Keeping guns from criminals - liberals, what is your plan?

[candycorn]

i see gun laws are still failing. good work libs

And I see gun culture is still thriving. Good work NRA.

Not sure of course but I would bet that the parents of the kids that bring guns to schools are often overheard decrying the limp-wristed liberals who have no idea how to raise kids.

 

[candycorn]

Nor do they cause violence. As such, if you have a problem with crime, you should focus on finding anti-violence solutions, and stop worry about firearms.

So when an innocent person gets shot, there should be no recourse built into the system except to sue the shooter for compensation?

If negligent behavior caused the shooting, then filing criminal charges on the shooter and then civil action would be appropriate...if negligence was involved.

Except you're in the hospital for a few months, the assailant (if caught) is in jail earning $0.00. Likely we're not talking about a hedge fund manager as the perp to start with so good luck getting your cab fare to the hospital in the judgment much less your medical bills, pain, suffering, etc... If you're really unlucky, you're the spouse/parent of someone who goes through all of that then passes away.

Hence the need to have something built into the system to reimburse the wounded and killed and their families.

 

[Spoonman]

i see gun laws are still failing. good work libs

And I see gun culture is still thriving. Good work NRA.

Not sure of course but I would bet that the parents of the kids that bring guns to schools are often overheard decrying the limp-wristed liberals who have no idea how to raise kids.

limp wristed liberal gun laws solve no problems. gun violence rests squarely on your shoulders

 

[RetiredGySgt]

So when an innocent person gets shot, there should be no recourse built into the system except to sue the shooter for compensation?

If negligent behavior caused the shooting, then filing criminal charges on the shooter and then civil action would be appropriate...if negligence was involved.

Except you're in the hospital for a few months, the assailant (if caught) is in jail earning $0.00. Likely we're not talking about a hedge fund manager as the perp to start with so good luck getting your cab fare to the hospital in the judgment much less your medical bills, pain, suffering, etc... If you're really unlucky, you're the spouse/parent of someone who goes through all of that then passes away.

Hence the need to have something built into the system to reimburse the wounded and killed and their families.

So do Rape victims get reimbursed? How about burglary victims? Perhaps you can name the pay out for assault and battery victims? How about pick pocket victims?

Just name for us the pay out that Government does for other crimes committed by private citizens?

 

[hunarcy]

So when an innocent person gets shot, there should be no recourse built into the system except to sue the shooter for compensation?

If negligent behavior caused the shooting, then filing criminal charges on the shooter and then civil action would be appropriate...if negligence was involved.

Except you're in the hospital for a few months, the assailant (if caught) is in jail earning $0.00. Likely we're not talking about a hedge fund manager as the perp to start with so good luck getting your cab fare to the hospital in the judgment much less your medical bills, pain, suffering, etc... If you're really unlucky, you're the spouse/parent of someone who goes through all of that then passes away.

Hence the need to have something built into the system to reimburse the wounded and killed and their families.

Nope, people are responsible for their actions and they need to be the ones held responsible. If they can't pay, the taxpayers can make it up the same way you insist they make up everything else. [sarcasm intentional]

 

[candycorn]

If negligent behavior caused the shooting, then filing criminal charges on the shooter and then civil action would be appropriate...if negligence was involved.

Except you're in the hospital for a few months, the assailant (if caught) is in jail earning $0.00. Likely we're not talking about a hedge fund manager as the perp to start with so good luck getting your cab fare to the hospital in the judgment much less your medical bills, pain, suffering, etc... If you're really unlucky, you're the spouse/parent of someone who goes through all of that then passes away.

Hence the need to have something built into the system to reimburse the wounded and killed and their families.

Nope, people are responsible for their actions and they need to be the ones held responsible. If they can't pay, the taxpayers can make it up the same way you insist they make up everything else. [sarcasm intentional]

So again, if you get shot, it's your fault? Is that what you're saying?

 

[OKTexas]

So when an innocent person gets shot, there should be no recourse built into the system except to sue the shooter for compensation?

If negligent behavior caused the shooting, then filing criminal charges on the shooter and then civil action would be appropriate...if negligence was involved.

Except you're in the hospital for a few months, the assailant (if caught) is in jail earning $0.00. Likely we're not talking about a hedge fund manager as the perp to start with so good luck getting your cab fare to the hospital in the judgment much less your medical bills, pain, suffering, etc... If you're really unlucky, you're the spouse/parent of someone who goes through all of that then passes away.

Hence the need to have something built into the system to reimburse the wounded and killed and their families.

You dodged this question earlier in the thread. So you do think society should be liable for the actions of individuals? Now that is established what are the compensation parameters? Do we compensate the victims of drunk or uninsured drivers, or like I mentioned earlier, people who are victims of the knockout game or robbery or should I go on and get really ridiculous. Come on what should people in every freaking category of victim hood receive from society and please be very specific so we can see your prejudiced in advance.

 

[Pogo]

You did an outstanding job with that. No one shooting back once. Well done, you maximized the carnage and then Obama was able to look disgusted on TV and advocate more government power.

^^ There's your whole problem in four words.

Let me guess... you still don't get it.

 

[Pogo]

Did I say it before? Every mass shooter in modern times was a democrat.

This guy?

This one?

This one was out to kill liberals and Democrats...

This one targeted a specific Democrat, which he shot along with 18 others...

This one was stopped on his way to do a shooting for Glenn Beck's agenda and instead had a shootout with police...

This Beckhead too turned his guns on police, killing 3 of them...

It would appear that utterly you're full of shit.
That's nothing new but this one needs some kind of superlative.

The actual truth is that most of these wackjobs go off as a result of their personal problems at work, being attached by IRS, marital arguments, being emasculated and isolated at work and/or school, and/or the weird psychoactive drugs they're taking. Personal stuff, not political.

Retarded scumbag asshole cocksuckers like you who would try to make a cheap political division point on the backs of innocent shooting victims should be made into a reality show where you're forced to eat your own shit on national television.

 

[kaz]

Let me guess... you still don't get it.

A picture would help, can you draw me one with some of your crayons?

 

[P@triot]

i see gun laws are still failing. good work libs

And I see gun culture is still thriving. Good work NRA.

Not sure of course but I would bet that the parents of the kids that bring guns to schools are often overheard decrying the limp-wristed liberals who have no idea how to raise kids.

Yep.... that really sums it up nicely.

 

[P@triot]

Except you're in the hospital for a few months, the assailant (if caught) is in jail earning $0.00. Likely we're not talking about a hedge fund manager as the perp to start with so good luck getting your cab fare to the hospital in the judgment much less your medical bills, pain, suffering, etc... If you're really unlucky, you're the spouse/parent of someone who goes through all of that then passes away.

Hence the need to have something built into the system to reimburse the wounded and killed and their families.

Nope, people are responsible for their actions and they need to be the ones held responsible. If they can't pay, the taxpayers can make it up the same way you insist they make up everything else. [sarcasm intentional]

So again, if you get shot, it's your fault? Is that what you're saying?

It depends CC. In most cases (such as Sandy Hook, Aurora Colorado, etc.) it's the fault of Dumbocrats who create victim zones for the carnage pleasure of societies maniacs.

In some cases, it was the fault of the person who got shot for not taking the necessary precautions. You and you alone are responsible for your security (and therein lies the problem - Dumbocrats refuse to accept personal responsibility). Not society. Not law enforcement. You.

 

[Pogo]

Buttsoiler's vision of how the world works:

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Yeah, good thinking asshole.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

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Yeah, good thinking asshole.

Retard you have nothing so you post idiotic pictures from dumb asses.

 

[P@triot]

Oh, and murder is a felony which carries with it capital punishment (that would be the DEATH PENALTY for you Dumbocrats). If being killed isn't a deterrent, why do you think "federal-type sentences" would be"?!?!

You make it a federal crime (no parole) for any crime involving a gun. You rob a 7-Eleven with a gun, federal crime. You tell the cashier you have a gun but don't brandish it; federal crime. You're gone for the full 10 years or whatever. Murder doesn't have to be involved.

Again, if capital punishment can't deter people from murdering, how do you figure that "federal crime" of 10 years will deter someone from using a gun?

Please tell me this is an act CC. Nobody could be this stupid. Nobody.

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[P@triot]

 

[P@triot]

Oh, and murder is a felony which carries with it capital punishment (that would be the DEATH PENALTY for you Dumbocrats). If being killed isn't a deterrent, why do you think "federal-type sentences" would be"?!?!

You make it a federal crime (no parole) for any crime involving a gun. You rob a 7-Eleven with a gun, federal crime. You tell the cashier you have a gun but don't brandish it; federal crime. You're gone for the full 10 years or whatever. Murder doesn't have to be involved.

Oh - and one more thing CC. By your "logic", all we need to do is make cocaine, heroin, meth, crack, LSD, PCP, rape, assault, domestic violence, battery, and prostitution a "federal crime" and none of them will ever occur again, right?

I mean, sure, the death penalty doesn't stop people from committing murder. But a 10 year sentence? Well hot damn is that going to deter people!

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[Politico]

The death penalty doesn't deter people because they are shielded from it. If you can't figure that out maybe someone will explain it to you.

 

[Bumberclyde]

How does it prove that?

Criminals can easily obtain American made guns. Very easily.

No kidding, this whole thread is based on that. That wasn't the question. How does that guns are generally made by American manufacturers mean that gun laws are too lax? Read the op.

Too many loopholes in the gun laws that criminals can drive a getaway car through.

 

[P@triot]

The death penalty doesn't deter people because they are shielded from it. If you can't figure that out maybe someone will explain it to you.

Then making guns a 10 year offense won't deter people because they are "shielded from it". If you can't figure that out, maybe someone will explain it to you junior...

Oh - and by the way - Mr. McGuire here vehemently disagrees with you (and he knows way more about capital punishment than you do junior). Turns out, he wasn't so "shielded" from it as you claim.

Executed Killer Dennis McGuire Gasped And Snorted For 15 Minutes Under New Lethal Drug Combo