Jordan Peterson on Russia

What does victory for the west look like?

Russia punches itself out in this war and cannot replenish its military equipment
We continue providing Ukraine with state of the art equipment
Due to poor morale, weak leadership, inadequate logistics, poor maintenance, the Russian invasion collapses
Russian troops fall back in an uncoordinated withdrawal

The Russian economy collapses
Putin is executed or escapes to exile
Russia either fragments or rebuilds under a new regime
 
A Russian civil war with nukes would not be a good thing. Truth be told I'm surprised Putin has held it together this long.....Remember what happened to the former Yugoslavia when Tito passed?
The first big internal matter dear Uncle P attended to when he came to power nearly 25 years ago was to centralise matters . The Federation was split into Mafia Groups / Organised crime gangs which were brought to heel ruthlessly .
That is how he came to be powerful himself , running the St Petersburg Oblast as his kingdom.
At the same time he started picking off the oligarchs who had raped resources and in total he , Medvedev , and other cronies set about creating His Team.
He was also smart enough to team up with the Church-- at least he created and established that perception

Both enormously clever moves strategically which have so far reaped him and the Federation hugely and why he still dominates the scene with around 75-80% personal poll ratings . Despite his faults .
 
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The first big internal matter dear Uncle P attended to when he came to power nearly 25 years ago was to centralise matters . The Federation was split into Mafia Groups / Organised crime gangs which were brought to heel ruthlessly .
That is how he came to be powerful himself , running the St Petersburg Oblast as his kingdom.
At the same time he started picking off the oligarchs who had raped resources and in total he , Medvedev , and other cronies set about creating His Team.
He was also smart enough to team up with the Church-- at least he created and established that perception

Both enormously clever moves strategically which have so far reaped him and the Federation hugely and why he still dominates the scene with around 75-80% personal poll ratings . Despite his faults .
Oh, like democrats. ;)
 
The first big internal matter dear Uncle P attended to when he came to power nearly 25 years ago was to centralise matters . The Federation was split into Mafia Groups / Organised crime gangs which were brought to heel ruthlessly .
That is how he came to be powerful himself , running the St Petersburg Oblast as his kingdom.
At the same time he started picking off the oligarchs who had raped resources and in total he , Medvedev , and other cronies set about creating His Team.
He was also smart enough to team up with the Church-- at least he created and established that perception

Both enormously clever moves strategically which have so far reaped him and the Federation hugely and why he still dominates the scene with around 75-80% personal poll ratings . Despite his faults .

How will they react to Putin when he loses his big gamble in Ukraine and crashes the Russian economy?
 
How will they react to Putin when he loses his big gamble in Ukraine and crashes the Russian economy?
Russians are a tough people. We are a softer people. All we had to do is let Putin have his sphere of influence within limits. And we could not do it due to the globalists seeing their multi centuries driven goal. Risking a nuclear conflagration for it. Russia does not trust the West. Putin looks at Joe and sees a man who has changed his mind thousands of times on agendas and issues for fifty years who is a quisling without political power and a murderer with it.
 
Russians are a tough people. We are a softer people.

In 1917, those “tough” Russian people grew tired of Russian involvement in WWI and the resulting hardships….they revolted and created the Soviet Union

In 1989, those “tough” Russian people grew tired of the hardships created by a lengthy occupation of Afghanistan and dissolved the USSR

How long will those “tough” Russians tolerate Putin’s Ukrainian catastrophe?

Meanwhile, those “soft” Americans have maintained our country for almost 250 years
 
How will they react to Putin when he loses his big gamble in Ukraine and crashes the Russian economy?

The chances of you ever being able to wind me up are around one million to one .
To get somebody to swallow a bait you need to flavour it with a touch of truth or the real possibility of something occurring .
You forgot both aspects .
To play with the big girls and boys you need ammunition not just hot air sprinkled with hope .
:cool:
 
The chances of you ever being able to wind me up are around one million to one .
To get somebody to swallow a bait you need to flavour it with a touch of truth or the real possibility of something occurring .
You forgot both aspects .
To play with the big girls and boys you need ammunition not just hot air sprinkled with hope .
:cool:
:slap:
No idea what that has to do with what I posted
 

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