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Jewish Supremacy From the Jordan River to the Sea

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Where did that say Palestine was ever a state?
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POOR POOR Muslim Supremacists, you only have 99% of the Middle East, and damnit, you want IT ALL... ahoha snackbar
Leading human rights group calls Israel an 'apartheid' state

"B’Tselem argues that by dividing up the territories and using different means of control, Israel masks the underlying reality — that roughly 7 million Jews and 7 million Palestinians live under a single system with vastly unequal rights.

"'We are not saying that the degree of discrimination that a Palestinian has to endure is the same if one is a citizen of the state of Israel or if one is besieged in Gaza,' El-Ad said. 'The point is that there isn’t a single square inch between the river and the sea in which a Palestinian and a Jew are equal.'"
 
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They're not.

Dumbass.
Ignorance is not a substitute for knowledge.:omg:

Leading human rights group calls Israel an 'apartheid' state

"Israel’s harshest critics have used the term 'apartheid' for decades, evoking the system of white rule and racial segregation in South Africa that was brought to an end in 1994.

"The International Criminal Court defines apartheid as an 'institutionalized regime of systematic oppression and domination by one racial group.'

"'There is no country in the world that is clearer in its apartheid policies than Israel,' said Nabil Shaath, a senior adviser to Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas. 'It is a state based on racist decisions aimed at confiscating land, expelling indigenous people, demolishing homes and establishing settlements.'"
 

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RE: Jewish Supremacy From the Jordan River to the Sea
SUBTOPIC: Protection of Civilian Persons in Time of War
⁜→ georgephillip, daveman, GLASNOST, et al,

BLUF: The hits just keep on coming. I've seen this several times. If you look at the poster, it is dated November 1977.

What's your username over at Stormfront?
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(The GROUND TRUTH)

A/RES/3379 (XXX) Zionism is a form of racism and racial discrimination 10 November 1975 (last Line in the Resolution)

A/RES/46/86. Elimination of racism and racial discrimination: 16 December 1991
Decides to revoke the determination contained in its resolution 3379 (XXX) Database 'UNISPAL', View 'Documents by\symbol', Document 'Elimination of all forms of racial discrimination -  GA resolution' of 10 November 1975 (the only line in the Resolution)

(COMMENT)

I know that some of you have heard this many many times. Israelis racist or that Zionism is racist.

The determination was made and originally based on the 1975 Resolution which was passed immediately after the United States recognized the Egypt-Israel Agreement, initialed on 1 September 1975, entailing the withdrawal from vital areas in Sinai.


( ∑ )

This is a very effective way to apply the deceptive technique. It is a form of fallacy where the information is known in the public record to be inaccurate. Misinformation is useful to pass false and misleading information. To knowing pass on unsound and invalid information goes to the character of the advocate. This is a very familiar tactic by the anti-Israeli propagandist. (Ω)

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But what is important here is to understand that its application (from the River to the Sea) in the context of "apartheid" is pure propaganda. The application is targeting those readers who do not known any better and think, just because Israel has a border that separates the Israelis from the Arab Palestinians of the West Bank and Gaza Strip, it must be "apartheid." Intellectually it is a stupid contention. Every country in the world has its borders. And each of those countries has its rules on how to legally enter the country.
"From the River to the sea" is an accurate description of all the land under the legal (and illegal) control of the Jewish state.

For more than a century and particularly since 1948 the Jews of Israel have been stealing the homes, businesses, farms, factories, and bank accounts of non-Jews living between the River and the sea.

If that isn't apartheid, what is it?

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Leading human rights group calls Israel an 'apartheid' state

"JERUSALEM (AP) — A leading Israeli human rights group has begun describing both Israel and its control of the Palestinian territories as a single “apartheid” regime, using an explosive term that the country’s leaders and their supporters vehemently reject.

"In a report released Tuesday, B’Tselem says that while Palestinians live under different forms of Israeli control in the occupied West Bank, blockaded Gaza, annexed east Jerusalem and within Israel itself, they have fewer rights than Jews in the entire area between the Mediterranean Sea and the Jordan River."

"'One of the key points in our analysis is that this is a single geopolitical area ruled by one government,' said B’Tselem director Hagai El-Ad. 'This is not democracy plus occupation. This is apartheid between the river and the sea.”'"
The West Bank has always been part of ancient Israel and judea . The Palestinians need to vacate and then we can have peace
This is the final area that Israel is missing
 

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RE: Jewish Supremacy From the Jordan River to the Sea
SUBTOPIC: Forced Separation (Displacement)
⁜→ Quasar44, et al,

BLUF: This kind of thought is "Apartheid-LIKE" in character. This Forced Separation could be the hypernym of Apartheid-Like Displacement. This is already a built-in dilemma.

The West Bank has always been part of ancient Israel and judea . The Palestinians need to vacate and then we can have peace
This is the final area that Israel is missing
(COMMENT)

In International Humanitarian Law (IHL) this is:

RULE #24: The idea of the forced displacement of civilian persons can be considered an exception to "Apartheid-like" activity WHEN it is in connection with the objectives is set forth in Article 58(a) of Additional Protocol I. (In fact, this is a matter of selective enforcement in the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict particular to the Gaza Strip. The International Community and the International Criminal Court (ICC) does not want to address.) The exception is relevant only when attempting to implement "precautions against the effects of attacks."

It would be "wrong"
(Politically and IHL wise) to begin (for domestic convenience) the displacement action/program with the intention of removing the protected persons from "ancient Israel and Judea" for a prolonged period of time. The habitual resident → lawfully within the territory of a State shall have the right to choose a residence or maintain a current domicile.

RULE #24, executed with the proper intent, is NOT an "apartheid" issue. However, what you are suggesting is the forced displacement of the persons concerned by expulsion or other coercive acts, → which is a violation of Article 7(1d) • Crimes Against Humanity •
Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court (ICC). And while I think the ICC has no jurisdiction, once a displaced person steps over a demarcation, it becomes enough for the prosecutor to initiate a preliminary investigation. And that will draw even stronger adverse media attention. AND, if the displaced persons cross into Egypt or Jordan, it may be ground to claim a treaty violation.

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RE: Jewish Supremacy From the Jordan River to the Sea
SUBTOPIC: Political Implication
⁜→ georgephillip, P F Tinmore, et al,

PREFACE: I apologize for not getting back sooner. I became entangled with a small family crisis.

BLUF: The phrase "From the Jordan River to the Sea" represents ≈ 23% of the total territory initially rendered to the British under the Mandate for Palestine. The Arab Palestinians attach some significance to this 23% as if it were somehow unique to them. Our friend, PF Tinmore is another who places some special significance, as he uses the demarcation as the original boundary of what he considers
(by default) a post-War new state. Following PF Tinmore's line of thought would render Israel a political subdivision of the new State of Palestine.

"From the River to the sea" is an accurate description of all the land under the legal (and illegal) control of the Jewish state.
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Any territory under Israeli control between the Jordan River and the Mediterranean is "legally controlled territory." It is either territory that Israel holds sovereign by self-determination, or it is territory coming under Israeli control by virtue of the fact that Jordan cut all administrative and legal ties to the West Bank in July 1988. Jordan had previously (Arpil 1950) expanded the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan into the West Bank in a move they referred to as the "Unification of the Two Banks."

The premise is that
persons concerned having assumed Jordanian Citizenship in the territory affected by the abandonment by Jordan are presumed to acquire the nationality of the successor State on the date in which Jordan cut all administrative and legal ties.

In 1988, there was no Convention on the "Nationality of natural persons in relation to the succession of States." That did not come about until A/RES/55/153 12 Dec 2000 (Annex). The question became, who/what becomes the
State which has replaces Jordan on the occurrence of abandonment in the case of a succession of States. Israel was holding the Article 43 HR authority as the legitimate power having in fact passed into the hands of the occupant the measures in his power to restore, and ensure, as far as possible, public order and safety.

For more than a century and particularly since 1948 the Jews of Israel have been stealing the homes, businesses, farms, factories, and bank accounts of non-Jews living between the River and the sea.
If that isn't apartheid, what is it?
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The accusation of "theft" or "misappropriation" is a completely separate issue from that of "apartheid." Your logic is
the insertion of a misleading premise and distraction from a relevant question.

◈ On the matter concerning accusations of "theft" or "misappropriation:"
✦ I have not seen where the "non-Jews living between the River and the sea" had their disputes through negotiation, inquiry, mediation, conciliation, arbitration, judicial settlement, regional agencies, or other peaceful means of their choice.
✦ I have not seen where any common "dispute resolution process" exercised.
◈ On the matter concerning accusations of "apartheid:"​
✦ I do not see where is a dispute between one racial group over any other racial group intention of maintaining that regime. The conflict is subject to such boundary and populations a setforth:
✧ Both parties to the Israeli-Palestinian Dispute have the duty to refrain from the threat or use of force to violate the existing international boundaries of another State or as a means of solving international disputes, including territorial disputes and problems concerning frontiers of States.​
✧ Both parties to the Israeli-Palestinian Dispute has the duty to refrain from the threat or use of force to violate international lines of demarcation, such as armistice lines, established by or pursuant to an international agreement to which it is a party or which it is otherwise bound to respect. Nothing in the foregoing shall be construed as prejudicing the positions of the parties concerned with regard to the status and effects of such lines under their special regimes or as affecting their temporary character.​
✧ The Jordanian authority of the legitimate power having passed into the hands of Israel, the latter shall take all the measures in his power to restore, and ensure, as far as possible, public order and safety, while respecting, unless absolutely prevented, the laws in force in the country.​
✧ The Arab-Palestinians of the West Bank who commit an offense which is solely intended to harm the Occupying Power (The Israelis), cause damage to the property of the occupying forces or administration, or the other Israeli installations, shall be liable to internment provided the duration of such internment or imprisonment is proportionate to the offense committed. In cases where the Arab-Palestinians of the West Bank are found guilty of espionage, serious acts of sabotage against the military installations of the Occupying Power, or of intentional offenses which have caused the death of one or more persons, such offenses were punishable by death under the law of the occupied territory in force before the occupation began.​
Civilians’ Protection from Attack
• The unlawful and intentional use of explosives and other lethal devices in, into, or against various defined public places with intent to kill or cause serious bodily injury, or with intent to cause extensive destruction of the public place.​
• Acts or threats of violence the primary purpose of which is to spread terror among the civilian population are prohibited.​
• Civilians are immune from direct attack from both parties to the Israeli-Palestinian dispute.​

"The crime of apartheid" means inhumane acts committed in the context of an institutionalized regime of systematic oppression and domination by one racial group over any other racial group or groups and committed with the intention of maintaining that regime; (Rome Statute • International Criminal Court)

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I still see many green dots on your map
A century ago there were ten times as many non-Jews as Jews living in Palestine.
By 1948 the ratio had shrunk to 2:1.
Many Jews didn't bother to hide their plan to transform Palestine into a Jewish majority state.
Today there are roughly equal numbers of Jews and non-Jews living there, and laws written by a for Jews control every square inch between the River and the sea.
 
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srael relations with Egypt are better then ever. They signed peace deals with UAE, Morocco, Sudan, Bahrain and Kosovo. They have pretty good relations with Saudi Arabia. Trade relations with Turkey are doing great and they are doing better diplomatically. Once Saudi Arabia makes it official the flood gates will open.
Trump lost, remember?
The floodgates of global disgust will open to crucify rich authoritarian Jews whos only allies are authoritarian gangsters in Egypt, Morocco, Sudan, etc, etc...do you see a pattern here?
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