Japanese Prime Minister Assassinated

[marvin martian]

So the dude got around it by making his own.

People will find a way. Even your idea of gunning for the manufacturers here to get rid of guns would just result in underground machine shops turning them out much like we have underground chemistry labs turning out drugs.

The government's war on guns will go exactly like their war on drugs.

 

[martybegan]

The government's war on guns will go exactly like their war on drugs.

The true difference between Japan and the US is people in Japan don't want to own guns, where many people in the US want to.

 

[JoeB131]

There were laws in place to prevent the first guy from getting guns, and the government didn't do what it was supposed to do.

No, it means the laws are inadequate.

Meanwhile your side thinks making me pay $500 bucks and wait 3-6 months just to keep a fucking revolver in my apartment is 'reasonable"

That actually sounds - kind of reasonable, if that $500 is going to a background investigation. It's the kind of investigation an employer would do before hiring you or a bank would do before giving you a loan.

Compare that to Illinois, where all you need for a FOID card is a $10.00 application fee and you get it in 30 days.

What kind of background investigation are they going to do for $10.00?


Now, I point this out because Crimo, the Highland Park shooter, had two previous incidents where the police were called up to his house for domestic disturbances. HPPD and the Illinois State Police are pointing the fingers at each other about how this slipped through the crack, but he was still able to get his FOID card after his father co-signed it because of his age.

 

[JoeB131]

The true difference between Japan and the US is people in Japan don't want to own guns, where many people in the US want to.

More Americans want be able to go to a parade without having to worry about a maniac shooting them.

 

[martybegan]

No, it means the laws are inadequate.



That actually sounds - kind of reasonable, if that $500 is going to a background investigation. It's the kind of investigation an employer would do before hiring you or a bank would do before giving you a loan.

Compare that to Illinois, where all you need for a FOID card is a $10.00 application fee and you get it in 30 days.

What kind of background investigation are they going to do for $10.00?


Now, I point this out because Crimo, the Highland Park shooter, had two previous incidents where the police were called up to his house for domestic disturbances. HPPD and the Illinois State Police are pointing the fingers at each other about how this slipped through the crack, but he was still able to get his FOID card after his father co-signed it because of his age.

It is completely unreasonable. Howabout a $500 fee to get an abortion?

 

[martybegan]

More Americans want be able to go to a parade without having to worry about a maniac shooting them.

Or driving into them with a vehicle.

Ban Cars!

 

[marvin martian]

The true difference between Japan and the US is people in Japan don't want to own guns, where many people in the US want to.

Self-defense is a civil right that is unfortunately not constitutionally guaranteed in Japan, whereas here it is. The Japanese people have been fortunate that their government considers personal honor a virtue, and have not gone psycho totalitarian on them in recent history. Our politicians, sadly, are not so restrained (as we've seen with the Biden regime), and would happily oppress the citizenry even more if the threat of armed resistance were not present.

 

[martybegan]

Self-defense is a civil right that is unfortunately not constitutionally guaranteed in Japan, whereas here it is. The Japanese people have been fortunate that their government considers personal honor a virtue, and have not gone psycho totalitarian on them in recent history. Our politicians, sadly, are not so restrained (as we've seen with the Biden regime), and would happily oppress the citizenry even more if the threat of armed resistance were not present.

That and their own criminal element seems to stick to organized crime, and not the general street crime and property crime we see in the US.

 

[JoeB131]

It is completely unreasonable. Howabout a $500 fee to get an abortion?

It already costs about $500 to get an abortion. Also, what would they need to check for. Yup, there's a fetus up her who-ha. Yup, she wants it out.

No, it really isn't unreasonable if your goal is to keep guns out of the wrong hands.

When I got my home loan, they checked all my finances. Even though it was the same bank I had been doing business with for the last 20 years...Even though I had an 803 credit score. Why? Due Diligence.

When I applied for my last job, they interviewed my previous coworkers, checked my credit, checked with my former employers, even checked my social media feed. Why? Due Diligence!

 

[JoeB131]

Self-defense is a civil right that is unfortunately not constitutionally guaranteed in Japan, whereas here it is. The Japanese people have been fortunate that their government considers personal honor a virtue, and have not gone psycho totalitarian on them in recent history. Our politicians, sadly, are not so restrained (as we've seen with the Biden regime), and would happily oppress the citizenry even more if the threat of armed resistance were not present.

Actually, the Japanese have had some pretty bad government since WWII. The aforementioned grandfather of Abe was notoriously corrupt.

 

[martybegan]

It already costs about $500 to get an abortion. Also, what would they need to check for. Yup, there's a fetus up her who-ha. Yup, she wants it out.

No, it really isn't unreasonable if your goal is to keep guns out of the wrong hands.

When I got my home loan, they checked all my finances. Even though it was the same bank I had been doing business with for the last 20 years...Even though I had an 803 credit score. Why? Due Diligence.

When I applied for my last job, they interviewed my previous coworkers, checked my credit, checked with my former employers, even checked my social media feed. Why? Due Diligence!

That's a $500 fee above the cost of the gun.

Not an assault rifle, a fucking revolver.

That is infringement.

 

[JoeB131]

That's a $500 fee above the cost of the gun.

Not an assault rifle, a fucking revolver.

That is infringement.

Again, depends on what it's going for. If they are doing a thorough background check, then it's NOT an infringement... it's due diligence.

 

[martybegan]

Again, depends on what it's going for. If they are doing a thorough background check, then it's NOT an infringement... it's due diligence.

LOL, like the NYPD isn't doing jack shit. This just to make the process as long and as expensive as possible.

For a revolver. that you can't take out of your home or apartment.

Just look at the new CCW law they passed that violates the 2nd AND 1st amendments, and ignores the recent Supreme Court ruling.

 

[there4eyeM]

It would seem that those who really know firearms realize how absolutely fundamental firearm safety is. Requiring at least that should be something that 2A advocates promote. If not at least something in that vein, fellow citizens will one day hand you more than you like.

 

[Ridgerunner]

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[Esdraelon]

In a fucking heartbeat.

"HAVING COME... TAKE" Consider it an open invitation.

I listen to loud mouths all the time who advocate for steps that will INEVITABLY lead to confiscation at some point. They do so because they understand that the job will fall to better men and women than THEY. The problem with that in America is that the sheer numbers and geographic dispersal of those weapons make a war GUARANTEED before the government could succeed. If you folks are serious about wanting to stop say... school slaughters, stop bitching and moaning and demanding "gun control" and START hardening security where our children are compelled to be. Do THAT and those on the conservative side might just take you seriously enough to compromise a bit more. Until then, GFY.

 

[JoeB131]

I listen to loud mouths all the time who advocate for steps that will INEVITABLY lead to confiscation at some point. They do so because they understand that the job will fall to better men and women than THEY. The problem with that in America is that the sheer numbers and geographic dispersal of those weapons make a war GUARANTEED before the government could succeed. If you folks are serious about wanting to stop say... school slaughters, stop bitching and moaning and demanding "gun control" and START hardening security where our children are compelled to be. Do THAT and those on the conservative side might just take you seriously enough to compromise a bit more. Until then, GFY.

The first problem is that you think even the most sensible gun law will lead to confiscation.

The reality is, when you start establishing a mental health standard for gun ownership, you inevitably get to the point where most gun fetishists would probably be eliminated from gun ownership.

As I often say, the best argument for gun control is a five minute talk with a gun nut.

 

[Ringo]

The pathetic job of Japanese bodyguards. The terrorist clearly missed the first shot...

 

[Ringo]

Many people are surprised by the video that appeared on the web in which the Chinese celebrate the death of former Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe at a disco.

Of course, it is unacceptable and immoral to rejoice in the death of a person.

However, let's figure out why China reacted to the murder of Abe in this way. In a nutshell: "historical memory". In more detail, Shinzo Abe was perceived in China as a dangerous historical revisionist, and very deservedly so.

Let's start with the fact that Shinzo Abe is the grandson of Kishi Nobusuke, who during World War II oversaw... the occupation of Manchuria, where he was known as the "Manchurian Monster". Manchuria, in case anyone forgot, is the Northeast of China. On the territory of China, the Japanese did such atrocities, about which it is impossible to talk calmly. It was a real Holocaust, only in the East. There is vivisection (the separation of the bodies of living people without anesthesia), and the cutting of people with swords as entertainment, including women and children, and biological experiments, and mass rapes and executions. Tens of millions of people became victims of the Japanese genocide in China, Korea and Southeast Asian countries. Hundreds of thousands of women were driven into sexual slavery.

The Japanese have not yet officially apologized to China and other Asian countries for their crimes, occupation and genocide.

Shinzo Abe's grandfather was a Class A war criminal. But he served only three years in prison, and then was released by the Americans and became Prime Minister of Japan. He took an active part in the creation of the right-wing conservative Liberal Democratic Party of Japan, which has remained in power since its creation to the present (with two short breaks of a couple of years). That is, Japan, in fact, is still a one-party state, despite all the elections and "democratic" procedures.

Shinzo Abe not only did not apologize for his grandfather, but regularly visited the Yasukuni Shrine, where 13 Japanese Class A war criminals are buried, and bowed to the "heroes" who fought for "great Japan." Moreover, Abe, like many of his supporters, was a member of the Shinto sect (The Religious Cult Secretly Running Japan ) "Nippon kaigi", which became known not so long ago. Shintoism is a traditional Japanese religion that, among other things, deifies the emperor. The Nippon Kaigi sect stands for the abolition of the post-war constitution of Japan, which restricts the development of the army, for the abolition of equal rights for women, for the expulsion of all visitors, for the rejection of laws to protect human rights. Members of this sect deny the genocide committed in China. Abe's supporters, to whom he handed out high positions, were also members of this sect and were seen in such innocent pranks as smiling photos together (Neo-Nazi photos pose headache for Shinzo Abe ) with the leader of the neo-Nazi National Socialist Workers' Party of Japan (yes, there is one) Kazunari Yamada.

Naturally, Abe took a sharply anti—Chinese position - from support for Taiwan to the desire to revise the constitution and ensure the construction of the army, support for any US military initiatives in Asia. Yes, Abe tried to negotiate with Russia on the islands (based on our transfer of the islands to Japan, of course), but as he wrote in his telegram channel, Abe's goal was to drive a wedge into friendly relations between Russia and China.

Now imagine how russians would react, for example, to the death of the German Chancellor, the grandson of, say, Himmler, who would go to salute nazi criminals, would belong to a sect dreaming that the Reich would rise again, would not recognize victims among the soviet population and would do everything possible to isolate Russia and destroy its friendly ties with other countries? That's about what the Chinese feel about Abe.

 

[JoeB131]

Many people are surprised by the video that appeared on the web in which the Chinese celebrate the death of former Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe at a disco.

Of course, it is unacceptable and immoral to rejoice in the death of a person.

However, let's figure out why China reacted to the murder of Abe in this way. In a nutshell: "historical memory". In more detail, Shinzo Abe was perceived in China as a dangerous historical revisionist, and very deservedly so.

Let's start with the fact that Shinzo Abe is the grandson of Kishi Nobusuke, who during World War II oversaw... the occupation of Manchuria, where he was known as the "Manchurian Monster". Manchuria, in case anyone forgot, is the Northeast of China. On the territory of China, the Japanese did such atrocities, about which it is impossible to talk calmly. It was a real Holocaust, only in the East. There is vivisection (the separation of the bodies of living people without anesthesia), and the cutting of people with swords as entertainment, including women and children, and biological experiments, and mass rapes and executions. Tens of millions of people became victims of the Japanese genocide in China, Korea and Southeast Asian countries. Hundreds of thousands of women were driven into sexual slavery.

The Japanese have not yet officially apologized to China and other Asian countries for their crimes, occupation and genocide.

Shinzo Abe's grandfather was a Class A war criminal. But he served only three years in prison, and then was released by the Americans and became Prime Minister of Japan. He took an active part in the creation of the right-wing conservative Liberal Democratic Party of Japan, which has remained in power since its creation to the present (with two short breaks of a couple of years). That is, Japan, in fact, is still a one-party state, despite all the elections and "democratic" procedures.

Shinzo Abe not only did not apologize for his grandfather, but regularly visited the Yasukuni Shrine, where 13 Japanese Class A war criminals are buried, and bowed to the "heroes" who fought for "great Japan." Moreover, Abe, like many of his supporters, was a member of the Shinto sect (The Religious Cult Secretly Running Japan ) "Nippon kaigi", which became known not so long ago. Shintoism is a traditional Japanese religion that, among other things, deifies the emperor. The Nippon Kaigi sect stands for the abolition of the post-war constitution of Japan, which restricts the development of the army, for the abolition of equal rights for women, for the expulsion of all visitors, for the rejection of laws to protect human rights. Members of this sect deny the genocide committed in China. Abe's supporters, to whom he handed out high positions, were also members of this sect and were seen in such innocent pranks as smiling photos together (Neo-Nazi photos pose headache for Shinzo Abe ) with the leader of the neo-Nazi National Socialist Workers' Party of Japan (yes, there is one) Kazunari Yamada.

Naturally, Abe took a sharply anti—Chinese position - from support for Taiwan to the desire to revise the constitution and ensure the construction of the army, support for any US military initiatives in Asia. Yes, Abe tried to negotiate with Russia on the islands (based on our transfer of the islands to Japan, of course), but as he wrote in his telegram channel, Abe's goal was to drive a wedge into friendly relations between Russia and China.

Now imagine how russians would react, for example, to the death of the German Chancellor, the grandson of, say, Himmler, who would go to salute nazi criminals, would belong to a sect dreaming that the Reich would rise again, would not recognize victims among the soviet population and would do everything possible to isolate Russia and destroy its friendly ties with other countries? That's about what the Chinese feel about Abe.

Wow, how is a Russian Troll like a broken clock... They are both right twice a day.

A lot to unpack here, and I kind of agree with a lot of it. Unlike the Germans, who just can't stop apologizing for what they did during the war, the Japanese have never really owned up to their atrocities. So you can imagine, Abe being one of the worst revisionists, was received cooly in the rest of Asia.

All that said, Abe had kind of a point. If you are bordering a hostile Russia and an emergent China, would you want to count on America to protect your ass? I wouldn't. Given how we have thrown Taiwan, the Shah, South Vietnam, the Afghan Government, Ferdinand Marcos, etc. under the bus for political expediency,