Kid who put noose on statue of black man gets 6 months in prison

[ChrisL]

This is stupid and you are a *****.

If it were so stupid you'd be making an argument as to why, instead of insulting people....... but you're insulting people, so I'd have to ask why.

Because it is a cowardly way of thinking and doing things.

So you're insulting people because "it is a cowardly way of thinking"????

Basically, you want a police state, like a traitor to the American people.

Basically you're attacking again and not making a point at all. Knock it off, this is getting ridiculous and I don't tend to put up with such crap.

That's what you are though. Traitor.

 

[Asclepias]

Probably. If you show me examples of inciting violence then I'd more than likely say yes.

What about this? Should the police go bust down his door and arrest him and make him serve some prison time?

Oh definitely.

Are you suggesting that normally functioning people would go out and murder other people because of what someone else says or does? Or do you think that a person who would act on such suggestions is more than likely mentally ill and could be set off by anything at anytime or anywhere?

If you are going to go this route, then you must realize the POWER such a thing would have and the power and authority it would give government over how we are allowed to even THINK or express ourselves!!!!

Yes, I am. I only need show you Nazi Germany as a perfect example of this.

They've done psychological tests on people and found that people will do what they're told.

I could point to Rwanda, Burundi, former Yugoslavia, Cambodia and many, MANY other places where "normal functioning people" went out and murdered other people. It's sad, but it happens.

However with general society many people do have self control. But some don't. If you incite a slightly mentally ill person to go kill people, and they go kill someone, are you not guilty?

That is completely different circumstances, places, situations! Apples and oranges! This kid hung a noose on a statue. Nothing more. Nobody was killed, and hanging a noose on a statue does not mean that a person wants that to happen. Just like Ice Tea doesn't necessarily want to kill any cops.

So now your claim is that a crime is not committed unless someone is killed?

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

Kid who put noose on statue of black man gets 6 months in prison. If Burning a Flag is free speech, why isn't this?

OH! That would be "Relativism". It's a perversion of human reasoning, which destroys the process essential to the service of justice.

 

[ChrisL]

If it were so stupid you'd be making an argument as to why, instead of insulting people....... but you're insulting people, so I'd have to ask why.

Because it is a cowardly way of thinking and doing things.

So you're insulting people because "it is a cowardly way of thinking"????

Basically, you want a police state, like a traitor to the American people.

Basically you're attacking again and not making a point at all. Knock it off, this is getting ridiculous and I don't tend to put up with such crap.

When she has no valid premise...she attacks out of frustration.

Sure I do. The Constitution of the United States. Maybe you should read up on that?

 

[Asclepias]

Because it is a cowardly way of thinking and doing things.

So you're insulting people because "it is a cowardly way of thinking"????

Basically, you want a police state, like a traitor to the American people.

Basically you're attacking again and not making a point at all. Knock it off, this is getting ridiculous and I don't tend to put up with such crap.

When she has no valid premise...she attacks out of frustration.

Sure I do. The Constitution of the United States. Maybe you should read up on that?

The constitution doesnt say anything about how long someone is convicted for a crime. If it is why dont you link to it?

 

[ChrisL]

Shut up. The government could use that against anyone about anything, stupid arse.

I guess Ice Tea should have served time for inciting violence against the police?

I can never get through that song because the guitars irritate me. From what I heard he was professing how much he hates the LA PD and wishes he could kill them. He wasnt inciting anyone. Stop being a damn nitwit.

What annoys me is when you are so inflamed by your racism, that you would actually advocate for a police state. Put your issue aside and look at the bigger picture here and exactly WHAT it is you are advocating for. As citizens, black, white or purple, we all need to stick together on shit like this. This "crime" is certainly not worth a 6-month jail sentence, even if you are offended by it! That is going too far!

Youre arguing again even when you said you wouldn't. Your opinion is noted but my opinion is more important to me than yours. I dont advocate for a police state. I hate cops. I said they little prick should have gotten more time or gotten his ass beat. I'm fine with either one that teaches him respect.

Another stupid and ignorant comment that shows how little you understand how complicated these little issues can be. To you, it's all about black versus white. That is the ONLY way you can think.

I like when you tell me how I think. Its like you fancy yourself a mind reader. This always makes my day.

You don't have to read minds to know that you are a dummy.

 

[Asclepias]

I can never get through that song because the guitars irritate me. From what I heard he was professing how much he hates the LA PD and wishes he could kill them. He wasnt inciting anyone. Stop being a damn nitwit.

What annoys me is when you are so inflamed by your racism, that you would actually advocate for a police state. Put your issue aside and look at the bigger picture here and exactly WHAT it is you are advocating for. As citizens, black, white or purple, we all need to stick together on shit like this. This "crime" is certainly not worth a 6-month jail sentence, even if you are offended by it! That is going too far!

Youre arguing again even when you said you wouldn't. Your opinion is noted but my opinion is more important to me than yours. I dont advocate for a police state. I hate cops. I said they little prick should have gotten more time or gotten his ass beat. I'm fine with either one that teaches him respect.

Another stupid and ignorant comment that shows how little you understand how complicated these little issues can be. To you, it's all about black versus white. That is the ONLY way you can think.

I like when you tell me how I think. Its like you fancy yourself a mind reader. This always makes my day.

You don't have to read minds to know that you are a dummy.

You do have to at least know how to read to make that determination.

 

[ChrisL]

What annoys me is when you are so inflamed by your racism, that you would actually advocate for a police state. Put your issue aside and look at the bigger picture here and exactly WHAT it is you are advocating for. As citizens, black, white or purple, we all need to stick together on shit like this. This "crime" is certainly not worth a 6-month jail sentence, even if you are offended by it! That is going too far!

Youre arguing again even when you said you wouldn't. Your opinion is noted but my opinion is more important to me than yours. I dont advocate for a police state. I hate cops. I said they little prick should have gotten more time or gotten his ass beat. I'm fine with either one that teaches him respect.

Another stupid and ignorant comment that shows how little you understand how complicated these little issues can be. To you, it's all about black versus white. That is the ONLY way you can think.

I like when you tell me how I think. Its like you fancy yourself a mind reader. This always makes my day.

You don't have to read minds to know that you are a dummy.

You do have to at least know how to read to make that determination.

You should learn to read then. That would be helpful when trying to explain things to you.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Probably. If you show me examples of inciting violence then I'd more than likely say yes.

What about this? Should the police go bust down his door and arrest him and make him serve some prison time?

Oh definitely.

Are you suggesting that normally functioning people would go out and murder other people because of what someone else says or does? Or do you think that a person who would act on such suggestions is more than likely mentally ill and could be set off by anything at anytime or anywhere?

If you are going to go this route, then you must realize the POWER such a thing would have and the power and authority it would give government over how we are allowed to even THINK or express ourselves!!!!

Yes, I am. I only need show you Nazi Germany as a perfect example of this.

They've done psychological tests on people and found that people will do what they're told.

I could point to Rwanda, Burundi, former Yugoslavia, Cambodia and many, MANY other places where "normal functioning people" went out and murdered other people. It's sad, but it happens.

However with general society many people do have self control. But some don't. If you incite a slightly mentally ill person to go kill people, and they go kill someone, are you not guilty?

That is completely different circumstances, places, situations! Apples and oranges! This kid hung a noose on a statue. Nothing more. Nobody was killed, and hanging a noose on a statue does not mean that a person wants that to happen. Just like Ice Tea doesn't necessarily want to kill any cops.

Oh, wow, we've managed to go from attacking to the "it's a different place therefore it cannot be compared".

I'm sorry, what's different about people in Germany, Rwanda, Cambodia that's different to America? Oh, wait, Americans went about enslaving black people, killing Native Americans, even now the US goes off every so often (with a Rep Pres) killing people.
There are enough people with mental illness in the US that someone inciting people they don't know, on the internet for example, that a killing could take place.

Americans aren't different to other people. I gave some extreme examples, but they are examples that SHOW that people will do anything when they're convinced of something. If "decent white folk" went off a lynching, then anything can happen.

It's HUMAN NATURE. Psychological studies have proven it.

Psychologists Find that Nice People Are More Likely to Hurt You

"
Psychologists Find that Nice People Are More Likely to Hurt You"

"
People who are agreeable are also more likely to make destructive choices, if they think doing so will help them conform to social expectations. That's the finding of psychologists, who suggest that disagreeable, ornery people may be more helpful than we think.

Researchers recently conducted a version of Stanley Milgram's famous obedience experiments, where people were asked by doctors to "shock" others until they died. Only later did they discover they people they'd "killed" were just actors. A surprising number of otherwise kindly people "killed" others, just because they'd been given orders.

In revisiting the experiment, researchers have found evidence that agreeable people will often choose to do destructive things because they don't want to upset anyone by disagreeing with direct orders."

 

[Asclepias]

Youre arguing again even when you said you wouldn't. Your opinion is noted but my opinion is more important to me than yours. I dont advocate for a police state. I hate cops. I said they little prick should have gotten more time or gotten his ass beat. I'm fine with either one that teaches him respect.

Another stupid and ignorant comment that shows how little you understand how complicated these little issues can be. To you, it's all about black versus white. That is the ONLY way you can think.

I like when you tell me how I think. Its like you fancy yourself a mind reader. This always makes my day.

You don't have to read minds to know that you are a dummy.

You do have to at least know how to read to make that determination.

You should learn to read then. That would be helpful when trying to explain things to you.

Nothing can help making sense of your diatribes.

 

[ChrisL]

What about this? Should the police go bust down his door and arrest him and make him serve some prison time?

Oh definitely.

Are you suggesting that normally functioning people would go out and murder other people because of what someone else says or does? Or do you think that a person who would act on such suggestions is more than likely mentally ill and could be set off by anything at anytime or anywhere?

If you are going to go this route, then you must realize the POWER such a thing would have and the power and authority it would give government over how we are allowed to even THINK or express ourselves!!!!

Yes, I am. I only need show you Nazi Germany as a perfect example of this.

They've done psychological tests on people and found that people will do what they're told.

I could point to Rwanda, Burundi, former Yugoslavia, Cambodia and many, MANY other places where "normal functioning people" went out and murdered other people. It's sad, but it happens.

However with general society many people do have self control. But some don't. If you incite a slightly mentally ill person to go kill people, and they go kill someone, are you not guilty?

That is completely different circumstances, places, situations! Apples and oranges! This kid hung a noose on a statue. Nothing more. Nobody was killed, and hanging a noose on a statue does not mean that a person wants that to happen. Just like Ice Tea doesn't necessarily want to kill any cops.

Oh, wow, we've managed to go from attacking to the "it's a different place therefore it cannot be compared".

I'm sorry, what's different about people in Germany, Rwanda, Cambodia that's different to America? Oh, wait, Americans went about enslaving black people, killing Native Americans, even now the US goes off every so often (with a Rep Pres) killing people.
There are enough people with mental illness in the US that someone inciting people they don't know, on the internet for example, that a killing could take place.

Americans aren't different to other people. I gave some extreme examples, but they are examples that SHOW that people will do anything when they're convinced of something. If "decent white folk" went off a lynching, then anything can happen.

It's HUMAN NATURE. Psychological studies have proven it.

Psychologists Find that Nice People Are More Likely to Hurt You

"
Psychologists Find that Nice People Are More Likely to Hurt You"

"
People who are agreeable are also more likely to make destructive choices, if they think doing so will help them conform to social expectations. That's the finding of psychologists, who suggest that disagreeable, ornery people may be more helpful than we think.

Researchers recently conducted a version of Stanley Milgram's famous obedience experiments, where people were asked by doctors to "shock" others until they died. Only later did they discover they people they'd "killed" were just actors. A surprising number of otherwise kindly people "killed" others, just because they'd been given orders.

In revisiting the experiment, researchers have found evidence that agreeable people will often choose to do destructive things because they don't want to upset anyone by disagreeing with direct orders."

YOU are making this incident into something that it is not. You are blowing it way out of proportion and you sound ridiculous.

 

[ChrisL]

Another stupid and ignorant comment that shows how little you understand how complicated these little issues can be. To you, it's all about black versus white. That is the ONLY way you can think.

I like when you tell me how I think. Its like you fancy yourself a mind reader. This always makes my day.

You don't have to read minds to know that you are a dummy.

You do have to at least know how to read to make that determination.

You should learn to read then. That would be helpful when trying to explain things to you.

Nothing can help making sense of your diatribes.

Of course, logic and knowledge are foreign concepts to the insane. Lol.

 

[frigidweirdo]

If it were so stupid you'd be making an argument as to why, instead of insulting people....... but you're insulting people, so I'd have to ask why.

Because it is a cowardly way of thinking and doing things.

So you're insulting people because "it is a cowardly way of thinking"????

Basically, you want a police state, like a traitor to the American people.

Basically you're attacking again and not making a point at all. Knock it off, this is getting ridiculous and I don't tend to put up with such crap.

When she has no valid premise...she attacks out of frustration.

And she's not the only one. I see it all the time on this forum. Quite sad that grown adults haven't learned to actually learn stuff from others on the internet, and feel the need to save face like that.

 

[ChrisL]

Because it is a cowardly way of thinking and doing things.

So you're insulting people because "it is a cowardly way of thinking"????

Basically, you want a police state, like a traitor to the American people.

Basically you're attacking again and not making a point at all. Knock it off, this is getting ridiculous and I don't tend to put up with such crap.

When she has no valid premise...she attacks out of frustration.

And she's not the only one. I see it all the time on this forum. Quite sad that grown adults haven't learned to actually learn stuff from others on the internet, and feel the need to save face like that.

Learn from someone who wants to jail an American citizen for 6 months for putting a noose on a statue? Good grief! You're insane.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Oh definitely.

Are you suggesting that normally functioning people would go out and murder other people because of what someone else says or does? Or do you think that a person who would act on such suggestions is more than likely mentally ill and could be set off by anything at anytime or anywhere?

If you are going to go this route, then you must realize the POWER such a thing would have and the power and authority it would give government over how we are allowed to even THINK or express ourselves!!!!

Yes, I am. I only need show you Nazi Germany as a perfect example of this.

They've done psychological tests on people and found that people will do what they're told.

I could point to Rwanda, Burundi, former Yugoslavia, Cambodia and many, MANY other places where "normal functioning people" went out and murdered other people. It's sad, but it happens.

However with general society many people do have self control. But some don't. If you incite a slightly mentally ill person to go kill people, and they go kill someone, are you not guilty?

That is completely different circumstances, places, situations! Apples and oranges! This kid hung a noose on a statue. Nothing more. Nobody was killed, and hanging a noose on a statue does not mean that a person wants that to happen. Just like Ice Tea doesn't necessarily want to kill any cops.

Oh, wow, we've managed to go from attacking to the "it's a different place therefore it cannot be compared".

I'm sorry, what's different about people in Germany, Rwanda, Cambodia that's different to America? Oh, wait, Americans went about enslaving black people, killing Native Americans, even now the US goes off every so often (with a Rep Pres) killing people.
There are enough people with mental illness in the US that someone inciting people they don't know, on the internet for example, that a killing could take place.

Americans aren't different to other people. I gave some extreme examples, but they are examples that SHOW that people will do anything when they're convinced of something. If "decent white folk" went off a lynching, then anything can happen.

It's HUMAN NATURE. Psychological studies have proven it.

Psychologists Find that Nice People Are More Likely to Hurt You

"
Psychologists Find that Nice People Are More Likely to Hurt You"

"
People who are agreeable are also more likely to make destructive choices, if they think doing so will help them conform to social expectations. That's the finding of psychologists, who suggest that disagreeable, ornery people may be more helpful than we think.

Researchers recently conducted a version of Stanley Milgram's famous obedience experiments, where people were asked by doctors to "shock" others until they died. Only later did they discover they people they'd "killed" were just actors. A surprising number of otherwise kindly people "killed" others, just because they'd been given orders.

In revisiting the experiment, researchers have found evidence that agreeable people will often choose to do destructive things because they don't want to upset anyone by disagreeing with direct orders."

YOU are making this incident into something that it is not. You are blowing it way out of proportion and you sound ridiculous.

No, I'm making it EXACTLY what it is.

Some kid went and did something that could have caused great problems.

Look at Ferguson and other such incidents that are happening all around the country because inept governments are failing to do their jobs properly, and they're causing a massive social divide which is a tinderbox of violence and unrest.

You go do something that incites some of these people, and what could happen?

Putting a noose around a black person is a massively sensitive issue. If you can't see that then I'm sorry your mind is so closed.

 

[Asclepias]

I like when you tell me how I think. Its like you fancy yourself a mind reader. This always makes my day.

You don't have to read minds to know that you are a dummy.

You do have to at least know how to read to make that determination.

You should learn to read then. That would be helpful when trying to explain things to you.

Nothing can help making sense of your diatribes.

Of course, logic and knowledge are foreign concepts to the insane. Lol.

I see you are doing some deep self introspection. I commend you on your observations regarding your mental state.

 

[ChrisL]

Are you suggesting that normally functioning people would go out and murder other people because of what someone else says or does? Or do you think that a person who would act on such suggestions is more than likely mentally ill and could be set off by anything at anytime or anywhere?

If you are going to go this route, then you must realize the POWER such a thing would have and the power and authority it would give government over how we are allowed to even THINK or express ourselves!!!!

Yes, I am. I only need show you Nazi Germany as a perfect example of this.

They've done psychological tests on people and found that people will do what they're told.

I could point to Rwanda, Burundi, former Yugoslavia, Cambodia and many, MANY other places where "normal functioning people" went out and murdered other people. It's sad, but it happens.

However with general society many people do have self control. But some don't. If you incite a slightly mentally ill person to go kill people, and they go kill someone, are you not guilty?

That is completely different circumstances, places, situations! Apples and oranges! This kid hung a noose on a statue. Nothing more. Nobody was killed, and hanging a noose on a statue does not mean that a person wants that to happen. Just like Ice Tea doesn't necessarily want to kill any cops.

Oh, wow, we've managed to go from attacking to the "it's a different place therefore it cannot be compared".

I'm sorry, what's different about people in Germany, Rwanda, Cambodia that's different to America? Oh, wait, Americans went about enslaving black people, killing Native Americans, even now the US goes off every so often (with a Rep Pres) killing people.
There are enough people with mental illness in the US that someone inciting people they don't know, on the internet for example, that a killing could take place.

Americans aren't different to other people. I gave some extreme examples, but they are examples that SHOW that people will do anything when they're convinced of something. If "decent white folk" went off a lynching, then anything can happen.

It's HUMAN NATURE. Psychological studies have proven it.

Psychologists Find that Nice People Are More Likely to Hurt You

"
Psychologists Find that Nice People Are More Likely to Hurt You"

"
People who are agreeable are also more likely to make destructive choices, if they think doing so will help them conform to social expectations. That's the finding of psychologists, who suggest that disagreeable, ornery people may be more helpful than we think.

Researchers recently conducted a version of Stanley Milgram's famous obedience experiments, where people were asked by doctors to "shock" others until they died. Only later did they discover they people they'd "killed" were just actors. A surprising number of otherwise kindly people "killed" others, just because they'd been given orders.

In revisiting the experiment, researchers have found evidence that agreeable people will often choose to do destructive things because they don't want to upset anyone by disagreeing with direct orders."

YOU are making this incident into something that it is not. You are blowing it way out of proportion and you sound ridiculous.

No, I'm making it EXACTLY what it is.

Some kid went and did something that could have caused great problems.

Look at Ferguson and other such incidents that are happening all around the country because inept governments are failing to do their jobs properly, and they're causing a massive social divide which is a tinderbox of violence and unrest.

You go do something that incites some of these people, and what could happen?

Putting a noose around a black person is a massively sensitive issue. If you can't see that then I'm sorry your mind is so closed.

And so could a movie, and so could a song, and so could a video game. Fool.

 

[frigidweirdo]

So you're insulting people because "it is a cowardly way of thinking"????

Basically, you want a police state, like a traitor to the American people.

Basically you're attacking again and not making a point at all. Knock it off, this is getting ridiculous and I don't tend to put up with such crap.

When she has no valid premise...she attacks out of frustration.

And she's not the only one. I see it all the time on this forum. Quite sad that grown adults haven't learned to actually learn stuff from others on the internet, and feel the need to save face like that.

Learn from someone who wants to jail an American citizen for 6 months for putting a noose on a statue? Good grief! You're insane.

No, I'm not insane. I just understand how things work a little better than you do.

You see a black dude shouting for others to kill white people. You see a problem.
You see a white kid doing something that could incite people to violence. You don't see a problem.

Blacks are problems are whites are upstanding members of the community. It's literally black and white to you.

 

[ChrisL]

As a matter of fact, plenty of people have cited movies/songs as inspiration to commit murders. Also, other murderers.

 

[Asclepias]

Yes, I am. I only need show you Nazi Germany as a perfect example of this.

They've done psychological tests on people and found that people will do what they're told.

I could point to Rwanda, Burundi, former Yugoslavia, Cambodia and many, MANY other places where "normal functioning people" went out and murdered other people. It's sad, but it happens.

However with general society many people do have self control. But some don't. If you incite a slightly mentally ill person to go kill people, and they go kill someone, are you not guilty?

That is completely different circumstances, places, situations! Apples and oranges! This kid hung a noose on a statue. Nothing more. Nobody was killed, and hanging a noose on a statue does not mean that a person wants that to happen. Just like Ice Tea doesn't necessarily want to kill any cops.

Oh, wow, we've managed to go from attacking to the "it's a different place therefore it cannot be compared".

I'm sorry, what's different about people in Germany, Rwanda, Cambodia that's different to America? Oh, wait, Americans went about enslaving black people, killing Native Americans, even now the US goes off every so often (with a Rep Pres) killing people.
There are enough people with mental illness in the US that someone inciting people they don't know, on the internet for example, that a killing could take place.

Americans aren't different to other people. I gave some extreme examples, but they are examples that SHOW that people will do anything when they're convinced of something. If "decent white folk" went off a lynching, then anything can happen.

It's HUMAN NATURE. Psychological studies have proven it.

Psychologists Find that Nice People Are More Likely to Hurt You

"
Psychologists Find that Nice People Are More Likely to Hurt You"

"
People who are agreeable are also more likely to make destructive choices, if they think doing so will help them conform to social expectations. That's the finding of psychologists, who suggest that disagreeable, ornery people may be more helpful than we think.

Researchers recently conducted a version of Stanley Milgram's famous obedience experiments, where people were asked by doctors to "shock" others until they died. Only later did they discover they people they'd "killed" were just actors. A surprising number of otherwise kindly people "killed" others, just because they'd been given orders.

In revisiting the experiment, researchers have found evidence that agreeable people will often choose to do destructive things because they don't want to upset anyone by disagreeing with direct orders."

YOU are making this incident into something that it is not. You are blowing it way out of proportion and you sound ridiculous.

No, I'm making it EXACTLY what it is.

Some kid went and did something that could have caused great problems.

Look at Ferguson and other such incidents that are happening all around the country because inept governments are failing to do their jobs properly, and they're causing a massive social divide which is a tinderbox of violence and unrest.

You go do something that incites some of these people, and what could happen?

Putting a noose around a black person is a massively sensitive issue. If you can't see that then I'm sorry your mind is so closed.

And so could a movie, and so could a song, and so could a video game. Fool.

Typically the people that make the movie song or video games own them. This little retard didnt own the statue. It was vandalism that could have resulted in a riot. You are using a logical fallacy called false equivalence.