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Justifiable use of deadly force or not?
In the link below is an article with a video that shows a "stand your ground" incident in Clearwater Florida. A women illegally parked in a handicapped spot and got into an argument with a man who confronted her about it. The women's boyfriend, who was in the store at the time, comes out to see the argument and pushes the man to the ground. With the man on the ground he pulls out a gun and aims at the man who assaulted him. The man who committed the assault then backs up. Despite backing away, the man fires his gun anyways hitting the man in the chest. The injured man then runs into the store where he collapses on the ground and dies in front of his five your old son.
My opinion:
Both the women and her boyfriend committed illegal acts which led to the incident. But, I do not feel the man who was assaulted was justified in shooting his attacker. The Attacker had backed off after the gun was pulled. Parking in handicap spot and pushing someone to the ground or both illegal, but punishment for those actions would never warrant the death penalty. Had the attacker continued to assault or move towards the man pushed to the ground, then you might have a case where shooting the gun might be warranted. But that is not what happened. The attacker backed away after the gun was pulled. Then he was shot and killed, dying in front of his five year old son in the store. The man has two other children as well.
I've seen people get pushed to the ground like that in the school yard. Its wrong, you have a right to defend yourself. But in this case, taking another mans life was NOT justified. Call the police and the film of the incident would be enough evidence to punish the attacker in an appropriate manner.
The article and video of the incident are in the link below:
https://nypost.com/2018/07/20/stand...r-in-deadly-fight-over-parking-space-sheriff/
media link from youtube:
Very prejudicial video which has been edited edited to cover up what really happened and obviously one sided.
No, it is not "Very prejudicial." It clearly shows what happened.
A friend of mine, who is a ccw guy, said to me he would have pushed the guy down, too, and he would have watched hoping to see if the guy tried to draw a weapon.
Watch the sillies say, "he pushed me, so I guy to shoot him."
The case is not closed. There is not an arrest yet.
The state will get involved.
The feds will be involved.
A person who carries (you don't) is always aware of what is going on.
If i pushed a guy, I'd be watching his hands.
A friend of mine, who is a ccw guy, said to me he would have pushed the guy down, too, and he would have watched hoping to see if the guy tried to draw a weapon.
Watch the sillies say, "he pushed me, so I guy to shoot him."
seems there are a lot of what if the black had done this or that...what if the woman in the car could have done...rolled the window up and moved the car
Just wondering if you knew who is the instigator.
Verbally assaulting his wife. Do you just stand there watch and play pussy?
Then he got shoved for minding other people’s business. Pulled a gun killing someone just because of handicap parking space. Murderer.
You cant put your hands on people for words. What every kindergartener knows.
You can’t just yelled at my wife or my girlfriend either.
A jerk like that will get more than shoved from me.
You would be committing assault and depending on the ferocity of which would have to expect someone to defend themselves. Lethally if required
Just wondering if you knew who is the instigator.
Verbally assaulting his wife. Do you just stand there watch and play pussy?
Then he got shoved for minding other people’s business. Pulled a gun killing someone just because of handicap parking space. Murderer.
You cant put your hands on people for words. What every kindergartener knows.
You can’t just yelled at my wife or my girlfriend either.
A jerk like that will get more than shoved from me.
You would be committing assault and depending on the ferocity of which would have to expect someone to defend themselves. Lethally if required
Yes. but so many do not get the law of self defense.....in fact it appears most liberals are ignorant of the law o self defense. They seem to think a white guy should never defend himself against some darky with evil intentions.
Just wondering if you knew who is the instigator.
Verbally assaulting his wife. Do you just stand there watch and play pussy?
Then he got shoved for minding other people’s business. Pulled a gun killing someone just because of handicap parking space. Murderer.
You cant put your hands on people for words. What every kindergartener knows.
You can’t just yelled at my wife or my girlfriend either.
A jerk like that will get more than shoved from me.
you don't get to assault someone for parking illegally.
seems justified.
Police said there was no assault and or threats.
No arrest, no fingerprinting no nothing. Free to go
An armed society is a polite society...seems there are a lot of what if the black had done this or that...what if the woman in the car could have done...rolled the window up and moved the car
Yes, important point and I am glad you brought it up. It was in my thinking she could have prevented the death of her b/f if she had been polite to the old guy and as you say offered to move the car whatever it took. The old guy would have gone his way. People need to learn to be very polite to strangers especially. A big unknown factor...a stranger. But it is good always to be polite no matter the situation. People are just too rude for their on good not to mention it puts much stress in our lives that is not needed.
Anything but common sense and justice rule now in Washington.
Certain ccw people want to kill other unarmed 'violent' people, so the gun holder creates a scene where he can be 'assaulted' and thus able to dispatch the victim.
If and when caught in the act by other responsible ccw observers, such shooters should be shown no mercy. Maybe they can shout "don't resist", and when the shooter turns their way with weapon in hand, they can be dispatched.
On a knife edge: Rising violence in LondonYet UK, Australia, South Africa, Canada, etc., are far more safer than the US with its wild west laws.
