Joe Biden would've won..

If the slimy ass dems didn't cheat, Bernie would be POTUS

This. Bernie actually won in multiple hypothetical head to head simulations with Trump. What's interesting is that Trump seems to have some respect for Bernie.
Before giving his support to cankles, he showed integrity. And he was against the Establishment like Trump.
 
If the slimy ass dems didn't cheat, Bernie would be POTUS

Such BS. Only a idealistic ignorant liberal would support him in the end. Bernie represents weakness. He'd have been a lame-duck, and foreign countries outside the liberal decay would have his way with him. The dude was a pipe dream, and no more than a mouth.
He was weak defense wise but he had his heart in the right place. Which is a hell of a lot more than I could say about "strong" war mongers.
 
If the slimy ass dems didn't cheat, Bernie would be POTUS

This. Bernie actually won in multiple hypothetical head to head simulations with Trump. What's interesting is that Trump seems to have some respect for Bernie.
Before giving his support to cankles, he showed integrity. And he was against the Establishment like Trump.
He can have integrity all he likes and sure, he was better than Hillary(Though, that bar is absurdly low), but that doesn't change the content and effects of his policies. I'm glad we dodged that bullet... it would have really BERN'd this country to the ground.
 
Whats done is done, time to moveon.org.

Look on the bright side, with full majorities incompetent and incoherent Republicans will now have to actually GOVERN.

Go get some popcorn, it's going to be a great train-wreck.
 
If the slimy ass dems didn't cheat, Bernie would be POTUS

This. Bernie actually won in multiple hypothetical head to head simulations with Trump. What's interesting is that Trump seems to have some respect for Bernie.
Before giving his support to cankles, he showed integrity. And he was against the Establishment like Trump.

Right. And he resonated with people on a very deep level, something Hillary was never really able to do.
 
If the slimy ass dems didn't cheat, Bernie would be POTUS

This. Bernie actually won in multiple hypothetical head to head simulations with Trump. What's interesting is that Trump seems to have some respect for Bernie.
Before giving his support to cankles, he showed integrity. And he was against the Establishment like Trump.
He can have integrity all he likes and sure, he was better than Hillary(Though, that bar is absurdly low), but that doesn't change the content and effects of his policies. I'm glad we dodged that bullet... it would have really BERN'd this country to the ground.
Oh, im not saying he was the best choice, im js he cared about the country. He was weak, and his policies were not realistic; but, at the time, he had integrity and actually cared. Which is a rarity.
 
and if my aunt had balls she'd be my uncle.

after listening to dems for months laugh openly at how dumb the pubs were for putting a shitty candidate forward that was so shitty that he couldn't beat their own shitty candidate, who was unbelievably shitty, I'm all out of shits to give on who should've run.
 
Whats done is done, tim to moveon.org.

Look on the bright side, with full majorities incompetent and incoherent Republicans will now have to actually GOVERN.

Go get some popcorn, it's going to be a great train-wreck.
Agreed. Please get some good done fast! Tax reform (simplify). Jobs. no one says Trump is 100% perfect choice.......hopefully he will help to improve
 
I don't believe Biden could have won.

But I still think The Democrat Party might have had a good shot with Nutty Old Uncle Bernie. Pity he's too old to be expected to survive long enough for them to rectify that mistake.....

I don't either but I think he would have been a much better choice then Hillary.

He's been VP for eight years and he way better qualified than Hillary ever will be.
 
Good news for Ol' Joe... After watching Kaine debate, I grew some respect for joe.. Kaine is fucking insane
 
I didn't want Hillary . I wanted joe . Everyone laughed at that .

He would've beat the Don . Hillary is too wooden and has all that baggage .
No Timmy
Nobody could beat the GOP but Clinton. And nobody could have beaten Clinton without Trump beating the liberal media. Had he campaigned that hard and dirty on behalf of Cruz or another nominee, someone else would be President right now. Had any other GOP tried to run, without that reckless shameless gall to beat the media at their own games of glorifying celebrities and glamorizing crisis, they would have lost to Clinton's long history of experience support and corporate legal and party connections.

She won the popular vote which is more than any other Candidate could have done.

Sanders is closed to representing the progressive grassroots left and he also cannot play the media game and would have lost.

Trump played it by taking risks and moving upon so far outside the bounds that it escaped the left right framework and alienated as many people on both sides.

Clinton played the game by backing off and playing safe. Orchestrate and spin the positive things and skirt anything negative. Use the legal system to hide behind where you get the benefit of the doubt.

Trump apologized when caught making embarrassing inexcusable remarks. He flaunts his flaws that he knows scares people, while Clinton hides hers which scares people even more.

I hope Trump listens to all his peers and fellow citizens, embraces and creates jobs for Sanders and Cruz, Johnson and Stein, Carsons and Clinton to serve the country in teams that can address all the issues we face as a nation.

We all can win that way. If we quit listening to the media and start listening to each other!
 
Whats done is done, tim to moveon.org.

Look on the bright side, with full majorities incompetent and incoherent Republicans will now have to actually GOVERN.

Go get some popcorn, it's going to be a great train-wreck.
Agreed. Please get some good done fast! Tax reform (simplify). Jobs. no one says Trump is 100% perfect choice.......hopefully he will help to improve

Congratulations sir, you win understatement of the year award.

Enjoy the "improvement"
 
If the slimy ass dems didn't cheat, Bernie would be POTUS

This. Bernie actually won in multiple hypothetical head to head simulations with Trump. What's interesting is that Trump seems to have some respect for Bernie.
Before giving his support to cankles, he showed integrity. And he was against the Establishment like Trump.
Dear SYTFE and TNHarley
No, Sanders can not have won, being seen as a socialist or communist handing out gimmies like college tuition or drug legalization to win the collage crowd without any means of paying for health care and handouts they consider govt duty.

He could win against a weak GOP candidate, but he'd get smashed as a free loading socialist or communist,
once that labeled is attached.

That approach to govt is most outright rejected, it violates the very beliefs of Constitutionalists in limited govt, and never depending on govt so that people keep the leverage in checking govt instead of being told what to do and how to vote if they want to keep their benefits flowing through govt.

The right-wing won't allow Sanders to get elected imposing that agenda on the nation; and the only reason Obama got elected on that platform is the people rallying for change defied the media and odds as we saw Trump pull off that defied the odds and media predictions as well. Normally that would not, unless you pull media stunts that Trump did to remain present in the public eye, which I don't see Sanders or anyone else capable of maintaining as Trump did on a constant basis.

The people wouldn't rally around Sanders because he can't play the media as Clinton and Trump did.

Sanders does not have the corporate and legal connections that Clinton has that control the politics of office and elections.

If you don't get it yet, the system is biased toward big money that can afford to run million dollar campaigns.

Sanders would have to sell out the grassroots principles of build it yourself, in order to run, and thus contradicts his very platform! Both Obama and Clinton are willing to play the lies and say they're for the grassroots people when they're already bought and sold.

So unless you want more liars running for office, you can't say you want the grassroots change and have Soros and corporate interest Democrats padding each other's campaigns.
 
If the slimy ass dems didn't cheat, Bernie would be POTUS

This. Bernie actually won in multiple hypothetical head to head simulations with Trump. What's interesting is that Trump seems to have some respect for Bernie.

Bernies not a dem and Dons not a Repub . They wanted to use the parties infrastructure to further their campaigns.
 
If the slimy ass dems didn't cheat, Bernie would be POTUS

This. Bernie actually won in multiple hypothetical head to head simulations with Trump. What's interesting is that Trump seems to have some respect for Bernie.

Bernies not a dem and Dons not a Repub . They wanted to use the parties infrastructure to further their campaigns.

You could say that. All I'm saying is that Bernie would've won, and Hillary and her team owe him an apology for screwing him over.
 
This. Bernie actually won in multiple hypothetical head to head simulations with Trump. What's interesting is that Trump seems to have some respect for Bernie.

Yes, but didn't they say the same thing about Hillary?

The pollsters are scratching their heads now that they lost the confidence of the public. Right up to the end they were saying that Trump didn't have the ability to get to 270.

I don't trust polls--never have. They are only there for our entertainment and to provide hope for some people.
 
I don't believe Biden could have won.

But I still think The Democrat Party might have had a good shot with Nutty Old Uncle Bernie. Pity he's too old to be expected to survive long enough for them to rectify that mistake.....

I don't think Biden would have gotten past the primaries if he ran.
 

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