Kill the Dept of Ed because it is unconstitutional, or because it is an abject failure?

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Before the Dept of Education the US was #1 in the world. Now we're like #35. And going down from there.

There are lies, damn lies, and statistics.

When the US was "#1" there were hundreds of thousands of kids who were given no education at all. We just didn't count them.

 

[initforme]

There are lies, damn lies, and statistics.

When the US was "#1" there were hundreds of thousands of kids who were given no education at all. We just didn't count them.

Well stated. Accurate. Is everything ladt student in other nations tested and are their results based off of every student like us?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Well stated. Accurate. Is everything ladt student in other nations tested and are their results based off of every student like us?

Absolutely not. Dr. Gerald Bracey is a well-known educational statistician. I used his textbook in graduate school. He exposes the errors in testing programs like this.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

There are lies, damn lies, and statistics.

When the US was "#1" there were hundreds of thousands of kids who were given no education at all. We just didn't count them.

We didn't count anyone who wasn't being given an education l

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

We didn't count anyone who wasn't being given an education l

Exactly. We didn't educate kids with disabilities, handicaps, learning disorders or mentally retarded kids.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Exactly. We didn't educate kids with disabilities, handicaps, learning disorders or mentally retarded kids.

As it should be.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

As it should be.

You don't want to educate kids with disabilities? Did you sell your soul to the devil? I hope you got a good deal!

 

[EvilCat Breath]

You don't want to educate kids with disabilities? Did you sell your soul to the devil? I hope you got a good deal!

Where did you get that? Educate them, but don't count them. After all, when we bring out basketball rankings we don't include wheelchair basketball.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Where did you get that? Educate them, but don't count them. After all, when we bring out basketball rankings we don't include wheelchair basketball.

You said not to educate them like before.

Critics of public education don't do that.becuase it won't fit their narrative. They thrive on the bad stats.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Close Department of Education? Former schools chief Betsy DeVos makes the case. | Opinion

Former Education Secretary Betsy DeVos says Donald Trump should follow through on his plan to close the Department of Education.

www.usatoday.com

The linked article takes the former approach, while I personally like the viewpoint that the Department - its very existence - is unconstitutional, as Education is not among the powers enumerated in Article I for Congress.

What do yinz think?

C. Both of the above

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Now we aren't educating anyone.

 

[Sparker]

Or because we can't afford it. Like most of the federal government, it definitely will be reduced in budget and personnel. It may eventually be reduced to zero. It has a short amount of time to prove it is still worth some of our money.