Kennedy said:

[Pamforyoursam]

Well show your disgust and don't vote then.

In the meantime you can run down to the polling booth as fast as your little feet can carry you and vote for Crooked Hillary, who is the most corrupt, dishonest, incompetent and disgusting person ever to run for President and then later on you will try to blame her failures on somebody just like you did with Obama's failures.

Early voting starts in 12 days and you are going to be seriously screwed again for another four years. My advice to you is buy that he-she blow up doll you've always wanted, the one with the extra tight pussy so your little thing can find some friction. That should get you through November at least.

 

[Flash]

You are barking up the wrong tree there Sport.

I believe in non interventionism and only a defense that protects America. Defense is one of the few legitimate functions of government. If the government needs to contract with defense companies to provide weapons for a necessary common defense then there is nothing wrong with that. I am willing to provide my fair share providing the money is spent wisely. You stupid greedy Libtads that don't pay any income taxes want other people to pay your defense bills for you, don't you?

I don't believe in any welfare, entitlements, subsidies and entitlements. For instance, I was against that jackass Obama taking taxpayer's money to bailout banks and to bailout GM and Chrysler.

"I was against that jackass Obama taking taxpayer's money to bailout banks and to bailout GM and Chrysler."

About those bailouts pard, ~90% of your fellow americans were against them to. And yet, they rolled right on through, under "both" "conservative"/rep and "liberal"/dem administrations.

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

If your point is that Republicans are just as much big government as the filthy ass Democrats then I agree. That is why I am not a Republican any more.

It is always wrong for the government to take money away from somebody that earns it and gives it somebody that didn't earn the money.It doesn't make any difference it it is farm subsidies or Obamaphones or Crooked Hillary giving money to pay off the foreign countries and corporations that contributed to her being rich. .

I'm saying that in effect you do not have two different parties, they are all the same thing.









And we are not.

The filthy ass Democrats promises bad government and always delivers bad government.

The Republicans promises good government but mostly delivers the same bad government as the filthy ass Democrats.

Our country is turning into a corrupt out of control bloated oppressive welfare state shithole. It is past the point of being fixed through the election process. Electing Republicans over filthy ass Democrats would be slightly better but not enough to make a difference.

Calm down, this is going to require a collective coherence, which explains why the system likes and foments all the anxiety and hysteria. You have been pointed at the poor, that's who the system wants you to blame; the poor took your stuff? Please, they have no power to lobby for anything.

Privatized gains versus socialized losses for the Wall Street/bankster class
Internalized profit versus externalized risk and expense for the "job creator" class
Socialism for the aristocracy veresus laissez-faire capitalism for the masses

That's your system, and the poor had no way in hell of doing that to you. What you are missing is that now the system is coming for you, they already got all they could from the poor.

You are confused.

My "system" is to have liberty and not government sponsored thievery.

My system is to have a stronger Bill of Rights that prevents someone from taking away your liberties. Liberty like being able to keep the money that you earn and not having it taken away by force and given away to the Obamaphone Lady.

That also includes not bailing out Wall Street or GM like Obama did or what whatever it is that Crooked Hillary wants to do with our tax money to pay back the support she got from the big donors.

Why don't you believe in liberty? Are you stupid or what?

 

[Fenton Lum]

"I was against that jackass Obama taking taxpayer's money to bailout banks and to bailout GM and Chrysler."

About those bailouts pard, ~90% of your fellow americans were against them to. And yet, they rolled right on through, under "both" "conservative"/rep and "liberal"/dem administrations.

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

If your point is that Republicans are just as much big government as the filthy ass Democrats then I agree. That is why I am not a Republican any more.

It is always wrong for the government to take money away from somebody that earns it and gives it somebody that didn't earn the money.It doesn't make any difference it it is farm subsidies or Obamaphones or Crooked Hillary giving money to pay off the foreign countries and corporations that contributed to her being rich. .

I'm saying that in effect you do not have two different parties, they are all the same thing.









And we are not.

The filthy ass Democrats promises bad government and always delivers bad government.

The Republicans promises good government but mostly delivers the same bad government as the filthy ass Democrats.

Our country is turning into a corrupt out of control bloated oppressive welfare state shithole. It is past the point of being fixed through the election process. Electing Republicans over filthy ass Democrats would be slightly better but not enough to make a difference.

Calm down, this is going to require a collective coherence, which explains why the system likes and foments all the anxiety and hysteria. You have been pointed at the poor, that's who the system wants you to blame; the poor took your stuff? Please, they have no power to lobby for anything.

Privatized gains versus socialized losses for the Wall Street/bankster class
Internalized profit versus externalized risk and expense for the "job creator" class
Socialism for the aristocracy veresus laissez-faire capitalism for the masses

That's your system, and the poor had no way in hell of doing that to you. What you are missing is that now the system is coming for you, they already got all they could from the poor.

You are confused.

My "system" is to have liberty and not government sponsored thievery.

My system is to have a stronger Bill of Rights that prevents someone from taking away your liberties. Liberty like being able to keep the money that you earn and not having it taken away by force and given away to the Obamaphone Lady.

That also includes not bailing out Wall Street or GM like Obama did or what whatever it is that Crooked Hillary wants to do with our tax money to pay back the support she got from the big donors.

Why don't you believe in liberty? Are you stupid or what?

Here's where america is:

Privatized gains versus socialized losses for the Wall Street/bankster class
Internalized profit versus externalized risk and expense for the "job creator" class
Socialism for the aristocracy veresus laissez-faire capitalism for the masses

And blindass partisanshit keeps us there, the entire thing - this rerigging - was utterly bipartisan.

 

[Flash]

Well show your disgust and don't vote then.

In the meantime you can run down to the polling booth as fast as your little feet can carry you and vote for Crooked Hillary, who is the most corrupt, dishonest, incompetent and disgusting person ever to run for President and then later on you will try to blame her failures on somebody just like you did with Obama's failures.

Early voting starts in 12 days and you are going to be seriously screwed again for another four years. My advice to you is buy that he-she blow up doll you've always wanted, the one with the extra tight pussy so your little thing can find some friction. That should get you through November at least.

This country has been seriously screwed for a long time. In my life time the size of government has grown in every administration.

I was born in a good country but will die in an oppressive socialist shithole thanks to you idiots that so damn stupid as to vote for bad government election after election. Do you have any plans to ever pull your head out of your ass?

 

[rightwinger]

Reagan and Bush sold us on the idea that if we took care of the yachts, all the other boats would naturally just do better

So, all the money went to the yachts and they got bigger and fancier

Meanwhile, the other boats struggled to stay afloat

Perhaps if Obama and the Democrats would let the non-yachts keep the level of fuel (i.e. take home pay) that Reagan and Bush did other boats would do more than just float.

The problem for working Americans is that their take home pay has not increased in spite of the economy adding $50 trillion in wealth in the last eight years

That is the largest rise in the tide in history and none of the smaller boats benefitted from it

Wealth in the appreciation of assets has nothing to do with the income of the masses

Yes it does when those with the wealthy insist on government subsidies while they complain they "can't afford" to pay higher wages

You do know that a tax deduction or a write off is not a subsidy don't you?

And besides not all wealthy people employ others

A tax deduction is a subsidy when you get it and others don't
If you get to deduct your two children and I don't.... then the raising of your children is being subsidized
If you write off your mortgage, your mortgage is being subsidized

Not all the wealthy employ others, but lets look at those who do. Of the $50 trillion in added national wealth, $13 trillion went to corporations and small business. The same ones who essentially have frozen wages for the last eight years. The same ones who claim raising the minimum wage will cripple them

 

[Fenton Lum]

Well show your disgust and don't vote then.

In the meantime you can run down to the polling booth as fast as your little feet can carry you and vote for Crooked Hillary, who is the most corrupt, dishonest, incompetent and disgusting person ever to run for President and then later on you will try to blame her failures on somebody just like you did with Obama's failures.

Early voting starts in 12 days and you are going to be seriously screwed again for another four years. My advice to you is buy that he-she blow up doll you've always wanted, the one with the extra tight pussy so your little thing can find some friction. That should get you through November at least.

This country has been seriously screwed for a long time. In my life time the size of government has grown in every administration.

I was born in a good country but will die in an oppressive socialist shithole thanks to you idiots that so damn stupid as to vote for bad government election after election. Do you have any plans to ever pull your head out of your ass?

You'll die in a shithole alright, but it won't have anything at all to do with socialism.

Anyway, so what are YOU going to do to make it different?

 

[Flash]

If your point is that Republicans are just as much big government as the filthy ass Democrats then I agree. That is why I am not a Republican any more.

It is always wrong for the government to take money away from somebody that earns it and gives it somebody that didn't earn the money.It doesn't make any difference it it is farm subsidies or Obamaphones or Crooked Hillary giving money to pay off the foreign countries and corporations that contributed to her being rich. .

I'm saying that in effect you do not have two different parties, they are all the same thing.









And we are not.

The filthy ass Democrats promises bad government and always delivers bad government.

The Republicans promises good government but mostly delivers the same bad government as the filthy ass Democrats.

Our country is turning into a corrupt out of control bloated oppressive welfare state shithole. It is past the point of being fixed through the election process. Electing Republicans over filthy ass Democrats would be slightly better but not enough to make a difference.

Calm down, this is going to require a collective coherence, which explains why the system likes and foments all the anxiety and hysteria. You have been pointed at the poor, that's who the system wants you to blame; the poor took your stuff? Please, they have no power to lobby for anything.

Privatized gains versus socialized losses for the Wall Street/bankster class
Internalized profit versus externalized risk and expense for the "job creator" class
Socialism for the aristocracy veresus laissez-faire capitalism for the masses

That's your system, and the poor had no way in hell of doing that to you. What you are missing is that now the system is coming for you, they already got all they could from the poor.

You are confused.

My "system" is to have liberty and not government sponsored thievery.

My system is to have a stronger Bill of Rights that prevents someone from taking away your liberties. Liberty like being able to keep the money that you earn and not having it taken away by force and given away to the Obamaphone Lady.

That also includes not bailing out Wall Street or GM like Obama did or what whatever it is that Crooked Hillary wants to do with our tax money to pay back the support she got from the big donors.

Why don't you believe in liberty? Are you stupid or what?

Here's where america is:

Privatized gains versus socialized losses for the Wall Street/bankster class
Internalized profit versus externalized risk and expense for the "job creator" class
Socialism for the aristocracy veresus laissez-faire capitalism for the masses

And blindass partisanshit keeps us there, the entire thing - this rerigging - was utterly bipartisan.

But yet you are going to vote for Crooked Hillary that is owned by Wall Street and you voted for Obama that was also funded by Wall Street and he bailed them out when they got in trouble.

You are the enemy because you are not smart enough to know what you are doing when you go vote.

Crooked Hillary is the Queen of political elite.

 

[Fenton Lum]

I'm saying that in effect you do not have two different parties, they are all the same thing.









And we are not.

The filthy ass Democrats promises bad government and always delivers bad government.

The Republicans promises good government but mostly delivers the same bad government as the filthy ass Democrats.

Our country is turning into a corrupt out of control bloated oppressive welfare state shithole. It is past the point of being fixed through the election process. Electing Republicans over filthy ass Democrats would be slightly better but not enough to make a difference.

Calm down, this is going to require a collective coherence, which explains why the system likes and foments all the anxiety and hysteria. You have been pointed at the poor, that's who the system wants you to blame; the poor took your stuff? Please, they have no power to lobby for anything.

Privatized gains versus socialized losses for the Wall Street/bankster class
Internalized profit versus externalized risk and expense for the "job creator" class
Socialism for the aristocracy veresus laissez-faire capitalism for the masses

That's your system, and the poor had no way in hell of doing that to you. What you are missing is that now the system is coming for you, they already got all they could from the poor.

You are confused.

My "system" is to have liberty and not government sponsored thievery.

My system is to have a stronger Bill of Rights that prevents someone from taking away your liberties. Liberty like being able to keep the money that you earn and not having it taken away by force and given away to the Obamaphone Lady.

That also includes not bailing out Wall Street or GM like Obama did or what whatever it is that Crooked Hillary wants to do with our tax money to pay back the support she got from the big donors.

Why don't you believe in liberty? Are you stupid or what?

Here's where america is:

Privatized gains versus socialized losses for the Wall Street/bankster class
Internalized profit versus externalized risk and expense for the "job creator" class
Socialism for the aristocracy veresus laissez-faire capitalism for the masses

And blindass partisanshit keeps us there, the entire thing - this rerigging - was utterly bipartisan.

But yet you are going to vote for Crooked Hillary that is owned by Wall Street and you voted for Obama that was also funded by Wall Street and he bailed them out when they got in trouble.

You are the enemy because you are not smart enough to know what you are doing when you go vote.

Crooked Hillary is the Queen of political elite.

Actually no, I'm not voting for her and never could, but you can't calm the fuck down for soiling yourself.

 

[Flash]

Well show your disgust and don't vote then.

In the meantime you can run down to the polling booth as fast as your little feet can carry you and vote for Crooked Hillary, who is the most corrupt, dishonest, incompetent and disgusting person ever to run for President and then later on you will try to blame her failures on somebody just like you did with Obama's failures.

Early voting starts in 12 days and you are going to be seriously screwed again for another four years. My advice to you is buy that he-she blow up doll you've always wanted, the one with the extra tight pussy so your little thing can find some friction. That should get you through November at least.

This country has been seriously screwed for a long time. In my life time the size of government has grown in every administration.

I was born in a good country but will die in an oppressive socialist shithole thanks to you idiots that so damn stupid as to vote for bad government election after election. Do you have any plans to ever pull your head out of your ass?

You'll die in a shithole alright, but it won't have anything at all to do with socialism.

Anyway, so what are YOU going to do to make it different?

When I was born the combined cost of government was less than 20% of the GDP and the economy was booming and we has hundreds of thousands less regulations than we have now.

Now we have the cost of government to be almost 40% of the GDP and more regulations than you can shake a stick at.

The country is becoming a shithole because you idiots vote to take away our liberties.

 

[Fenton Lum]

Well show your disgust and don't vote then.

In the meantime you can run down to the polling booth as fast as your little feet can carry you and vote for Crooked Hillary, who is the most corrupt, dishonest, incompetent and disgusting person ever to run for President and then later on you will try to blame her failures on somebody just like you did with Obama's failures.

Early voting starts in 12 days and you are going to be seriously screwed again for another four years. My advice to you is buy that he-she blow up doll you've always wanted, the one with the extra tight pussy so your little thing can find some friction. That should get you through November at least.

This country has been seriously screwed for a long time. In my life time the size of government has grown in every administration.

I was born in a good country but will die in an oppressive socialist shithole thanks to you idiots that so damn stupid as to vote for bad government election after election. Do you have any plans to ever pull your head out of your ass?

You'll die in a shithole alright, but it won't have anything at all to do with socialism.

Anyway, so what are YOU going to do to make it different?

When I was born the combined cost of government was less than 20% of the GDP and the economy was booming and we has hundreds of thousands less regulations than we have now.

Now we have the cost of government to be almost 40% of the GDP and more regulations than you can shake a stick at.

The country is becoming a shithole because you idiots vote to take away our liberties.

See, that's what I thought, nothing. You're one of those people who wants things to change without having to change anything about yourself.

Never gonna happen, watch. Just stick with whining/bitching, voting, and going back to the couch. Maybe some lofty substantial person will come down and hand you what you want because of your vote. You never had any liberty dumbass.

 

[Flash]

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Actually no, I'm not voting for her and never could, but you can't calm the fuck down for soiling yourself.

Who are you voting for, that dingbat Jill Stein? You sound like somebody who would. I bet you voted for this Obama asshole, didn't you? He bailed out Wall Street and corporations that you are bitching about. You were an idiot, weren't you?

 

[Fenton Lum]

[

Actually no, I'm not voting for her and never could, but you can't calm the fuck down for soiling yourself.

Who are you voting for, that dingbat Jill Stein? You sound like somebody who would. I bet you voted for this Obama asshole, didn't you? He bailed out Wall Street and corporations that you are bitching about. You were an idiot, weren't you?

All you know is partisanshit isn't it? You have no other perception of reality do you?

 

[Flash]

In the meantime you can run down to the polling booth as fast as your little feet can carry you and vote for Crooked Hillary, who is the most corrupt, dishonest, incompetent and disgusting person ever to run for President and then later on you will try to blame her failures on somebody just like you did with Obama's failures.

Early voting starts in 12 days and you are going to be seriously screwed again for another four years. My advice to you is buy that he-she blow up doll you've always wanted, the one with the extra tight pussy so your little thing can find some friction. That should get you through November at least.

This country has been seriously screwed for a long time. In my life time the size of government has grown in every administration.

I was born in a good country but will die in an oppressive socialist shithole thanks to you idiots that so damn stupid as to vote for bad government election after election. Do you have any plans to ever pull your head out of your ass?

You'll die in a shithole alright, but it won't have anything at all to do with socialism.

Anyway, so what are YOU going to do to make it different?

When I was born the combined cost of government was less than 20% of the GDP and the economy was booming and we has hundreds of thousands less regulations than we have now.

Now we have the cost of government to be almost 40% of the GDP and more regulations than you can shake a stick at.

The country is becoming a shithole because you idiots vote to take away our liberties.

See, that's what I thought, nothing. You're one of those people who wants things to change without having to change anything about yourself.

Never gonna happen, watch. Just stick with whining/bitching, voting, and going back to the couch. Maybe some lofty substantial person will come down and hand you what you want because of your vote. You never had any liberty dumbass.

You are confused.

I will vote for the person that will do what is right for this country that runs on a platform to dismantle this corrupt bloated debt ridden oppressive government. Someone that will really restore the liberty that we have lost.

In the meantime I will not participate in voting for bad government, unlike you.

 

[Flash]

[

Actually no, I'm not voting for her and never could, but you can't calm the fuck down for soiling yourself.

Who are you voting for, that dingbat Jill Stein? You sound like somebody who would. I bet you voted for this Obama asshole, didn't you? He bailed out Wall Street and corporations that you are bitching about. You were an idiot, weren't you?

All you know is partisanshit isn't it? You have no other perception of reality do you?

You need to go back and read my posts before making a fool of yourself. I am the least partisan person on this forum because. I think that there is only one party in this country. That is the party of Big Government and both Republicans and the filthy ass Democrats belong to it.

I am not voting for Trump because he is a big government Liberal. This stupid corrupt dishonest Crooked Hillary bitch is even worse.

 

[Skull Pilot]

Perhaps if Obama and the Democrats would let the non-yachts keep the level of fuel (i.e. take home pay) that Reagan and Bush did other boats would do more than just float.

The problem for working Americans is that their take home pay has not increased in spite of the economy adding $50 trillion in wealth in the last eight years

That is the largest rise in the tide in history and none of the smaller boats benefitted from it

Wealth in the appreciation of assets has nothing to do with the income of the masses

Yes it does when those with the wealthy insist on government subsidies while they complain they "can't afford" to pay higher wages

You do know that a tax deduction or a write off is not a subsidy don't you?

And besides not all wealthy people employ others

A tax deduction is a subsidy when you get it and others don't
If you get to deduct your two children and I don't.... then the raising of your children is being subsidized
If you write off your mortgage, your mortgage is being subsidized

Not all the wealthy employ others, but lets look at those who do. Of the $50 trillion in added national wealth, $13 trillion went to corporations and small business. The same ones who essentially have frozen wages for the last eight years. The same ones who claim raising the minimum wage will cripple them

No it is not and every business gets the same tax deductions and has the same rules for write offs.

And was that 13 trillion actual earnings or was it merely the appreciation of stocks?

There is a difference between income and appreciation in value

 

[deltex1]

"ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country"

Is there any democrat or liberal in the USA today that would say those words? Or is there any democrat or liberal in the USA today that believes those words?

The democrat party has become the party of huge government and dictatorial socialism. Kennedy and Truman would be republicans if they were alive today.

Yep. He also said a rising tide raises all ships. Liberals ignore this because it is the basis for supply side, or, what the modern day liberal refers to as "trickle down". Back to Kennedy, Liberals would refer to the "riding tide raising all ships" economic policy as a failure because there would be a delta in the size of the ships.....essentially, "the income gap". When the economy is booming and everyone's income is going up as well as their take home pay, Liberals double down on "income inequality" as a problem.

When has an economic policy rooted in class envy ( income redistribution) ever led to economic prosperity?

JFK said "A rising tide lifts all boats"

He didn't realize Republicans would figure out a way so that the rising tide only lifts the yachts

What you are describing is a socialist economy with a true 1 percent locked in. Reagan and Bush II rose the economic tide with their policies. Universal Home ownership was a worthwhile cause but the Democrats felt that financial controls and rules on loan limits was either "not fair" or "racist" that while many buyers could qualify for a $250,000 house, not all of those buyers could qualify for a $500,000 house.

Reagan and Bush sold us on the idea that if we took care of the yachts, all the other boats would naturally just do better

So, all the money went to the yachts and they got bigger and fancier

Meanwhile, the other boats struggled to stay afloat

The boats floated right along with the yatchs. The difference was the effort by the occupants to keep them on course and productive. Libtards make poor crew members.

 

[rightwinger]

The problem for working Americans is that their take home pay has not increased in spite of the economy adding $50 trillion in wealth in the last eight years

That is the largest rise in the tide in history and none of the smaller boats benefitted from it

Wealth in the appreciation of assets has nothing to do with the income of the masses

Yes it does when those with the wealthy insist on government subsidies while they complain they "can't afford" to pay higher wages

You do know that a tax deduction or a write off is not a subsidy don't you?

And besides not all wealthy people employ others

A tax deduction is a subsidy when you get it and others don't
If you get to deduct your two children and I don't.... then the raising of your children is being subsidized
If you write off your mortgage, your mortgage is being subsidized

Not all the wealthy employ others, but lets look at those who do. Of the $50 trillion in added national wealth, $13 trillion went to corporations and small business. The same ones who essentially have frozen wages for the last eight years. The same ones who claim raising the minimum wage will cripple them

No it is not and every business gets the same tax deductions and has the same rules for write offs.

And was that 13 trillion actual earnings or was it merely the appreciation of stocks?

There is a difference between income and appreciation in value

Suppose your business employs relatively low wage workers and maintains a big profit margin because of it.
The value of that business increases and appreciates in value

That value is not passed down to the workers

 

[Skull Pilot]

Wealth in the appreciation of assets has nothing to do with the income of the masses

Yes it does when those with the wealthy insist on government subsidies while they complain they "can't afford" to pay higher wages

You do know that a tax deduction or a write off is not a subsidy don't you?

And besides not all wealthy people employ others

A tax deduction is a subsidy when you get it and others don't
If you get to deduct your two children and I don't.... then the raising of your children is being subsidized
If you write off your mortgage, your mortgage is being subsidized

Not all the wealthy employ others, but lets look at those who do. Of the $50 trillion in added national wealth, $13 trillion went to corporations and small business. The same ones who essentially have frozen wages for the last eight years. The same ones who claim raising the minimum wage will cripple them

No it is not and every business gets the same tax deductions and has the same rules for write offs.

And was that 13 trillion actual earnings or was it merely the appreciation of stocks?

There is a difference between income and appreciation in value

Suppose your business employs relatively low wage workers and maintains a big profit margin because of it.
The value of that business increases and appreciates in value

That value is not passed down to the workers

How big of a margin do you think most businesses run?

FYI the vast majority of businesses run at single digit to about 15% margins.

 

[rightwinger]

What JFK said in the same inauguration speech where he said "Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country

 

[Skull Pilot]

What JFK said in the same inauguration speech where he said "Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country

The problem is that you think people keeping more of their own money is the same as a government subsidy