khan 🇷🇺 Putin loses Baltic powers as Finland deploys joint taskforce to Baltic sea

Who knows? Pretty soon, I believe.
bs, your 🇷🇺 horde has never attacked A NATO STATE , i ´ll ask you again, how often your ethnic Muscovite🇷🇺 buddies have called you zhidyonok or zhid , we both know that they do call you zhidyonok & zhid very often , so you dont need to lie to me. just tell the truth

 
As if Russia can't eliminate Baltic piracy.
Anyway, its a game for two.
Russian ships can't even leave their ports. The Baltic fleet isn't any better than the Black Sea fleet. The only "pirates" in the Baltic are the illegal Russian tankers trying to evade the UN and USA sanctions.
 
Russian ships can't even leave their ports.
Of course they can, and they do.

The Baltic fleet isn't any better than the Black Sea fleet.
They don't need better than Black Sea fleet, especially if we are talking not about "special operation", but abour "regional war". It's not a big deal to burn down some European military bases by tactical nukes.

The only "pirates" in the Baltic are the illegal Russian tankers trying to evade the UN and USA sanctions.
They are not pirates, not yet.Those, who attacked civilian cargo ships in the open sea - they are. But a private military company, registered somewhere in Singapore with Russian Letter of Marque - can easily attack Baltic cargo ships, military ships (who are in the list of pirates), ports and other infrastructure and not only in Baltic. Why not (especially if we are talking about "operations", not "wars")?
 
Of course they can, and they do.


They don't need better than Black Sea fleet, especially if we are talking not about "special operation", but abour "regional war". It's not a big deal to burn down some European military bases by tactical nukes.


They are not pirates, not yet.Those, who attacked civilian cargo ships in the open sea - they are. But a private military company, registered somewhere in Singapore with Russian Letter of Marque - can easily attack Baltic cargo ships, military ships (who are in the list of pirates), ports and other infrastructure and not only in Baltic. Why not (especially if we are talking about "operations", not "wars")?
Letters of Marque and Reprisal have been illegal since the Paris Declaration of 1856. That's why the Confederacy didn't use privateers in the ACW. As usual you are making yourself look stupid. Letters OF Marque were only protection for the privateer if he captured a ship of a nation AT WAR with the issuing nation. You go on and on that the "special operation" is NOT a war. Your PMC would be actual pirates and subject to execution by any nation that captured them.
 
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Letters of Marque and Reprisal have been illegal since the Paris Declaration of 1856.
So is interception of neutral cargo ships in neutral waters. If one side violate Naval laws - the other easily can do either. As I said - officially supported piracy is the game for two.
But, as I've read, Western decision-makers intended to make few steps back. They more or less officially declared that all those dameges were "accidents". Nobody to blame.
 
So is interception of neutral cargo ships in neutral waters. If one side violate Naval laws - the other easily can do either. As I said - officially supported piracy is the game for two.
But, as I've read, Western decision-makers intended to make few steps back. They more or less officially declared that all those dameges were "accidents". Nobody to blame.
One key difference is that the western powers have the power to enforce the embargo and Russia doesn't. Once a couple of PMC crews are hung for piracy, no one will take Moscow's money. That's the reason Khruschev backed down about putting missiles in Cuba, the USA had the naval power to enforce the blockade, and Russia lacked the power to force passage. The USA is a naval power and Russia isn't.
 
One key difference is that the western powers have the power to enforce the embargo and Russia doesn't. Once a couple of PMC crews are hung for piracy, no one will take Moscow's money. That's the reason Khruschev backed down about putting missiles in Cuba, the USA had the naval power to enforce the blockade, and Russia lacked the power to force passage. The USA is a naval power and Russia isn't.
 
Russian ships can't even leave their ports. The Baltic fleet isn't any better than the Black Sea fleet. The only "pirates" in the Baltic are the illegal Russian tankers trying to evade the UN and USA sanctions.
+1,
This issue came to light in May 2023, when an unregistered 18-year-old shadow tanker carrying 340,000 barrels of Russian oil lost engine power and almost ran aground whilst passing through the narrow Danish Straits. Then on 26 December last year, Finnish police boarded the Eagle S, due to suspicious activity monitored on Christmas Day. On board they found “spy equipment used for monitoring NATO naval and aircraft activities”. Upon further investigation, Eagle S was found to have dragged her anchor for 60 miles to sever the EstLink 2 subsea cable supplying electricity from Finland to Estonia and four other communication links. As a result, ten nations including Sweden, Norway, Finland, the three Baltic states, Germany, Demark, Poland and the UK will participate in NATO’s latest mission, Operation Baltic Sentry, announced on 14 January, “to prevent destabilising acts, track the shadow fleet and safeguard undersea infrastructure, utilising possible boarding, impounding, and arrest.”
 
One key difference is that the western powers have the power to enforce the embargo and Russia doesn't.
Embargo means war. And the war means that many western ports will be destroyed by nukes.


Once a couple of PMC crews are hung for piracy, no one will take Moscow's money.
People love money, and the risk is pretty small (especially if we are talking about "operation", not "war").

That's the reason Khruschev backed down about putting missiles in Cuba, the USA had the naval power to enforce the blockade, and Russia lacked the power to force passage.
No. There were two main reasons - Russia didn't delivered all R-14s necessary for reliable counter-force strike against the US nuclear forces. And the USA suggested mutually acceptable solution - Russia remove missiles from Cuba, the USA remove missiles from Turkey and Europe.
The USA is a naval power and Russia isn't.
Any naval power depends on the land. And, what is even more important in the XXI century - Russia has upper hand in missiles and nukes.
 
Embargo means war. And the war means that many western ports will be destroyed by nukes.



People love money, and the risk is pretty small (especially if we are talking about "operation", not "war").


No. There were two main reasons - Russia didn't delivered all R-14s necessary for reliable counter-force strike against the US nuclear forces. And the USA suggested mutually acceptable solution - Russia remove missiles from Cuba, the USA remove missiles from Turkey and Europe.

Any naval power depends on the land. And, what is even more important in the XXI century - Russia has upper hand in missiles and nukes.
Russia has been under an embargo for three years now and hasn't been able to do a damned thing about it. Putin and his kleptocratic oligarchical friends have had their properties, yachts and money seized by the west.

If you think Khruschev didn't fail to deliver all the needed missiles because of the blockade you are an idiot. Yes, Kennedy compromised by removing the missiles from Turkey rather than fight a war. Another item of your idiocy, the MRBM R-14s WERE NOT a counter force missile their CEP was too large "

1.13–2.4 km (0.70–1.49 mi) CEP[2][5]"
They were city busters carrying a single one megaton warhead. Both the US Thor and Jupiter carried warheads nearly twice as powerful, and their CEP dropped right in the middle of the CEP claimed by Russia. Based upon historical evidence that Russia always overpromoted it's weapons the R-14 CEP was probably two or three time as large as claimed.
 
Embargo means war. And the war means that many western ports will be destroyed by nukes.



People love money, and the risk is pretty small (especially if we are talking about "operation", not "war").


No. There were two main reasons - Russia didn't delivered all R-14s necessary for reliable counter-force strike against the US nuclear forces. And the USA suggested mutually acceptable solution - Russia remove missiles from Cuba, the USA remove missiles from Turkey and Europe.

Any naval power depends on the land. And, what is even more important in the XXI century - Russia has upper hand in missiles and nukes.
Oh, Russia didn't deliver ANY R-14s to Cuba, just the warheads. The blockade prevented the missiled from being anded. It was SA-2 SAMs that caught the CIA's eye on recon overflights of Cuba. Their launcher/command unit arrangement was both obvious and distinctive.
 
Russia has been under an embargo for three years now and hasn't been able to do a damned thing about it.
In fact, Russia wasn't embargoed by anybody significant.

Putin and his kleptocratic oligarchical friends have had their properties, yachts and money seized by the west.
Not seized, but borrowed, and, I'm almost sure they will return it all with excuses. I myself have some property freezed in Italy, and I know, that the first thing I'll do in the case of more or less normalisation of Russia-Italian relationships - I'll send the person responsible for it to make a swim in concrete flippers (and then his heirs will return it to me at least with double price fine and excuses).

If you think Khruschev didn't fail to deliver all the needed missiles because of the blockade you are an idiot.
Not so because of blockade per se, but because of being too slow. But Carribbean and Baltics are two pretty different seas.
Yes, Kennedy compromised by removing the missiles from Turkey rather than fight a war.
Yep. May be, Trump will be smart enough to withdraw American forces from Eastern Europe, too. But more likely he won't, and, hence, there will be a war.

Another item of your idiocy, the MRBM R-14s WERE NOT a counter force missile their CEP was too large "
American missile bases those days were pretty soft and vulnerable targets. Thats why R-14 had that powerful warheads. 5 km from 1 megaton burst is pretty inside the radius of total destruction for non-siloed, liquid fuelled missiles. And we don't need to speculate about it. We have their orders unclassified now.


1.13–2.4 km (0.70–1.49 mi) CEP[2][5]"
They were city busters carrying a single one megaton warhead. Both the US Thor and Jupiter carried warheads nearly twice as powerful, and their CEP dropped right in the middle of the CEP claimed by Russia. Based upon historical evidence that Russia always overpromoted it's weapons the R-14 CEP was probably two or three time as large as claimed.
 
In fact, Russia wasn't embargoed by anybody significant.


Not seized, but borrowed, and, I'm almost sure they will return it all with excuses. I myself have some property freezed in Italy, and I know, that the first thing I'll do in the case of more or less normalisation of Russia-Italian relationships - I'll send the person responsible for it to make a swim in concrete flippers (and then his heirs will return it to me at least with double price fine and excuses).


Not so because of blockade per se, but because of being too slow. But Carribbean and Baltics are two pretty different seas.

Yep. May be, Trump will be smart enough to withdraw American forces from Eastern Europe, too. But more likely he won't, and, hence, there will be a war.


American missile bases those days were pretty soft and vulnerable targets. Thats why R-14 had that powerful warheads. 5 km from 1 megaton burst is pretty inside the radius of total destruction for non-siloed, liquid fuelled missiles. And we don't need to speculate about it. We have their orders unclassified now.
The American ICBM bases were in the middle of the continent far out of range of Russian missiles based in Cuba.
 
So, the Black Sea, the Med, and now the Baltic Sea. Still going according to plan, 🇷🇺 🇸🇦Dwarf?





Russia has been under an embargo for three years now and hasn't been able to do a damned thing about it. Putin and his kleptocratic oligarchical friends have had their properties, yachts and money seized by the west.

If you think Khruschev didn't fail to deliver all the needed missiles because of the blockade you are an idiot. Yes, Kennedy compromised by removing the missiles from Turkey rather than fight a war. Another item of your idiocy, the MRBM R-14s WERE NOT a counter force missile their CEP was too large "

1.13–2.4 km (0.70–1.49 mi) CEP[2][5]"
They were city busters carrying a single one megaton warhead. Both the US Thor and Jupiter carried warheads nearly twice as powerful, and their CEP dropped right in the middle of the CEP claimed by Russia. Based upon historical evidence that Russia always overpromoted it's weapons the R-14 CEP was probably two or three time as large as claimed.
The only Russian Oligarchs are the ones living in the West.
 

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