

[Jroc]

Oh, you want to politicise presidents and the companies they like that fail?

Three words: Ken Lay, Enron...

People at Enron were prosecuted did we send them 500 million dollars of tax payers’ money less than a year before they went bankrupt?

We sure did.

Enron: Under-Regulated or Over-Subsidized?

From your link...

In truth, however, the problem was not the lack of government involvement with Enron, but rather the close relationship between Enron and government. Enron in fact was deeply involved with the federal government throughout the 1990s, both through its lobbying efforts and as a recipient of large amounts of corporate welfare.

Enron provides a perfect example of the dangers of corporate subsidies. The company was (and is) one of the biggest beneficiaries of Export-Import Bank subsidies. The Ex-Im bank, a program that Congress continues to fund with your tax dollars, essentially makes risky loans to foreign governments and businesses for projects involving American companies. The Bank, which purports to help developing nations, really acts as a naked subsidy for certain politically-favored American corporations- especially corporations like Enron that lobbied hard and gave huge amounts of cash to both political parties. Its reward was more that $600 million in cash via six different Ex-Im financed projects.

One such project, a power plant in India, played a big part in Enron's demise. The company had trouble selling the power to local officials, adding to its huge $618 million loss for the third quarter of 2001. Former president Clinton worked hard to secure the India deal for Enron in the mid-90s; not surprisingly, his 1996 campaign received $100,000 from the company. Yet the media makes no mention of this favoritism. Clinton may claim he was "protecting" tax dollars, but those tax dollars should never have been sent to India in the first place

 

[theDoctorisIn]

People at Enron were prosecuted did we send them 500 million dollars of tax payers’ money less than a year before they went bankrupt?

We sure did.

Enron: Under-Regulated or Over-Subsidized?

From your link...

In truth, however, the problem was not the lack of government involvement with Enron, but rather the close relationship between Enron and government. Enron in fact was deeply involved with the federal government throughout the 1990s, both through its lobbying efforts and as a recipient of large amounts of corporate welfare.

Enron provides a perfect example of the dangers of corporate subsidies. The company was (and is) one of the biggest beneficiaries of Export-Import Bank subsidies. The Ex-Im bank, a program that Congress continues to fund with your tax dollars, essentially makes risky loans to foreign governments and businesses for projects involving American companies. The Bank, which purports to help developing nations, really acts as a naked subsidy for certain politically-favored American corporations- especially corporations like Enron that lobbied hard and gave huge amounts of cash to both political parties. Its reward was more that $600 million in cash via six different Ex-Im financed projects.

One such project, a power plant in India, played a big part in Enron's demise. The company had trouble selling the power to local officials, adding to its huge $618 million loss for the third quarter of 2001. Former president Clinton worked hard to secure the India deal for Enron in the mid-90s; not surprisingly, his 1996 campaign received $100,000 from the company. Yet the media makes no mention of this favoritism. Clinton may claim he was "protecting" tax dollars, but those tax dollars should never have been sent to India in the first place

Are you trying to make some partisan point about how it was Clinton who gave Enron money? Because I don't care who gave it to them.

They received plenty of tax dollars.

 

[jillian]

All you libs sound the same, clueless clones, Obama loves idiots like you. The Koch brothers are patriots who love their country, unlike too many of you libs. They don't haft to speak out, but they fear for the direction of our country.

idiots like you are the koch brothers dream

Brilliant..Did you quote the MSNBC talking points yet today? Learn to think for yourself
I know it's hard for liberals.

once again attributing your own actions to others.

nice. idiot. you're an embarrassment.

 

[Chris]

The Koch brothers have finally been exposed, and they are running around like roaches trying to find a hiding place.

No more financing astroturf groups to do your bidding.

And your guy Koch Cain went down in flames.....

 

[Jroc]

idiots like you are the koch brothers dream

Brilliant..Did you quote the MSNBC talking points yet today? Learn to think for yourself
I know it's hard for liberals.

once again attributing your own actions to others.

nice.

Not hardly... I can't be convinced by some news network to go against what I know is the truth, simply because this news network says I am wrong. I don't sway as easily as we both know you do

 

[Jroc]

The Koch brothers have finally been exposed, and they are running around like roaches trying to find a hiding place.

No more financing astroturf groups to do your bidding.

And your guy Koch Cain went down in flames.....

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[Chris]

Because we know that the oil companies have always had our best interest at heart.

 

[Jroc]

Because we know that the oil companies have always had our best interest at heart.

They make the federal government a lot of money thats for sure.

 

[SillyWabbit]

I see. . .

 

[del]

Are the poor widdle billionaires crying about their political activities having some blowback for once? America finally knows who they are and are not that endeared to their plight of having to pay taxes and not being able to pollute as much as they want to, lousy birchers deserve their bad press and crappy public image.

Yeah....How dare they speak up, rather than take their bullying from a loutish Chicago punk like good little victims?

Why is is "speaking up" when they're attacking Obama, but "bullying" when Obama attacks them?

um, because they're not the most powerful man in the free world and he is?

just a guess

 

[SillyWabbit]

Once again, I get thrown off by image search results.

But:

Hah!