Kentucky Clerk Jailed for Contempt of Court

[mudwhistle]

There is no such thing as Christian sharia law. Just stop already, it's stupid

And again....it is running our country thru your interpretation of what your god wants....NOT on the U.S. Constitution. By supporting Kim Davis, you are supporting christian sharia law.

again...there is no such thing as Christian sharia law, you can keep spewing it but that does not make it a fact

It is what you want...christian sharia law...running our country based on YOUR interpretation of what YOUR god wants....not on the U.S. Constitution. That's why you support Kim Davis.

Again....you're using a made up term. There is no such thing. Keep spewing it but it won't change the facts

The facts are that anyone who supports Kim Davis and what she did is a supporter of christian sharia law. That is what she tried to put in place.

I think if you learned to drop your anger and forgive people for their transgressions then you might be a happier person.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

...So you support christian sharia law.

There is no such thing.

However, in the interest of fairness, we should let you go out on a limb here, and define 'Christian Sharia Law' for the audience.

Please proceed.

There most certainly is christian sharia law and you support it.....and if you don't know what it is....it is running our country thru your interpretation of what your god wants....NOT on the U.S. Consititution.

There is no such thing as Christian sharia law. Just stop already, it's stupid

Given your posting history, you're in no position to refer to anything as 'stupid.'

Yeah? I don't give a rat's ass. How's that? Now go bother someone else, tool. You're a nothing

 

[bodecea]

...So you support christian sharia law.

There is no such thing.

However, in the interest of fairness, we should let you go out on a limb here, and define 'Christian Sharia Law' for the audience.

Please proceed.

There most certainly is christian sharia law and you support it.....and if you don't know what it is....it is running our country thru your interpretation of what your god wants....NOT on the U.S. Constitution.

There is no such thing as Christian sharia law. Just stop already, it's stupid

And again....it is running our country thru your interpretation of what your god wants....NOT on the U.S. Constitution. By supporting Kim Davis, you are supporting christian sharia law.

For more than 200 years, We the People have run the United States based upon a moral and sane interpretation of the US Constitution in this context, not Religion A or B.

Very recently, five (a bare-squeaker majority) old lawyers in Washington, DC, have chosen to RE-interpret the Constitution, in the service of sexual deviancy and perversity.

Americans who will stand-up to the Gay Mafia merely strive to bring-about a RETURN to that older and saner and time-honored interpretation of the US Constitution.

You may leave the gods out of it.

Epic Fail.

But thank you for playing.

Blue laws - examples of christian sharia law that we have fortunately mostly gotten rid of. People like you moan the loss of those days. Now you support a government official who tried to reinstate a little bit of christian sharia in KY....didn't work. Hurray for the U.S. Constitution.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

There is no such thing as Christian sharia law. Just stop already, it's stupid

And again....it is running our country thru your interpretation of what your god wants....NOT on the U.S. Constitution. By supporting Kim Davis, you are supporting christian sharia law.

again...there is no such thing as Christian sharia law, you can keep spewing it but that does not make it a fact

It is what you want...christian sharia law...running our country based on YOUR interpretation of what YOUR god wants....not on the U.S. Constitution. That's why you support Kim Davis.

Again....you're using a made up term. There is no such thing. Keep spewing it but it won't change the facts

The facts are that anyone who supports Kim Davis and what she did is a supporter of christian sharia law. That is what she tried to put in place.

You can't put something into place that doesn't exist. Keep trying

 

[RodISHI]

Except it only works that way in a dictatorial tyranny....

She held the position BEFORE the law was passed. This means that the law intentionally targets people of faith.....I hope that she appeals to the SCOTUS......

And to be honest.....I really don't care what anyone on this or any forum thinks regarding this.....The day this country can pass a law that requires ME to have to alter My beliefs or behaviors is the day that that government needs to be abolished.

It spells the death of liberty.

It doesn't matter. If the judges rule in a way you think is wrong, or immoral, you resign your position and fight the fight in a legal way. You don't assume you have all the power and ignore judicial rulings. SHE was the one being dictatorial.

It appears that what you are now saying is that anyone who stands on their faith cannot be in an elected positon?

If their religion forces them to violate other peoples rights, that is correct. If a Muslim told me that I couldn't do something based on their religious views I would likewise demand that they resign their position. Other wise what you are advocating for is SHARIA law.

See how that works?

The people voted her into hat position. Judges made up something that is no where written into the constitution and now she is expected to go with the flow with her name assigned to a document that was not in place when the people voted her into that position.

I see how people capitulate so easily and give up; so many claim that they believe on the written Word and then they turn right around and what the Word says and do not stand on truth. I see when activist judges are out of control.

Now I see a woman who has true grit that refuses to be bullied by a few sick people who are more than willing to accept deviant behavior as a norm or fall away from the truth in favor of letting the unjust ride over those who disagree.

I see children in public schools assaulted with propaganda daily that all sorts of abhorrent behavior is perfectly acceptable, they really can't think or have a thought process of their own and Hitler was not really a bad guy after all.

I also see that if the people do not or are not willing to take a stand against this type of crap freedom and liberty will become a thing of the past here for a period of time until people are once again sick and tired of being ruled over by tyrants.

Then again the spirit told me that the rebellious children of Umm [sic]were brought forth and will accept their own destruction for this day and time in history.

This is as ridiculous as it is ignorant and wrong.

The Supremacy Clause is very much 'part' of the Constitution, it was the Framers' intent that state and local governments be subordinate to Federal laws, subject to the rulings of Federal courts, with the Constitution and its case law binding on the states and local jurisdictions:

'The interpretation of the Fourteenth Amendment enunciated by this Court in the Brown case is the supreme law of the land, and Art. VI of the Constitution makes it of binding effect on the States "any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding." P.358 U. S. 18.

No state legislator or executive or judicial officer can war against the Constitution without violating his solemn oath to support it. P. 358 U. S. 18.' (Cooper v. Aaron)

I don't see sodomy as a recognized protected act anywhere in that.

 

[Kondor3]

No, the ignorant, ridiculous rhetoric about 'old lawyers' in Washington 'reinterpreting' the Constitution is actually the epic fail.

Hardly. Until very recently, large numbers of States had passed Defense of Marriage referenda, only to have them overturned.

Despite what recent polls suggest --- counting people who have given-up on fighting this, alongside actual supporters - the Courts act in contravention to the Will of the People.

The People are the ultimate sovereign in this land.

Court rulings are overturned all the time.

All it takes is a little imagination and the right advocate and a more favorably-constituted court.

If a bare majority of Old Farts on the Supreme Court have seen fit to put America through this sawmill, The People will find a way to correct this abomination.

This rumble is just getting started.

Meanwhile, the observation concerning an "Epic Fail", in connection with a challenge to define "Christian Sharia Law", stands.

 

[westwall]

It doesn't matter. If the judges rule in a way you think is wrong, or immoral, you resign your position and fight the fight in a legal way. You don't assume you have all the power and ignore judicial rulings. SHE was the one being dictatorial.

It appears that what you are now saying is that anyone who stands on their faith cannot be in an elected positon?

If their religion forces them to violate other peoples rights, that is correct. If a Muslim told me that I couldn't do something based on their religious views I would likewise demand that they resign their position. Other wise what you are advocating for is SHARIA law.

See how that works?

The people voted her into hat position. Judges made up something that is no where written into the constitution and now she is expected to go with the flow with her name assigned to a document that was not in place when the people voted her into that position.

I see how people capitulate so easily and give up; so many claim that they believe on the written Word and then they turn right around and what the Word says and do not stand on truth. I see when activist judges are out of control.

Now I see a woman who has true grit that refuses to be bullied by a few sick people who are more than willing to accept deviant behavior as a norm or fall away from the truth in favor of letting the unjust ride over those who disagree.

I see children in public schools assaulted with propaganda daily that all sorts of abhorrent behavior is perfectly acceptable, they really can't think or have a thought process of their own and Hitler was not really a bad guy after all.

I also see that if the people do not or are not willing to take a stand against this type of crap freedom and liberty will become a thing of the past here for a period of time until people are once again sick and tired of being ruled over by tyrants.

Then again the spirit told me that the rebellious children of Umm [sic]were brought forth and will accept their own destruction for this day and time in history.

And you still haven't addressed the central point which in this country is no religion shall take precedence over the law of this country. If you allow a christian to impose her will on others then fully expect a duly elected Muslim to do likewise.

I did, sodomy does not take precedence over religion. It is not protected nor mention anywhere in the Constitution or the Bill of Rights; her God given rights are protected in Kentucky's Bill of Rights as a state and in the United States Constitution and Bill of Rights. Activist judges are not legislators.

Care to show me how a lesbian is going to be sodomizing her partner? For that matter many hetero couples enjoy anal sex so there you go, you have now stated that all of them are criminals. See how that works?

 

[Kondor3]

...The Declaration of Independence states that we have the right to Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness. Where in the Constitution does it deny gay marriage? Be specific.

This is immaterial to the challenge to define and articulate "Christian Sharia Law".

Nice attempt at deflection, though.

Not.

 

[ogibillm]

Sure they can. Laws like that are passed all of the time. She can not be made to violate her religious beliefs, however, as she is a ELECTED OFFICIAL, she is bound to FOLLOW the LAW. That is the oath she swore.

If she can't reconcile her beliefs with the oath she swore then her only option is to resign in protest. Generals and business executives do it all the time and so should she.

Except it only works that way in a dictatorial tyranny....

She held the position BEFORE the law was passed. This means that the law intentionally targets people of faith.....I hope that she appeals to the SCOTUS......

And to be honest.....I really don't care what anyone on this or any forum thinks regarding this.....The day this country can pass a law that requires ME to have to alter My beliefs or behaviors is the day that that government needs to be abolished.

It spells the death of liberty.

she held her position prior to the ratification of the 14th amendment?

It is NOT the 14th Amendment that is in jail for.....This reply of yours is completely inane.....

BTW...the 14th does NOT predate the 1st.....

she's in jail for violation of a court order. that court order is based on her denial of equal treatment under the law - a right guaranteed in the 14th amendment.
her first amendment rights do not allow her to violate the rights of others - and it especially doesn't give her the right to use her office to violate the rights of others.

She is in jail under religious percucution and a political prisoner.

she is not being religiously persecuted and she is not a political prisoner.

 

[RodISHI]

It appears that what you are now saying is that anyone who stands on their faith cannot be in an elected positon?

If their religion forces them to violate other peoples rights, that is correct. If a Muslim told me that I couldn't do something based on their religious views I would likewise demand that they resign their position. Other wise what you are advocating for is SHARIA law.

See how that works?

The people voted her into hat position. Judges made up something that is no where written into the constitution and now she is expected to go with the flow with her name assigned to a document that was not in place when the people voted her into that position.

I see how people capitulate so easily and give up; so many claim that they believe on the written Word and then they turn right around and what the Word says and do not stand on truth. I see when activist judges are out of control.

Now I see a woman who has true grit that refuses to be bullied by a few sick people who are more than willing to accept deviant behavior as a norm or fall away from the truth in favor of letting the unjust ride over those who disagree.

I see children in public schools assaulted with propaganda daily that all sorts of abhorrent behavior is perfectly acceptable, they really can't think or have a thought process of their own and Hitler was not really a bad guy after all.

I also see that if the people do not or are not willing to take a stand against this type of crap freedom and liberty will become a thing of the past here for a period of time until people are once again sick and tired of being ruled over by tyrants.

Then again the spirit told me that the rebellious children of Umm [sic]were brought forth and will accept their own destruction for this day and time in history.

And you still haven't addressed the central point which in this country is no religion shall take precedence over the law of this country. If you allow a christian to impose her will on others then fully expect a duly elected Muslim to do likewise.

I did, sodomy does not take precedence over religion. It is not protected nor mention anywhere in the Constitution or the Bill of Rights; her God given rights are protected in Kentucky's Bill of Rights as a state and in the United States Constitution and Bill of Rights. Activist judges are not legislators.

Care to show me how a lesbian is going to be sodomizing her partner? For that matter many hetero couples enjoy anal sex so there you go, you have now stated that all of them are criminals. See how that works?

No but you can do whatever you like in privacy. You do not have the right to pin your illnesses onto me. See how that works.

 

[westwall]

...The Declaration of Independence states that we have the right to Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness. Where in the Constitution does it deny gay marriage? Be specific.

This is immaterial to the challenge to define and articulate "Christian Sharia Law".

I don't need to. If you allow a christian to dictate law, then you are also allowing Muslims to do the same. Do you understand? Shouldn't be too hard. It is simply a fact.

 

[westwall]

If their religion forces them to violate other peoples rights, that is correct. If a Muslim told me that I couldn't do something based on their religious views I would likewise demand that they resign their position. Other wise what you are advocating for is SHARIA law.

See how that works?

The people voted her into hat position. Judges made up something that is no where written into the constitution and now she is expected to go with the flow with her name assigned to a document that was not in place when the people voted her into that position.

I see how people capitulate so easily and give up; so many claim that they believe on the written Word and then they turn right around and what the Word says and do not stand on truth. I see when activist judges are out of control.

Now I see a woman who has true grit that refuses to be bullied by a few sick people who are more than willing to accept deviant behavior as a norm or fall away from the truth in favor of letting the unjust ride over those who disagree.

I see children in public schools assaulted with propaganda daily that all sorts of abhorrent behavior is perfectly acceptable, they really can't think or have a thought process of their own and Hitler was not really a bad guy after all.

I also see that if the people do not or are not willing to take a stand against this type of crap freedom and liberty will become a thing of the past here for a period of time until people are once again sick and tired of being ruled over by tyrants.

Then again the spirit told me that the rebellious children of Umm [sic]were brought forth and will accept their own destruction for this day and time in history.

And you still haven't addressed the central point which in this country is no religion shall take precedence over the law of this country. If you allow a christian to impose her will on others then fully expect a duly elected Muslim to do likewise.

I did, sodomy does not take precedence over religion. It is not protected nor mention anywhere in the Constitution or the Bill of Rights; her God given rights are protected in Kentucky's Bill of Rights as a state and in the United States Constitution and Bill of Rights. Activist judges are not legislators.

Care to show me how a lesbian is going to be sodomizing her partner? For that matter many hetero couples enjoy anal sex so there you go, you have now stated that all of them are criminals. See how that works?

No but you can do whatever you like in privacy. You do not have the right to pin your illnesses onto me. See how that works.

And if a gay couple gets married how the hell does that affect YOU?

 

[Kondor3]

...examples of christian sharia law...

You still haven't defined it.

Never mind failing to understand... the more you use it, the more people you drive into the opposing camp.

What a marvelous self-defeating strategy.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

The people voted her into hat position. Judges made up something that is no where written into the constitution and now she is expected to go with the flow with her name assigned to a document that was not in place when the people voted her into that position.

I see how people capitulate so easily and give up; so many claim that they believe on the written Word and then they turn right around and what the Word says and do not stand on truth. I see when activist judges are out of control.

Now I see a woman who has true grit that refuses to be bullied by a few sick people who are more than willing to accept deviant behavior as a norm or fall away from the truth in favor of letting the unjust ride over those who disagree.

I see children in public schools assaulted with propaganda daily that all sorts of abhorrent behavior is perfectly acceptable, they really can't think or have a thought process of their own and Hitler was not really a bad guy after all.

I also see that if the people do not or are not willing to take a stand against this type of crap freedom and liberty will become a thing of the past here for a period of time until people are once again sick and tired of being ruled over by tyrants.

Then again the spirit told me that the rebellious children of Umm [sic]were brought forth and will accept their own destruction for this day and time in history.

And you still haven't addressed the central point which in this country is no religion shall take precedence over the law of this country. If you allow a christian to impose her will on others then fully expect a duly elected Muslim to do likewise.

I did, sodomy does not take precedence over religion. It is not protected nor mention anywhere in the Constitution or the Bill of Rights; her God given rights are protected in Kentucky's Bill of Rights as a state and in the United States Constitution and Bill of Rights. Activist judges are not legislators.

Care to show me how a lesbian is going to be sodomizing her partner? For that matter many hetero couples enjoy anal sex so there you go, you have now stated that all of them are criminals. See how that works?

No but you can do whatever you like in privacy. You do not have the right to pin your illnesses onto me. See how that works.

And if a gay couple gets married how the hell does that affect YOU?

It sure affected a certain baker and now a clerk.

 

[bodecea]

Except it only works that way in a dictatorial tyranny....

She held the position BEFORE the law was passed. This means that the law intentionally targets people of faith.....I hope that she appeals to the SCOTUS......

And to be honest.....I really don't care what anyone on this or any forum thinks regarding this.....The day this country can pass a law that requires ME to have to alter My beliefs or behaviors is the day that that government needs to be abolished.

It spells the death of liberty.

she held her position prior to the ratification of the 14th amendment?

It is NOT the 14th Amendment that is in jail for.....This reply of yours is completely inane.....

BTW...the 14th does NOT predate the 1st.....

she's in jail for violation of a court order. that court order is based on her denial of equal treatment under the law - a right guaranteed in the 14th amendment.
her first amendment rights do not allow her to violate the rights of others - and it especially doesn't give her the right to use her office to violate the rights of others.

She is in jail under religious percucution and a political prisoner.

Nope, she's in jail because she can't understand that no one can serve two masters. That and the fact that she's a useless **** who won't do her damn job.

And benefitting from nepotism too.

 

[Kondor3]

...The Declaration of Independence states that we have the right to Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness. Where in the Constitution does it deny gay marriage? Be specific.

This is immaterial to the challenge to define and articulate "Christian Sharia Law".

I don't need to. If you allow a christian to dictate law, then you are also allowing Muslims to do the same. Do you understand? Shouldn't be too hard. It is simply a fact.

If you want to use the term Christian Sharia Law, and accuse folks of supporting it, you must first define it.

If you cannot define it, then it does not exist.

However, as I've said several times in the past couple of hours...

The more you silly folks use the term Christian Sharia Law, the more people you drive into the opposing camp.

Lovely... just lovely... keep it up... you can't help yourselves... you are your own worst enemy... as your adversaries benefit from it... and laugh at your myopia.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

We can only hope that conservatives subscribing to this thread in support of Davis make up a very tiny minority of the ridiculous right.

 

[bodecea]

And again....it is running our country thru your interpretation of what your god wants....NOT on the U.S. Constitution. By supporting Kim Davis, you are supporting christian sharia law.

again...there is no such thing as Christian sharia law, you can keep spewing it but that does not make it a fact

It is what you want...christian sharia law...running our country based on YOUR interpretation of what YOUR god wants....not on the U.S. Constitution. That's why you support Kim Davis.

Again....you're using a made up term. There is no such thing. Keep spewing it but it won't change the facts

The facts are that anyone who supports Kim Davis and what she did is a supporter of christian sharia law. That is what she tried to put in place.

I think if you learned to drop your anger and forgive people for their transgressions then you might be a happier person.

What anger? I'm actually quite happy today. It is a joy to see our U.S. Constitution in action....and our secular system put in place by our Founders work so well. It doesn't always...Dred Scott and Plessy v. Ferguson for examples.

 

[bodecea]

...So you support christian sharia law.

There is no such thing.

However, in the interest of fairness, we should let you go out on a limb here, and define 'Christian Sharia Law' for the audience.

Please proceed.

There most certainly is christian sharia law and you support it.....and if you don't know what it is....it is running our country thru your interpretation of what your god wants....NOT on the U.S. Consititution.

There is no such thing as Christian sharia law. Just stop already, it's stupid

Given your posting history, you're in no position to refer to anything as 'stupid.'

Yeah? I don't give a rat's ass. How's that? Now go bother someone else, tool. You're a nothing

Gee, maybe if you learned to drop your anger.......

 

[mudwhistle]

again...there is no such thing as Christian sharia law, you can keep spewing it but that does not make it a fact

It is what you want...christian sharia law...running our country based on YOUR interpretation of what YOUR god wants....not on the U.S. Constitution. That's why you support Kim Davis.

Again....you're using a made up term. There is no such thing. Keep spewing it but it won't change the facts

The facts are that anyone who supports Kim Davis and what she did is a supporter of christian sharia law. That is what she tried to put in place.

I think if you learned to drop your anger and forgive people for their transgressions then you might be a happier person.

What anger? I'm actually quite happy today. It is a joy to see our U.S. Constitution in action....and our secular system put in place by our Founders work so well. It doesn't always...Dred Scott and Plessy v. Ferguson for examples.

I guess pushing people around and making enemies gives you a real chubby.....but I don't relish in other people's misfortune.

But that just the way I roll.